Chevron Lobbyist: ‘We can’t let little countries screw around with big companies’
source: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/30/10677/
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But this spring, events for Chevron took an ominous turn when a court-appointed expert recommended Chevron be required to pay between $8 billion and $16 billion to clean up the rain forest. Although it was not the final verdict, the figures sent shock waves through Chevron’s corporate boardroom in San Ramon, Calif., and forced the company for the first time to disclose the issue to its shareholders. It has also now spawned an unusually high-powered battle in Washington between an army of Chevron lobbyists and a group of savvy plaintiff lawyers, one of whom has tapped a potent old schoolmate-Barack Obama.
Chevron is pushing the Bush administration to take the extraordinary step of yanking special trade preferences for Ecuador if the country’s leftist government doesn’t quash the case. A spokesman for U.S. Trade Representative Susan Schwab confirmed that her office is considering the request. Attorney Steven Donziger, who is coordinating the D.C. opposition to Chevron, says the firm is “trying to get the country to cry uncle.” He adds: “It’s the crudest form of power politics.”
Chevron’s powerhouse team includes former Senate majority leader Trent Lott, former Democratic senator John Breaux and Wayne Berman, a top fund-raiser for John McCain-all with access to Washington’s top decision makers. (A senior Chevron exec has met with Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte on the matter.) Chevron argues that it has been victimized by a “corrupt” Ecuadoran court system while the plaintiffs received active support from Ecuador’s leftist president, Rafael Correa-an ally of Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez. The company says a loss could set a dangerous precedent for other U.S. multinationals. “The ultimate issue here is Ecuador has mistreated a U.S. company,” said one Chevron lobbyist who asked not to be identified talking about the firm’s arguments to U.S. officials. “We can’t let little countries screw around with big companies like this-companies that have made big investments around the world.”
But Chevron’s foes are not without their own resources. Just recently, Donziger and other trial lawyers in the case retained their own high-profile D.C. superlobbyist, Ben Barnes, a major Democratic fund-raiser. And they have tapped a capital connection that may pay off even more. Roughly two years ago, when Donziger first got wind that Chevron might take its case to Washington, he went to see Obama. The two were basketball buddies at Harvard Law School. In several meetings in Obama’s office, Donziger showed his old friend graphic photos of toxic oil pits and runoffs. He also argued strongly that Chevron was trying to subvert the “rule of law” by doing an end run on an Ecuadoran legal case. Obama was “offended by that,” said Donziger. Obama vetted the issue with Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy (who has long worked on Latin American human-rights issues), and in February 2006 the two wrote a letter to the then U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman urging the administration to permit the Ecuadoran peasants to have “their day in court.”
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NeoDotCom
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Listen. Maybe you didn't get the Memo. You leftist, tree hugging, acid dropping hippies.
This is our planet and you live on it.
We can destroy what we want when we want it because we run the government and the government runs you.
Don't make us run your IP addresses.
Chevron
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NeoDotCom
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http://www.texaco.com/sitelets/ecuador/en/
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RonenA
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chevron:
why would i believe anything chevron officially says? its obviously gunna be fluffed up to make them sound like angels.
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RonenA
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Palomita
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if you want to learn more...
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Palomita
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polkey1
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and you wonder why gas prices are around $ 4.00 a gallon
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polkey1
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RonenA
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polkey1:
inflation?
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RonenA
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Wetdog
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Well, if I were Ecuador's president--I'd get together with Hugo and a few of my other OPEC buddies and shut off the oil.
George and Dick would be ****** royally.
And instead of a fine---I'd sentence the chief executive officers and board of directors of Chevron to spend three years imprisonment in the middle of the villages they polluted. And I'd garrison troops all around the villages to make sure they don't leave---at least not upright.
HEY, George and Dick, you want the oil back on, hand 'em over.
I think that might work out ok.
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Wetdog
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iloveravi
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At what point is it time to join together and violently rise up against the corporations that hate us?
I'm very serious, so please do not just write me off as a kook.
At what point is it fair to say that a corporation has declared war on the people of earth and so the people of earth are justified in retaliating?
I admit that this begs many questions and would certainly be a new kind of war but I am so angry after reading that article that if I could be provided with some irrefutable proof that Chevron has actually done this, I'd be inclined to take some very serious measures in fighting back.
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iloveravi
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Wetdog
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iloveravi:
We don't have to do anything violent at all.
See my post above.
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Wetdog
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Lusol
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mother nature is going to wipe us all out. We keep messing with and think we rule this earth. Just couple monster hurricanes and storms could change the way we live and the way we see the earth. Its coming
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Lusol
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crob80227
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I love this section:
"The plaintiffs -- some suffering from cancer and physical deformities -- have showed up in court in native garb, with painted faces and half naked. Chevron vigorously contests the charges and has denounced the entire proceeding as a 'shakedown.'"
