US generals ‘will quit’ if Bush orders Iran attack
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Tension in the Gulf region has raised fears that an attack on Iran is becoming increasingly likely before President George Bush leaves office. The Sunday Times has learnt that up to five generals and admirals are willing to resign rather than approve what they consider would be a reckless attack.
“There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,” a source with close ties to British intelligence said. “There is simply no stomach for it in the Pentagon, and a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible.”
A British defence source confirmed that there were deep misgivings inside the Pentagon about a military strike. “All the generals are perfectly clear that they don’t have the military capacity to take Iran on in any meaningful fashion. Nobody wants to do it and it would be a matter of conscience for them.
“There are enough people who feel this would be an error of judgment too far for there to be resignations.”
A generals’ revolt on such a scale would be unprecedented. “American generals usually stay and fight until they get fired,” said a Pentagon source. Robert Gates, the defence secretary, has repeatedly warned against striking Iran and is believed to represent the view of his senior commanders.
Michael Smith and Sarah Baxter, Washington
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece
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celestialceiling
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It's ALL relevant if Bush is still talking about attacks. We need to get the word out and stop it. If the public knows that military actions are being justified by lies, then it will be harder for Bush to pull the wool over our eyes.
Americans have been apathetic for far too long. So in case you didn't catch these stories as they were hushed up months ago, here they are for you to debate.
- 3 years ago
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celestialceiling
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Sara_Airey
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Yes, it is too bad that they must relenquish their power to use it. I, too, hope that if this happens the senators clearly state why they are resigning. This decision is meant to make waves and would mean nothing if they ultimately are afraid to disturb the water.
- 3 years ago
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Sara_Airey
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Blazesboy
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I do not see how a video from last October and a news article from February 2007 are relevant to the situation of the moment.
Suggestion: read the stories you submit and comment on.
- 3 years ago
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Blazesboy
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damartin90
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at least they're drawing the line somewhere
- 3 years ago
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damartin90
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M_Fleishman
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It's about damn time that the ones with power use it for good.
Although, isn't it sad that in order to use their power they must first get rid of it.
- 3 years ago
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M_Fleishman
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Lerxst
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This isn't entirely unprecedented with regard to the Bush administration. Shortly before the Iraq war began, I recall scanning a Time magazine article while waiting on an appointment. Within that article contained a photograph of Colin Powell sitting next to George Bush during some type of briefing with other top leaders. I'll never forget that photograph as Colin Powell's demeanor betrayed something amiss within the Bush administration at that time. Shortly after that article was released, I began noticing a large exodus of governmental officials from the Bush administration. Most offered up excuses relating to personal issues, and the like. But I wasn't buying it. I felt if anyone was sincere about our intentions at that time, it was Colin Powell, but he wasn't talking. And for whatever reason, he still isn't to this day. However, there had been substansiated reports of rising tensions between Powell and Bush, perhaps leading to his eventual resignation..
I later did a search under Powell's name, and found articles from international sources, such as the BBC, that stated pentagon officials were resigning over their concerns of Bush's "tactics". I also found formal letters of resignation to Colin Powell himself from pentagon officials who'd served with him for decades. There was indeed a changing of the guard taking place within the Pentagon that largely was going unreported within the United States. More research seemed to indicate resignations as a trend during the first administration,which left me quite concerned. Given the nature of letters written to Colin Powell, I was at first surprised he hadn't resigned, until I further learned of the character of the man as a true servant. Inevitably, these events became a turning point in my realization that something was fundamentally wrong in our course of action towards war.
But it would seem the Bush administration is once again counting on the public's ignorance for details. One thing I've learned in recent years , is the importance of history. In my lifetime, I've never seen an administration exploit the public's ignorance of history like this one has. I'm hoping you don't fall for the smoke and mirrors trick this time as well. It truly is our duty to be mindfully engaged.
- 3 years ago
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Lerxst
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TouchArt
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Good for them. Hope they do it and tell the American people why they won't agree to attack Iran.
