Feature release: Commenting upgrade [UPDATED]
Hello Currenteers!

In case you haven't noticed, today's feature release is serving up some major upgrades to our commenting system. Discussions on Current.com are extremely important to us, and we've come up with a few updates to existing functionality as well as some new enhancements that will help pave the way for the months to come.
Let's take a quick tour:
Comment Voting: That's right, comment voting is now officially implemented on Current.com.

Each comment will have an individual score based on the aggregate count of votes, so for example: If a comment has 51 votes up, and 52 votes down, a "-1" will display. So, what are you waiting for? Reward some discussion-driving folks by giving them a coveted vote up. Find someone detracting from the discussion at hand? Give 'em a vote down.
Sorting Options: Why not offer some alternative ways to sort comments?

We're changing the default sort on all threads to "Newest" first, this way you'll always see the latest discussions on the main landing page. But, for those of you who prefer to read threads in the order in which they developed, you can always sort by "Oldest" as well. And since we implemented comment voting, it would be a travesty not to offer a sort by "Popular" option. We think this will be an interesting way to find new and insightful commentary on Current.com threads as our discussions develop. Try it out!
[UPDATE] There has been some concerns about the switch from "Oldest" to "Newest" sorting, and I thought it would be best to clarify. For this iteration we are setting our sort to "Newest" for all threads, but we are investigating ways to store your preferred sort in a cookie. This means if you prefer one sort over the others, you will be able to make these stick across the site.
Replies and Pagination: We've made a couple important changes to the way that replies and pagination works on Current.com.

All reply threads are now "open" as a default, you are no longer restricted to replying only to the original commenter, and we've changed some of the design aspects for replies as well. In our older system, any time you reply to someone on a thread you were automatically replying to the first comment on the thread. Now you can elect a person to reply to, and their name will appear at the beginning of your comment. You'll also notice that replies longer indent on discussion threads -- instead, the avatars in reply comments are slightly smaller in size.
These decisions were largely made to help facilitate the ability to sort by popular. For example, a reply to a thread could be more popular than all of the comments on the entire thread. This allows us to display each comment ranked on popularity, while still retaining it's reply status.
Additionally, we've done away with pagination. That's right, each comment now loads by default, which means your scrolling finger will now be ready for a workout.
[UPDATE] How do I edit and reply to comments? Our admin controls for commenting are now hidden when reading through threads. When you mouse over a comment, you should see the vote buttons light up, as well as a "reply" button below the posted comment. If you happen to be the comment author, you should see both "edit" and "delete" functionality in this mouse over state.
[UPDATE] There seems to be some confusion around our decision to default to open threads without pagination, so let me clear a few things up. First, going this route actually fixes one of the bigger issues we've had since introducing threaded commenting -- broken email links. Now when you receive a comment notification email, the link you receive will actually direct you to the comment in line. Giving you the preference to hide replies on threads is something we are investigating, but there are some hurdles involved in accomplishing this without re-breaking our email notifications.
[UPDATE] Questions about the comments that have been removed from commenting threads have been popping up. We're now displaying wherever a comment is removed, and this includes comments removed as violations of community guidelines as well as comments removed by the original poster. Why? Well, whenever a comment needs to be removed, the replies to that comment often have to be pulled as well. By showing that a comment was removed, the replies can stay live as long as they meet our community guidelines. Eventually we would like to add additional clarification between removals for abuse purposes, and removals by the original comment author.
Like the changes? Have some feedback? Please be sure to share your reactions in the comments below, and if you notice any bugs or have any recommendations visit our Get Satisfaction support page and leave us some feedback.
Thanks!
mario
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dalistuff
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Wow u actually read these comments?! Button up for enhancements
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dalistuff
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ETmusic310
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rad. loving the changes:) hopefully current continues evolving along the cutting edge of interfacing with the community.
- 2 years ago
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ETmusic310
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AndrewH13
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I hope people will keep the rating system honest, not just voting down things they don't want to hear.
- 2 years ago
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AndrewH13
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EthicalVegan
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AndrewH13:
Now THAT is definitely a serious concern.
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EthicalVegan
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ryan8566
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AndrewH13:
i don't want to hear that, Andrew, and are voting you down.
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ryan8566
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remanns
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AndrewH13:
That is the rub. Things can easily turn into a pissing contest. Still,...perhaps it encourages involvement.
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remanns
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jeffissleeping
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ryan8566:
haha, funny.
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jeffissleeping
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AndrewH13
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ryan8566:
Well, I'm voting your response up. Thus creating a vortex that will surely kill us all.
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AndrewH13
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Nettle
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AndrewH13:
Lol, I would recommend that, but I can't...
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Nettle
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remanns
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AndrewH13:
Heh.
- 2 years ago
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remanns
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current89
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I love the upgrade. Overall the change is aesthetically pleasing but it also gives a better sense of organization. That said I feel this comment rating system could fall to 'mob rules.' e.g. substance, rationality, depth of a comment will not matter to many. In fact, some will just use this as a way to get back at others who they disagree with.
