America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
source: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
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"There is no law that requires the average American worker in the private sector to pay a direct apportionate tax on their wages or labor."
This link leads to the full length movie authorized by Aaron Russo. Please watch mindless of where in the political spectrum you fall in. The film is very informative and very revealing.
Please send the link to others and debate about it.
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hawkiye
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America: Freedom to Fascism is a great introduction to what is wrong and why our economy is crumbling.
Income tax does not pay for roads and infrastructure etc. as some believe, it all goes to pay the interest in the 9 trillion national debt and it doesn't even cover it. So they borrow from China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, and a dozen other countries. Guess what? That still does not cover it so they print more. Oh and by the way the national debt is the interest on the money the Federal Reserve prints and LOANS to the US government.
The Debt can never be repaid It's financial insanity and has brought us to the brink disaster with no sign that they wil change course
Learn more by watching the video Above "Fiat Empire"
- 3 years ago
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hawkiye
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jubal
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Our veto would mean...take it back to the drawing board and give it some more thought.
- 4 years ago
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jubal
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jubal
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BTW did anybody notice that I changed my picture? In keeping with the idea of looking the part of a righty wearing a suit. Hey I am prepared to march in this getup down the street with a million other's in business suits demanding power to the people.
We should be able to trump those corporate neocon bastards by having veto power over their executive office through the power of the petition. One million of our signatures trumps your one signature and signing statements Mr. Bush. We the people have spoken.
This is the kind of solidarity and unity that I am speaking of achieving; and we here at current are perhaps best poised to make that work. I have seen it time and again people disagreeing but still being united around the concept of Free Speech. This is but a microcosm of our lives, and yet if we can achieve solidarity in this forum can we not achieve it outside as well?
Just a thought....
- 4 years ago
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jubal
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jubal
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The time is coming and we are on the verge of the biggest collapse this world has ever seen. I have seen it coming for a long time.
Nobody believed for one second that the Soviet Union would ever be vanquished. Not without much bloodshed or possibly a nuclear war...and yet...it did collapse from within. It was literally a matter of months before the whole thing was literally torn apart and the wall between East and West Berlin was torn down as the ultimate symbol of that pinnacle moment in History.
Well a new wall is going to come tumbling down, the wall between the have and the have nots. Why is this going to happen? Because for too long now the haves have had everything including one thing that will be their destruction; their short sightedness. They haven't grasped the concept of interdependence. We humans and our civilizations and societies have been dependent on the resources of our planet in order to ascend and thrive. For too long these Banana Republic profiteers have been pushing the environment to the brink of disaster. And the Earth, which always moves towards equilibrium, must create an equal and opposite force to counteract the chaos that has been inflicted on her.
Ask yourself, what made the Maya and the Inca civilizations disappear? Did they magically ascend to heaven as spiritual beings? Perhaps if you go for that kind of magical thinking. But the evidence points to a change in natural resources that devastated those empires.
Think about other World Empires throughout history such as the Babylonians, the Persians, the Phoenicians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Holy Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and now the The Christian/Judeo American Empire. All world empires go the way of the sand castle; the current empire is no different. We are on the verge of a major collapse of empire in the merry go round of power.
However, another curious and even more amazing thing is happening at the same time. There is an emerging world consciousness that is changing the globe one person at a time from the inside out. It is a slow process that with each new person snowballs and increases in intensity and impact as it grows. Eventually it will overcome the majority of the inhabitants of the planet, much like the hundreth monkey principle.
What do you think will happen when both of these things happen simultaneously? I don't know for sure, but I have some ideas. Whatever happens it will be very exciting indeed. All of this world chaos and natural disaster, storms, and floods all at the same time. We should all be prepared. To survive will mean to have a greater awareness of nature and how to live with it and live from it. For the time is coming when there will be no more supermarkets, no more schools and no more roads.
Hell we may even be cast back into the stone age for all we know. Most Americans don't know the first thing about engineering, running a power plant that generates electricity, repairing bridges or repair broken water supplies. Most Americans can barely read at the college level let alone write a paper to save their lives. It is truly sad. Our education system is the practically the worst in the Western world. Children are not trained to be critical thinkers engaged in the process of creating a new and better reality for the world, instead they are being treated as cattle and receptacles to be filled and dehumanized to resemble more like sheep. They want good little citizens that won't rock the boat.
- 4 years ago
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jubal
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JanforGore
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Thank you for this link...I had watched some of this in bits and pieces but never got a chance to watch it all. This certainly is about more than income taxes. It is about the collusion between government and corporate banks that truly killed our Democratic process. And notice that in 1913 when this bill was passed we were involved in WW1... The military industrial complex began long before Eisenhower warned us about it. Anyone who knows the term "New World Order" will see where this has led us to...to fascism. To being under the stranglehold of a few elite rich men who control it all. This is why Thomas Jefferson despised the banks and knew that once they had power this is where it would lead us, and we were led like sheep to the slaughter. The income tax was really just a small part of it all. Now the corporations and banks not only pump billions into our political system to keep it out of our hands (as even candidates to this day take millions in donations from those same investment banks,) they buy policy over freedom. And now they are leading us to that New World Order. Very sinister.
