Ten years later, what has changed since 9/11?

how did we become our abusive parent?

First, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. We became our abusive parent because our abusive parents were the leaders of this country. They fanned the flames of hatred and the country followed their lead. If our president or vice president would've been men of peace, we wouldn't be where we are today.

Thank you. It does beg the question of course - what was another way of responding?

When we demonstrated against them going to war we used the set up something like: When Albright was asked by a British reporter whether it was acceptable that a quarter of a million Iraqi children were killed in the war, she said yes - for what we needed to do.
I don't think the same question has been asked of Bush et al ... that would be interesting ...

Oh, I see Madeline Albright can be a real treat, too. That's terrible what she said about Iraqi children. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. It was an illegal and immoral war. You don't respond by attacking the wrong country or any country for that matter. I suggest watching "John O'Neil--"The Man Who Knew."

"I don't think the same question has been asked of Bush et al ... that would be interesting ..."

Those evil assholes would find a way to justify it.

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I read through what you had here, and I have another friend who has felt her emotional strings yanked too. For myself, my friend died in 911, and so I mostly avoid all of it. What I have found out about things such as this is that very concrete evidence has to become available. Or someone in the know has to give evidence with tractable evidence. The folks who faked the famous Big Foot photo finally came forward after the guy who actually did it died .... so who knows?

I was actually thinking about this ... this is very much the tact to take I would guess ... it will require -- like anything that is legal -- a real sleuthing.

I don't necessarily agree that "the mother's milk of politics" is the essential thing that is needed. But rather that the 'team' that comes together has a lot of knowledge and a lot of skill sets across multiple areas, one of which would be different evaluation methodologies from which to build the alternative explanation of what happened with information that can be asserted as valid, reliable and credible. Which the way that these committees function, can't happen.... or right now they can't. Very much anthropological in this way, but the break through will happen if someone comes forth -- at which point the context has already been assembled.

thanks for posting.

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yep. +^d