Are you a LOST fan? What did you think of last night's big finale?

Relax, it was just a TV show. It was better than the endings for The Sopranos and Seinfeld, but worse than 6 Feet Under which was awesome.

My impression with Kate and Jacob was that she was crossed out because Jacob did not want to force her into the role of guardian, now that she was a mother. However, she could still choose to give that up herself, if she wanted to.

Regarding the light--Jack's father made the comment that those were the people Jack spent the most important part of his life with. Boone and Shannon both had pretty important character arcs during their time on the island, particularly in relation to other characters. Walt and Michael, less so--presumably, there were other connections in their lives that were more important.

Jacob died, too. So did his mother, and Jack. I don't think that being the guardian of the island makes one immortal--why would they need replacements if it did? But it certainly seems to give one a vastly extended life. Just a few musings on some of these....

I know that's why Jacob crossed her off and then let her back in, but that whole thing invalidates the numbers. Her number should have been part of the sequence- actually, only Jack, Kate, Sayer and Hurley should have been numbers since they were the only ones to survive till the end and sit with Jacob.

I'm going to have to disagree on Walt and Michael- they were pretty important. Plus, Walt even appeared in ghost form on the Island, so he must have some connection to it.

And I did not mean imortal like a God, I meant imortal like a vampire- can be killed, but never ages. I don't think Hurley got to get that longevity, because the light was out when he drank the water.

Matthew Fox? Sorry man, but Matthew Fox could never even begin to portray the intense badassness of Commander Shepard

Aw, c'mon... the jump punch...

lol no... i was makin a joke :D

They just pushed a lot of them farther back since the light at the Heart of the Island was what was making the extreme electro-magentism and responsible for most of the other strange effects.

But that leaves the question of where that light came from and how did those ruins get built around it.

That's why they need a movie to tie all the loose ends up

Right but I'm referring to questions from earlier on in the series. For example, why are there Egyptian heiroglyphics all over the island? Or, who exactly was the Asian guy who tried to kill Sayid, how did he reach the island, and why was he the only thing keeping the Man in Black from entering the temple?

Seriously, questions like these have been bothering me for awhile, and finally, just when I think I'm about to get some answers, the writers just up and end the story. Not that the ending was bad, I thought it was a pretty cool twist in all honesty, but I was expecting a bit more.

It's the new Current! Sadly, get used to it.

It's more that I criticize the literary aspects to it, the religious or spiritual aspect wouldn't make any difference to that if they had been more attached to a sufficent plot conclusion

Maybe we're just coming at this from different perspectives, but the thing I liked about the end of Lost was that God *didn't* fix everything.

What happened on the island happened because of the choices of the people. Jacob may have been a guardian/demi-god figure, but he wasn't completely divine. It was the choices the characters made, with some element of fate thrown in. The ending, to me at least, also didn't read as heaven (at least not in the eternal resting place, frolicking about in the clouds with angels sense) as much as a group of souls moving onto the next incarnation and cycle. They were meant to find each other, and they did.

Ancient story-telling ending:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina

Even that article points out the flaws in that method.

"The deus ex machina is often considered to be a poor storytelling technique by critics because it undermines the story's internal logic, Nietzsche argues that the deus ex machina creates a false sense of consolation that ought not to be sought in phenomena and this denigration of the plot device has prevailed in critical opinion"

They way I see an ending to a series like Lost is that unfinished business should come back to bite the characters. The decisions they made in the past should have meaning in the present. If you throw in some divine intervention at the very end, out of nowhere, it just seemed to kill the momentum of the whole series.

Or, maybe the first draft shouldn't be the final one . . .

I don't see this at all.

There was no God with a capital "G" in Lost. Jacob and MIB were god-like magical beings, but ones that were not all-powerful, all-knowing, or even immortal. And they did not fix everything, they are the ones who screwed everything up.

It took humans, Jack, Desmond and Hurley, to fix things.

They even left the afterlife concept (after the church) open- it might be heaven, it might be reincarnation, it might be non-existance. If it's reincarnation, perhaps there will not be "another group" called- just them again, in new lives!

That's true since they did that with Stargate: The Ark of Truth. They'll probably do that with Lost too

I did like the fight scene on the edge of the cliff, it did remind me a lot of the fight at the end of Matrix: Revolutions though probably for the same reason that it was yin/yang duking it out.

Somewhat cheap and sort of cheesy might be accurate because having it connected only to Jack's last moments is almost as bad as the alternate ending of Bob Newhart waking up in bed with Kate that they showed on Jimmy Kimmel

The fight scene I was referring to was the fight between Olivia and Fauxlivia from Fringe. However, I will begrudgingly admit I liked the fight between Jack and Locke. Honestly, if they'd left the Sideway bullshit outta the equation, the show would have ended perfectly, Jack beats Locke, Jack sacrifices himself to save the day, Hurley takes over. No Sideways was even required.

Good point since it would've been a lot stronger show without it since it only had a very tenuous connection to the rest

As onemalefla mentioned they could've left the Flash Sideways stuff for the movie like they did the defeat of the Priors for the Ark of Truth. That way they could've gone into more of the ways it was tied into the rest of the story.

They don't plan on making a movie, at least not the showrunners. They decided they wanted to end it definitively,I guess by saying everyone's dead. Yep. That's an ending.

Again, the Sideways-verse was a bizarre deus ex machina to begin with, a failsafe in case people were disappointed with the direction the show was taking. I personally choose to forget the flash-Sideways and just pretend that the show ended with Jack saving the world and Hurley taking over, and the others getting off the island alright. Boom. Satisfying ending.

They didn't "plan" on making 2 Sex and the City movies either but that's the way it worked out. They can always change their "decision" for the right incentive.

Yeah...money. That's all they wanted. Fuck Lost, I'll stick with Fringe.

Couldn't you argue that Aaron being raised by Kate helped contribute to Claire's mental instability? In turn, she sided with the Man in Black and helped contribute to the death of everyone at the temple. Seems like the omen rang true.

That's reaching to make a hypothesis fit since that wasn't the case when Danielle was left alone without Alex.

What made it true for Claire and not Danielle in the same situation? It contributed to instability in both but that doesn't prove anything about siding with the MIB since Danielle didn't.

You have to admit that Kate did a lot better job with Aaron than Ben did with Alex but that still doesn't explain why they said that for Aaron specifically.

Me, too, I thought that the plane flying over at the end, as Jack was dying, was actually pretty awesome ...

I did expect Desmond to connect the two since it was leading up to that, I figured that would happen when he took the cork out of the light.

It was a bit disappointing that the only connection was Jack's dying vision

I very much doubt that, since it still lives on in fan fiction, Hulu and other forums.

YNK there might even be a Lost movie since they make them about tons of other shows.

Dude I totally agree!
But I doubt people are gonna stop talking about it until like a couple of weeks.