Mystery of the meat-eaters' molecule

Good god man, you are like a walking talking caricature of an overzealous, self-righteous, attention wanting treehugger. Even I think you are annoying and I agree with you on most of your views.

Chastising people while holding yourself up on a pedestal is a great way to change their minds...

You're still avoiding the issue of the environmental destruction that's cause by overproducing red meat.

There are places in the world that HAVE to depend on meat to survive, just like early man HAD to depend on meat for a time...

That doesn't change the fact though that YOU don't.

That also doesn't change the fact the destruction from wealthy nations like ours doesn't FAR outweigh that of the aformentioned impoverished places by the use (and overuse in the U.S.)

Cut down on other things like coal plants. Go nuclear. I'm not giving up meat.

Do you think YOU can produce the alternative energy? Can YOU cut the coal back? No, but YOU CAN make personal choices to at least cut back the immediate things YOU control, like your choice of diet. That's all I'm saying man.

Don't want to bust your chops.

With that logic I wouldn't be surprised if you started eating human babies. Makes no sense.

Very weak defense.

Well YEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAW!

whats that supposed to mean?

It means that your attitude toward animals and the consequenses that eating them (ESPECIALLY red meat) impose are arrogant and bigoted by nature.

It means that I'm NOT impressed and that you sound like a Rush Limbaugh fan when you say that NOT eating something so damaging to your own health and to the health of OUR (ALL OF OURS) environment is not an option for you.

Even the most carniverous people I know have all at least cut back, admitting that they feel better now and they feel better about making less of an environmental impact.

How are you going to seceed from the US if environmental degradation (from things like RED MEAT production) sink California when the ice caps melt?

Priorities my friend.

I care about the environment and love to eat meat. You can live a healthy life and eat meat also. You're not helping the environment one bit by associating vegetarianism with environmentalism. You're actually a distraction from real environmental solutions.

thinkingisfree:

NOT true. I invite you to educate yourself:

http://www.virtualcentre.org/en/library/key_pub/longshad/a0701e/A0701E00.pdf

I've read that before. Do you assume everyone who disagrees with you is just ignorant. I'm fairly sure that report does not advocate a vegetarian diet. A major problem is the destruction of rain forest for cattle grazing land. What the report would indicate is that reform is needed, which I agree. Everything we do is going to have an effect on the planet, but using bad farming practices as a straw man against meat is logical fallacy. Using your extreme line of thinking no one should ever drive a car. But the solution is not to never drive, the solution is to have more environmentally friendly cars.

I'm not assuming anything, just pointing out the fact of destruction that's caused.

Read my most recent post.

I'm not saying nobody should ever eat meat. I choose not to, but it's a personal choice.
There are circumstances when people have no other nutritional choices, and if done in moderation, it's not a big deal.

I only ever brought this up in the first place to highlight the ATTITUDE that came across from Dimitri.

If everyone ATE like he seems to think, we'd probably all be dead already.

And I already have a VERY environmentally friendly car, for the record.

The End.

Correlation is not causation.