- 2 years ago
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current89
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Inventor
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I'd like an option to sort by "popular", but limited to those up or down recommenders who aren't brand new to current.com. This would eliminate cases where 50 experienced high-level users voted a message up while 100 brand new sock puppets voted it down.
- 2 years ago
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Inventor
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remanns
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Inventor:
I just voted that up as an idea to consider. I'm not sure I agree,....but I'm not sure I don't either.
- 2 years ago
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remanns
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artemis6
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I like the email and knowing who recommended stuff . Other than that this is easier on the eye . I enjoy reading the reply threads and now reply's seem disjointed . Will it be harder to follow the conversation ?
- 2 years ago
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artemis6
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jeffissleeping
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artemis6:
hmm interesting question...i guess this will be tested on the next high-volume, polarizing post...can't wait to see how it works...
- 2 years ago
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jeffissleeping
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remanns
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artemis6:
I think a lot of people are going to miss that "recommend " feature. ( Luckily I can always keep track of you in conversations thanks to that "POW" red painting icon of yours!)
- 2 years ago
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remanns
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artemis6
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remanns:
You are a darling remanns . voted up !
- 2 years ago
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artemis6
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jeffissleeping
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i'm really, really enjoying this upgrade!
My geeky side is reveling in the ways Mario et. al are pushing the creative boundaries of this 'new media' congregation...
I whole-heartedly agree with flyingkick's comment that the levels next to the icons were nice to have as a reference...although I'd call for a referendum on the breakdown of how levels are achieved, but that's another topic altogether...
Overall, I'd give props to more voting options, more options on the display, and the complete abolishment of pagination altogether...
also, it's quite a kick-ass example that was used to illustrate the changes!
- 2 years ago
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jeffissleeping
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Atalanda_Cameron [removed]
- This comment was removed as a violation of community guidelines.
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Atalanda_Cameron [removed]
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Atalanda_Cameron [removed]
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Atalanda_Cameron: This comment was removed as a violation of community guidelines.
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Atalanda_Cameron [removed]
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EdJoyProductions
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Atalanda_Cameron:
That is messed up. If I had just got mine, I would have been mad too. I was going for my "mysterious level 4" and now I am disheartened that it will not live up to my Jedi super power expectations. :)
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EdJoyProductions
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DJverboten [removed]
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EdJoyProductions:
Jedis don't have superpowers. Compared to mutants they are just circus freaks.
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DJverboten [removed]
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MotherForTruth
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Atalanda_Cameron:
I totally agree with you on #4! I think there should be a way to accommodate this and show two counts # of votes Up AND #of votes down, instead of one counter.
@Mario, would that be possible to change that?
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MotherForTruth
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remanns
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MotherForTruth:
A tally of "total hits" next to a comment AS WELL AS a "+".."-" feature would do the trick.
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remanns
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remanns
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EdJoyProductions:
You got the mind trick where suddenly most everyone has to believe you. It unbalanced the whole campaign. Thats why they removed it in the revised rules.
We are ALL stormtroopers now. - 2 years ago
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remanns
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EdJoyProductions
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DJverboten:
Thanx for the clarification. ;)
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions
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EdJoyProductions
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remanns:
To the Death Star!! Infiltrate from within!
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions
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comicahzy
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E-mail updates are no more? I must protest. Everything seems okay, but the e-mail were always my source of keeping track of everything. What gives?
- 2 years ago
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comicahzy
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cztheday
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comicahzy:
Yeah, the e-mail notices are what usually drive me to the site. I will be scrolling through the e-mails on my cell phone, see one to which I just GOTTA reply, and jump onto the site.
I also agree that in addition to the net popularity score it would be nice to know the number of "ups" versus "downs" for the reason stated above (or below...however this works now...)
But I really like the fact that the reply threads are no longer hidden...at my age just finding my car keys is a major life victory, let alone remembering on which sub-thread that one comment that continues to haunt me can be found...
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cztheday
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DJverboten [removed]
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cztheday:
I totally agree with the phone comment.
- 2 years ago
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DJverboten [removed]
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mario_a
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comicahzy:
Hmm, email notifications on comments should still be going out. There seemed to be a delay post-release on all emails, but a flood of them just hit my inbox so it looks like we're back in business. Let me know if this continues to be a problem.
mario
online community - 2 years ago
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mario_a
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EthicalVegan
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mario_a:
And, just like magic, I've now got 8,433 notifications.*
........................ * Slight exaggeration
- 2 years ago
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EthicalVegan
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Conniepae
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comicahzy:
I'm getting email updates now. Last night that feature wasn't working for me, but today it's fine. I had 200 new emails when I turned on my computer this morning. Unfortunately, I don't have time to read them all. Later today I will be busy reading my emails from current. I'm glad the email update feature was not eliminated.
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Conniepae
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I rather like the system of reading to the current comment. This new format asks that people start from the back. Which seems wholly odd to me. Thank you.
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Mariased
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This makes me want to vote up everything.
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Mariased
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Conniepae
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I like it, but I would like the reply box to come up in the vicinity of the comment, being replied to. I was going to reply to a comment on another post and when the reply box opened up, it was no where near the comment I was replying to.