- 3 years ago
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TouchArt
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Wreyeter
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Has anyone seriously considered the possibility that George W. Bush just might be insane?
- 3 years ago
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Wreyeter
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diabolical44
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if we attack Iran in yet another imperial conquest, I will most likely leave the country and never come back. I will be that disgusted. No way could i continue to live in such a place that is governed by war criminals bent on stealing the world's resources
- 3 years ago
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diabolical44
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shelchak
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Big deal -- SEVERAL senior military figures have already resigned, and Bush simply appointed ppl who agree with him to replace them. But I'm glad they're speaking out about disagreeing, and I hope they follow through and resign en masse -- including Robert Gates. At least it will send a message to John McCain about how insane an idea this is, and a message to the world that not all American leaders have become purveyors of a totalitarian megalomaniac regime. I also applaud the House of Representatives for sending that same message when they rejected the latest $165 billion for Iraq.
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shelchak
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75thDeadMan
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@pigmonkey
if anyone is going to invade Iran it will be Clinton. McCain knows there is no reason to attack Iran and that we don't have the resources to do so. - 3 years ago
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75thDeadMan
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J_Jammer [removed]
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Hopefully it's not just talk that they would do that.
- 3 years ago
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J_Jammer [removed]
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yonie
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I know one person up there that already quit over Iran.
And i quote: 'In an Al-Jazeera broadcast on September 30, 2007, he criticized those publicly urging war, stating "This constant drum beat of conflict is what strikes me which is not helpful and not useful. [...] I expect that there will be no war and that is what we ought to be working for." He also stated that Iran was not as strong as it claimed, "Not militarily, economically or politically."'
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yonie
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pigmonkey
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John Mccain will attack Iran If he is put in the White House. Did anyone see his pro-war speech about Iran in Denver, CO a day or two ago.
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pigmonkey
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LukesAlive
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The day bush gets out of office can't come soon enough.
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LukesAlive
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huntre
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As long as they speak clearly as to why they are resigning. None of that, "I want to spend more time with my family", crap.
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huntre
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ivxx
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I have a cousin who is returning to Iraq for his fourth tour of duty (originally signing on for only two) this time he's being stationed at the Iraq/Iran border.
- 3 years ago
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ivxx
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celestialceiling
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watch the documentary "NO END IN SIGHT" to see how we demolished Iraq. We erased their history.
- 3 years ago
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celestialceiling
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75thDeadMan
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"There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran"
-Well all they have to do is wait another few months. Does this mean they wouldn't resign if Obama/Clinton/McCain go to war in Iran?
- 3 years ago
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75thDeadMan
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celestialceiling
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uroborus,
If we bomb iran, we will be losing thosands of years of music history. all of western music owes its existence to persia and the mediterranian.imagine demolishing our links to the past. We will do better as a society if we look to ancient cultures for answers instead of destroying them.
- 3 years ago
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celestialceiling
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JanforGore
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What good is it for them to resign if the orders are given? What are they doing to stop it from happening?
- 3 years ago
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JanforGore
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korourke
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My suspicions are confirmed... there are still people left in the military and White House with some intelligence and reason.
Can current post a countdown to the new presidency somewhere on its main page? That would make me feel alot better, lol...
- 3 years ago
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korourke
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uroborus8
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Stephen, If we bomb Iran, at least I can look forward to good music!
- 3 years ago
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uroborus8
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Yoshi1
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Doesn't it make more sense for the generals to stay in place and not carry out the orders? It seems like that would be more effective in bringing attention to the situation IF an attack on Iran were ordered.
- 3 years ago
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Yoshi1
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ASUK999
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Its good know that people are willing to act on what they believe to protest against Bush planning the Iran war which is planned by end of August.
These wars have killed too many innocent lives...
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ASUK999
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stephenthomson
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and hopefully more would follow if those first five stand down. It would be a historic event and I would totally write a song about it.
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stephenthomson
