Is the US government doing enough to stop the spread of Islamic extremism?
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Carcillian
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Absolutely not. Why would the morons in charge ever want to stop the perpetual wars? It makes them money, lot's of it too. Why would you cure cancer or AIDS when you make more money off of the pills not the cure.
- 1 year ago
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Carcillian
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HaloedGriot
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These guys are basically like rappers in videos...they pose for the camera and grimace, but they ain't gonna do nothing because they aint ready to bring the boom down on those they are working for. At the base of it all, they aren't doing shit for God or Allah...its all for mney, recognition, fame and political influence...
- 1 year ago
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HaloedGriot
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Incredulous
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Absolutely not! The US government is too busy controlling ever other aspect of the average American's life to stop the spread of Islamic extremism...even within its own borders.
Americans are getting fed up with having their everyday existence micro-managed by a Federal government that isn't doing the things it should be doing, and is clearly over-extended doing things it shouldn't be doing.
- 1 year ago
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Incredulous
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kennymotown
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The U.S. is making more islamofacist with every killing in this insane war. What do you think happens when someone's sister brother father mother is killed with a U.S bullet or bomb? You can not win hearts and minds with the barrel of a gun, it's to late for this insanity to ever stop on both sides. Religion will kill us all!
- 1 year ago
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kennymotown
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webmoocher
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The infighting in Congress and the sympathy of the President is promoting extremism. I don't have all the answers but I'm guessing that an open forum with Mahmoud Ahmadinajad would be a step in the right direction (not that he can stop the violence, but he can certainly chill them fuckers out).
On the flip side, we could go ahead with what the extremists want and start an ethnic cleansing program so they can all be martyred.
Notice that the government prefers to go after the rednecks and Christian (yeah they are pretty weird and some down right sick) groups but are down right afraid to raid, burn, kill or otherwise violently disrupt Muslim groups out of general fear.
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webmoocher
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HaloedGriot
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webmoocher:
The rednecks and Christians don't have any fucking excuse to be terrorists, that's why...
- 1 year ago
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HaloedGriot
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Logos51891
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Why should the U.S be the only ones to help stop the spread of senseless violence? We can't do it alone.
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Logos51891
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daveinLA
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No.
- 1 year ago
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daveinLA
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zack
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yes they are doing enough. They act as if they need to do more, so as to have more power over the personal freedom of the citizens. It is inherant, when in power to want more power. This is a lust so powerful, that they don't even understand, and they really believe the lie they tell us, they rationalize to a point, the seats of power really believe they need more power in the sight of a pseudo enemy of their own creation.
- 1 year ago
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zack
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Nephwrack
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how about just extremism in general?
- 1 year ago
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Nephwrack
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mojojuju
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Nephwrack:
Good idea.
- 1 year ago
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mojojuju
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flyingkick
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Islamic extremism is an extremely small problem.
You have a better chance of winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning than running into an Islamic extremist.
The government has more important things to do. - 1 year ago
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flyingkick
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webmoocher
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flyingkick:
I know a family of people that regularly contributes to radical Muslim organizations, both domestic and abroad.
- 1 year ago
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webmoocher
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mojojuju
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I don't think the U.S. government is doing enough to stop the spread of Islam.
- 1 year ago
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mojojuju
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webmoocher
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mojojuju:
LOLZ! That was just good enough to warrant a + which zeroed you out.
- 1 year ago
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webmoocher
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mojojuju
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webmoocher:
Thank you. Thank you very much.
- 1 year ago
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mojojuju
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toyotabedzrock
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It's a lil hard when we still execute people with firing squads and elect people who want to make the country follow christian religious law. We handed out weapons with little bible verses on them. We are allowing our history books to be altered by someone who thinks he is doing gods work! We tortured people and allow the perpetrators to brag about it. Half our population thinks guns are a political solution.
We literally have nothing to offer them, our morality has turned into a carbon copy of theres with just a christian slant. Osama Bin Landen has already won dead or alive. We are turning into them.
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toyotabedzrock
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webmoocher
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toyotabedzrock:
Do you like Shari'a better? I would much prefer to be shot than stoned to death (unless of course it was like the shotgun of death). I like my women to have some education - the stupid ones really piss me off. The long and short of it is that the U.S. is a christian nation, with christian ideals and policies.
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webmoocher
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artemis6
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They are doing it WRONG . Instead of dropping bombs , they could have built schools , hospitals , free birth control , bio fuel community support . Hearts and minds . Stable trade routes . Peace . It takes longer , but it is cheaper and longer lasting . This war is a profitable diversion that helps multnational corporations steal the resources anywhere on earth . You are just lucky , if it hasn't happened to you . Yet . Education is always the antidote to religion . Especially extreemist ones .
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artemis6
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pjacobs51
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artemis6:
Nicely said!
- 1 year ago
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pjacobs51
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artemis6
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pjacobs51:
Thanks . Too bad it ain't bein' done !
- 1 year ago
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artemis6
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webmoocher
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artemis6:
The likes of the Taliban don't much care for education and have an odd tendency to use schools as hideouts.
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webmoocher
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artemis6
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webmoocher:
If parents had another , saner option to school their children , they would use it . The fear of loosing your son to an extreemist religion , as a suicide bomber is not one I wish to contemplate . The Taliban schools feed and teach their children . Perhaps the best meal of the day . A secular school does not exist in many places , if it did , they may well use them . Not much of a chance of that now , is there ?
