We're The Enemies Of Our Own State!
source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/02/washington/02intel.html
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/02/washington/02intel.html
Documents show Pentagon now using FBI to spy on AmericansAssociated PressPublished: Wednesday April 2, 2008
ACLU obtains documents after suit over National Security Letters
The military is using the FBI to skirt legal restrictions on domestic surveillance to obtain private records of Americans' Internet service providers, financial institutions and telephone companies, according to Pentagon documents.
"Newly unredacted documents released today reveal that the Department of Defense is using the FBI to circumvent legal limits on its own NSL power," said the ACLU, whose lawsuit was filed in Manhattan federal court.
ACLU lawyer Melissa Goodman said the documents the civil rights group studied "make us incredibly concerned." She said it would be understandable if the military relied on help from the FBI on joint investigations, but not when the FBI was not involved in a probe.
The FBI referred requests for comment Tuesday to the Defense Department. A department spokesman, Air Force Lt. Col. Patrick Ryder, said in an e-mail that the department had made "focused, limited and judicious" use of the letters since Congress extended the capability to investigatory entities other than the FBI in 2001.
Goodman, a staff attorney with the ACLU National Security Project, said the military is allowed to demand financial and credit records in certain instances but does not have the authority to get e-mail and phone records or lists of Web sites that people have visited. That is the kind of information that the FBI can get by using a national security letter, she said.
"That's why we're particularly concerned. The DoD may be accessing the kinds of records they are not allowed to get," she said.
Goodman also noted that legal limits are placed on the Defense Department "because the military doing domestic investigations tends to make us leery."
In other allegations, the ACLU said:
_ The Navy's use of the letters to demand domestic records has increased significantly since the Sept. 11 attacks.
_ The military wrongly claimed its use of the letters was limited to investigating only Defense Department employees.
_ The Defense Department has not kept track of how many national security letters the military issues or what information it obtained through the orders.
_ The military provided misleading information to Congress and silenced letter recipients from speaking out about the records requests.
Goodman said Congress should provide stricter guidelines and meaningful oversight of how the military and FBI make national security letter requests.
"Any government agency's ability to demand these kinds of personal, financial or Internet records in the United States is an intrusive surveillance power," she said.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Documents_show_Pentagon_now_using_FBI_0402.html
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/01/pentagon_and_ci.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/26/AR2005112600857....
Everyone in this administration wants to slap down the post-9/11 fear card to justify the violation of our rights and the suppression of our liberties!
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hobs
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John Edwards. That's a good one. Makes me laugh and cry at the same time.
It's not just changing the politicians that would make the change. We need to change the hole system. We need to get rid of our "leaders" and get new representation. What the politicians are supposed to be. They represent us, not lead us. Read the Declaration and Constitution. I mean read it to understand it. Not just to say you've read it. Think about what it says and if that is what we have now.
If your brain starts to do it's job, you'll start to wonder about the people of that time. Read what they had to say about their situation. I recommend reading Thomas Paine's Common Sense. He wrote we would be with this kind of government if we weren't careful.
Has anyone heard the say, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome."? That is what We The People have been doing for generations. We keep electing the same kinds of people expecting them to represent us. "I voted for him so he must be doing what is in my best interest". We haven't held them accountable. We have unconstitutional laws on the books. Shouldn't making that kind of law be an impeachable act?
My point is we need to take back our government. Remove this Federal Government that operates for it's self interest, and get back to our United States Government that operates for our, WE THE PEOPLES, interests. Electing politicians who want to lead you will only tell you how to live. Elect someone who wants to represent you and tell him how you want him to vote. Vote to change the way this government operates. Don't let our government spy on us. The oppression is getting heavier, isn't it?
I'm sorry Chique. I meant no harm. I just remember Mr. Edwards as a company man and not a man of The People.
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hobs
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Chique
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This trend becomes more and more transparent yet we do absolutely nothing. I'm praying that John Edwards gets Attorney General and arrives with a big shovel.
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Chique