- 4 years ago
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JanforGore
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ablindeye
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Everyone wants to break this down to the simple element of taxes. WHY?! if you actually watch the film...you will see it is about much more than that. It's about the RETAWDED equation the private controlled fed uses to print money! It is not simply about income tax...it's about what put our dollar into the state it is in now. Taxes are merely just a bi-product of this topic.
Anyone that breaks this down to a simple argument about income tax is displaying huge SHILL qualities...imho!
- 4 years ago
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ablindeye
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Crazyotto
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this movie is an eye opener! a must watch before you say something like: 'i dont mind to pay taxes' That has to be one of the most unbelievable sentences I have ever heard. go watch this movie.
- 4 years ago
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Crazyotto
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dbocaz
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Jade - The federal government provides all kinds of support to school through grants... our college gets federal government support through grants we apply for. There are all kinds of federal programs to support schools. For the public schools, there's the federal free lunch program, etc.
Poor states like New Mexico need federal help. Pull the plug on federal support and give it to the states as your suggesting would really hurt us. Then we'd really be banana republics... rich states getting everything and poor states having nothing. Federal funding is the great equalizer.
And programs like social security for retirement is attractive if we can keep it.
Roads do receive federal grants and the feds are talking now how they can help more after the Minnesota interstate bridge collapse.
If only we could get a democrat again that uses are taxes more wisely and keeps our country in a surplus (yes, Bill Clinton) rather than in debt, I'm happy to support our government through taxes.
- 4 years ago
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dbocaz
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pressrecord
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china doesn't take dollars.
- 4 years ago
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Marilynn_Murray
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Maybe we could pay China?
- 4 years ago
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Marilynn_Murray
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jade_azul16
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we can do well without the money from the incoome taxes, it isn't being used for the people's benefit anyway...
- 4 years ago
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jade_azul16
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Marilynn_Murray
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Defense is paid out of our tax money Jade. The government pays some for schools too, like No Child Left Behind that never recieved it's federal funding. The Gas tax is saupposed to pay for roads but??? There is probably no income tax in third world countries, but there aren't any of the things we hold dear either. I'll pay my income tax and my property tax, most of which goes to schools because I like where I live and the road to my house, and that kids get to go to a "free" school.
- 4 years ago
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Marilynn_Murray
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resolute
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I have wondered how the U.S. income tax deal will pan out in the long run. It is unconstitutional (never passed) which means it is illegal. This debt the U.S. owes its citizens will be repaid one day. God have mercy on our country.
- 4 years ago
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resolute
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jade_azul16
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defense, roads and public schools aren't payed for by income taxes, marylinn
- 4 years ago
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jade_azul16
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pressrecord
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ironically, i'm also reading essays by thoreau. thanks, dbocaz! MM, thank you.
- 4 years ago
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dbocaz
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It has been awhile since I watch it but I remember it didn't convince me. If I get time, I'll watch it again and give you some specific concerns.
I do agree that our tax system could be better... I think the wealthy do not pay their fair share.
I think you'd be much better off studying Henry David Thoreau than Aaron Russo.
- 4 years ago
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dbocaz
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Marilynn_Murray
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Sorry, I don't mind paying taxes. I believe corporations should pay their fair share too. I don't feel taxes are being stolen from me. It's my country, my government. I want to support both.
- 4 years ago
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Marilynn_Murray
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marilynn and dbocaz, the film concludes that 'income taxes' are defined as 'gains' or 'profits' and not wages or labor. which mean that corporations are to pay for those infrastructure building that we voted for and not the average Americans.
going further into it, tax money unconstitutionally taken from the average american, is not used for infrastructure building at all. rather, it's used to pay back the privately owned 'federal' reserve which the government borrowed with high interest.
so, i'm confused a bit. are you saying it's okay that average americans should pay for something corporations owe?
did you watch the film at all (or again)? i have no qualms with paying taxes as a way to redistribute wealth, build infrastructure, and support my fellow citizens who are doing the same...but that's not what's happening, according to this documentary.
no one likes being robbed...violently or systematically.
- 4 years ago
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dbocaz
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I've seen this before and my reaction is similar to Marilynn's... I'm happy to pay taxes to get the services that helps our nation run. My job is funded by taxes, as are many other jobs, so it would be silly for me to reject them. I don't always love how my taxes are used (i.e. Iraq) but that's why I vote, to try and get people in office who will change things and use my tax dollars for what I think is important.
- 4 years ago
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dbocaz
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Marilynn_Murray
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Sorry, I don't mind paying income tax. It is the price we pay to live in a civilized society. I get a huge benefit from my tax dollars. Roads to drive on is one I don't want to do without, Clean water to drink and power from huge federally funded hydroelectric power plants way too much to mention.
- 4 years ago
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Marilynn_Murray
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hawkiye
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Marilynn_Murray:
To bad you don't understand that not one dime of income tax pays for any government service. It all goes to pay the national debt which is the interest the Federal Reserve charges on printing the money and loaning it into circulation. And it doesn't cover it so they borrow and print more. Why do you think our monetary system is crumbling before our eyes
I doubt you watched the whole movie but even if you did watch it again with a more open mind. It is about much more then just income tax.
- 3 years ago
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hawkiye
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Marilynn_Murray:
Do you really think that your income tax dollars go to supply those? Don't you think that the last two are paid from your utility bill? Who pays the "Federal" Reserve Bank to print and regulate our money? Think about it.
- 3 years ago
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