- 1 year ago
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artemis6
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littlwarrior
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Not our responsibility, just keep it out of this country. We need to stay out of other peoples buisness, until they make it ours.
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littlwarrior
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CalgarC
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littlwarrior:
you just summoned the fail whale lol...
- 1 year ago
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CalgarC
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sktoday
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Well said sexirobot, but my answer is no but we will spend a ton of money thinking we are doing enough
- 1 year ago
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sktoday
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JanforGore
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A nine year war and over a trillion dollars isn't enough?
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JanforGore
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CalgarC
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JanforGore:
they are having trouble finding WMD's... the funny part the WMD's they are looking for have been spilled all over the gulf
- 1 year ago
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CalgarC
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CalgarC
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they are to busy trying to stop the spread of oil...
- 1 year ago
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CalgarC
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Jake_Leonard
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I have an exotic theory that they may be indirectly (or unintentionally) promoting it at the moment.
- 1 year ago
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Jake_Leonard
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ahappymintleaf
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Jake_Leonard:
I don't think it's that exotic to think that bombing thousands of innocent people and taking over foreign countries doesn't spread extremist thoughts against us. artemis6 said it best.
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ahappymintleaf
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Jake_Leonard
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ahappymintleaf:
I completely agree.
- 1 year ago
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Jake_Leonard
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derk
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I agree with many of these comments ... I am not sure we are supposed to ...
Rather, isn't it our responsibility just to lead by example?
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derk
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CalgarC
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derk:
yes... thats why many countries fight each other... "lead by example"...
- 1 year ago
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CalgarC
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EmperorThan
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I don't think the US should be doing ANYTHING to stop the spread of Islamic extremism unless said actions pose a direct threat to us (the US us, lol). If these people want to be extremists in their religion that's their god given right. Religious freedom was one of the things our country was founded on even. I DO however believe we should stop the spread of Christian extremism in the United States, but that's only cus I'm a voter and that's my opinion for what's best for OUR country.
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EmperorThan
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idealist
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EmperorThan:
its all pretty dangerous.extreme religion....
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idealist
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kirby_101
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EmperorThan:
Very true, however that extremism does pose a direct threat to us or any non believer.
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kirby_101
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webmoocher
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EmperorThan:
If it were only that simple - There has been enough damage done in the middle east alone since the 40's that they'll never leave us alone. Should we try an armistice? Hopefully it would contain a covenant that stated that any country that committed an act of war against the US would be subject to 2 sunrises in one day - total annihilation.
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webmoocher
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ssp_prez
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I don't believe that there is anything you can really do. You arrest or kill one person and there will always be someone to take their place. What has hanging Saddam Hussein accomplished? Nothing and do you think the world is going to be a perfect place the day we capture or kill Osama Bin Laden? We live in a world bent on bloodshed and war. Sadly there is no end to war, be it Islamic extremist or some new group promoting hate. This is an ever turning circle of life
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ssp_prez
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Sexirobot
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more relevant question is--- is the Islamic community doing enough to stop the spread of Islamic extremism?
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Sexirobot
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randallr01
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Sexirobot:
I'd say no, because the goal of Islam is to spread & dominate the world. This is true whether Muslims will admit it or not... And it seems to me that while Muslim Extremists give Islam a bad name, most Muslims turn a blind eye to the issue because they share the same end goal.
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randallr01
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ahappymintleaf
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randallr01:
That's the goal of Islam to the same extent that it is of the other to Abrahamic religions. What's written in the books isn't in everyone's heads and actions.
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ahappymintleaf
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ahappymintleaf
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Sexirobot:
I think Muslims have enough trouble trying to seem human day-to-day in the West and live with dignity in the Middle East (between the corrupt or misguided governments of some and constant threats or reality of Western attack/intervention of others) without having to stop the actions and thoughts of extremist peoples. The only Arab and Persian people I've seen within popular media denouncing extremism are those who also renounced their faith and culture, which is a ludicrous correlation to widely broadcast and normalize.
- 1 year ago
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ahappymintleaf
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webmoocher
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Sexirobot:
NO, if they were, we'd be finding guys buried up to their necks with pillow cases over their heads, under a pile of rocks. If the peaceful Islamic community at large would wake up and realize that the extremists were making it tough on all of them and make a stand either by outing the extremists or by fighting them, I would be much more sympathetic. The truth seems to be that the Jihadists are the army of Islam, fighting the war as soldiers to clean out all others. Any Muslims out there that have a problem with my statement, please prove me wrong and take a more proactive approach.
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webmoocher
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Armageddon_Now
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Why don't other people try and stop it?
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Armageddon_Now
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CalgarC
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Armageddon_Now:
because america hates arabs...
- 1 year ago
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CalgarC
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NorwegianHammer
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No we should declare war on 3 more countries.
- 1 year ago
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NorwegianHammer
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ahappymintleaf
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NorwegianHammer:
i think i laughed too much.
- 1 year ago
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ahappymintleaf
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McSwagger
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No & I don't think U can really "stop" it....because the US society has deemed Islam in such a negative light that common or should I say simple minded folks can't tell the difference between normal Islam practices & terrorist nonsense....
- 1 year ago
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McSwagger
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artemis6
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McSwagger:
I like to think our society is not immune to reason .
- 1 year ago
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artemis6