If it's too difficult to design, this is fine. It will take me some time to adjust, but so far, so good. But, I did notice you have placed a comment box at the top and the bottom. Thanks
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Conniepae
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asherp
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Conniepae:
There must be a way to have the old drop down boxes from the initial comments, yes?
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asherp
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Conniepae
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asherp:
I haven't quite figured it out yet. If you see things that are different, please share.
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Conniepae
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Denica_Cassandra
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I'm a fan of it.
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Denica_Cassandra
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ibrake4rappers13
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This is pretty cool im going to test this out real quick
- 2 years ago
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ibrake4rappers13
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ibrake4rappers13
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ibrake4rappers13:
Not bad.
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ibrake4rappers13
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MotherForTruth
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Dear Current Team,
Great idea for Newest/Oldest/Popular.
Nice to see the counts for Up votes and Down votes.
I miss the list of names for UP votes. I also noticed all of the previous votes are gone.
I miss the indented list of comments. I find it visual indentation is easier to identify which comment goes with which response.
It would be great if I did not see the repeated list of the article if I voted for multiple comments. It just keeps my list too long and hard to find something I posted in the past.
Thank you for continued dedication and improvements.
Added: The e-mail notification does not work.
- 2 years ago
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MotherForTruth
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Conniepae
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MotherForTruth:
I also liked seeing who recommended particular comments.
- 2 years ago
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Conniepae
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MotherForTruth
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Conniepae:
Can we vote for a return of this feature?
Please vote Up if you like to see who liked the particular comment.
- 2 years ago
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MotherForTruth
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Conniepae
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MotherForTruth:
Voted up!
- 2 years ago
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Conniepae
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flyingkick
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What happened to my levels!
I like the voting system, but showing the levels on the side of your avatar is cool, they should bring them back. Also, that way you could tell immediately if someone is a regular commentator or some a-hole that just created an account to troll or sock puppet.
- 2 years ago
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flyingkick
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remanns
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flyingkick:
Well, you can still click on a person's icon to go to their page and see their levels,...so I don't mind it to much as it saves space on the comments page, and the icons just 'look' better. I do miss the "recommended by" feature. It is just more specific and community oriented.
- 2 years ago
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remanns
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artemis6
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flyingkick:
I agree . I respect a poster who has contributed for a while . I like to see their past contributions as well if I am especially intrigued by a thoughtful comment .
- 2 years ago
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artemis6
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mario_a
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flyingkick:
Hey thanks for the feedback. We're working on a major overhaul of our reputation system, so look for something new and improved later this year. For now, levels can still be found on profile pages.
mario
online community - 2 years ago
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mario_a
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EthicalVegan
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I'm already liking the option of "newest-to-oldest" or "oldest-to-newest," and I'm sure I'll very quickly also appreciate the "popular" option.
If my replies to a reply can be directed specifically to one original reply, oboy! That's good. It'll make more sense when readers are trying to keep on top of a specific thread within an article's comments.
And I sure as hell can't BEGIN to tell you how thrilled -- how RELIEVED -- I am to learn that there'll no longer be pages!!!!!!! It was SO frustrating to add a comment and then "automatically" be returned to Page One of, say, four pages of comments and replies.
Someone's really been doing some heavy thinking, and I thank you so much.
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EthicalVegan
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EthicalVegan
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EthicalVegan:
Wow! Just sent a reply to a reply (below), and not only did that work soooo much better, but I really LIKE that the name of the person to whom you're replying is at the beginning. Far less confusing, to be sure.
- 2 years ago
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EthicalVegan
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CalgarC
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its the most useful upgrade since embedded :D
- 2 years ago
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CalgarC
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EdJoyProductions
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I think I like it. My Mac likes it much better.
Question: No more e-mail notification of posts?
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions
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DJverboten [removed]
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EdJoyProductions:
I as thinking the same thing.
- 2 years ago
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DJverboten [removed]
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Conniepae
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EdJoyProductions:
I hope it doesn't end email notification. I like notification when new comments are posted to the discussion. Many times, it rekindles my thoughts on particular topics. Some days I am too busy to comment, when the discussion is in full swing.
- 2 years ago
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Conniepae
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EdJoyProductions
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EdJoyProductions:
E-mails are back so I am pretty happy so far. Love being able to find specific comments quickly. Ya done good! :)
- 2 years ago
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EdJoyProductions
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Ricky84
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Nice upgrade.
- 2 years ago
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Ricky84
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kennymotown
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I'm old, and I think I can adjust to it! It's for the good of the community for me too wonder into the woods and up the mountain to die!.........NOT!
- 2 years ago
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kennymotown
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Orkhaic
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I like the fact all comments show by default now. Good work here (:
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Orkhaic
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DJverboten [removed]
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Orkhaic:
Good for searching for replies that you get emailed on.
- 2 years ago
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DJverboten [removed]
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EthicalVegan
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DJverboten:
Absolutely!!! That was another frustration I'd just forgotten to mention, and I'm sure I'm going to be mighty grateful within the next ten minutes... or less.
- 2 years ago
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EthicalVegan