So Chevron dumps 80 metric tons of cancer causing toxic carcinogens into the air, water, soil for years.
THEN the residents start developing (surprise, surprise) cancer and other health problems.
The citizens with cancer sue the company that dumped then cancer-causing toxins (keywords) into the air and water.
Chevron, the company that dumped the cancer causing toxins that gave the villagers cancer makes the following legal rebuttal: FUCK YOU!
Obviously "Fuck You!" is just the short-hand version of their legal defense.
The longer, more intricate version reads: "Fuck you, ya goddamn savages. Don't you know who we are? Don't you? We shit bigger than you!"
I'm not a lawyer, but this seems to be extremely strong legal footing. Laws (both foreign and domestic) do not apply to people or corporations that have yearly earnings above a certain dollar amount. If your a company that makes (for example) over 2 BILLION a year in profits than, by legal precedent, you are not bound by any laws and cannot be found guilty of anything.
In the US laws only apply to the poor. If you are a CEO, the President of the United States or Britney Spears you are not subject to domestic or international laws of any kind. You can snort as much coke you want, run someone over while drunk, ignore FISA laws, illegally dump toxins....basically do anything you want without fear of legal repercussions. If Britney Spears, George W. Bush or Kay Lay felt like shooting you in the face with a shotgun they are legally allowed to do so. Laws only apply to those of us making under $100k a year.
Under that legal precedent Chevron is perfectly free to poision, displace or outright kill anyone poorer than them.
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crob80227
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Chique
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crob80227:
I feel a migraine coming on.
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Chique
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I'm glad to see this posted. Lawsuits like this hardly ever make major news outlets. There is reason Chevron doesn't want to settle this case. If they lose or settle, it could very well encourage other countries who have had similar experiences with Chevron and other big oil companies to follow suit. This kind of irresponsible business practice is the normal order of business for these companies. Ecuador is small, but what big oil really can't afford is the setting of a precedence. I personally hope they lose badly. They deserve it and Ecuador's people shouldn't have to live in a polluted environment, especially when most of them are not receiving any benefit from the sale of their countries resources.
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This is why the rich get richer and the poor stay poor till they die. Because the system refuses to help anyone who does not have money. You know the old saying, " you need to spend money to make money."? Well, apparently you need to degrade people and ruin our ennvironment, then hire your top lawyers to try and scare the little people to make money. Give me a break Chevron, just admit what you did fix it. I am so tired of the big companies passing the buck. The Equadorian people have been there a hell of a lot longer then Chevron. Screw Chevron. I hope they can at least have a fair trial, but i doubt they will.
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Wetdog
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Time to make biofuels and put some real competition on Big Oil.
One gallon of biodiesel replaces the need for 2.3 gallons of crude oil.
They'd feel the pinch real soon.
PetroSun is making biodiesel right now from saltwater algae in Rio Hondo, TX.
Want to really do something to fix America? Want to do something to fix global warming? Want to do something to break the power of the oil/coal/nuclear lobby?
Then quit shouting. Quit marching. Quit chanting. This isn't the 60's. You want to stop a war over oil? Then get rid of oil. Get your money together do your research and go see a broker and buy stock in companies that will produce biodiesel and ethanol.
When people pull into the station and buy B-100 or E-85, when people have solar panels on their rooftops instead of nuclear reactors, and when we use biomethane and NG instead of coal----the profits that support the Energy Monopoly, corrupt politicians, and a war over oil, and terrorists will dry up and blow away. And so will the Energy Monopoly, corrupt politicians, the war over oil and terrorists.
http://groups.msn.com/BreakingTheChains/general.msnw?action=get_message&mvie...
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Wetdog
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RonenA
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Wetdog:
Cause forget feeding people - I need to drive two blocks!
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RonenA
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SonicSubculture
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This is their idea of giving back to nature.
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scabbio
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they're gonna get away with it too.
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cibalin
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Chevron is responsible. They need to take their licks and do the right thing..clean up your mess Chevron.
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clayjj05 [removed]
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"claps loudly"
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ClayCreature
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If corporations like Chevron are legally considered people, why are they allowed to commit acts and crimes no person would ever get away with?
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ClayCreature:
right on
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ClayCreature:
That whole argument,that a corporation is a person, is ludicrous. I wonder how much that decision cost the corporate royal family. A pretty penny I imagine.
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jubal
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ClayCreature:
This is a big part of the problem, and why this Corporations need to be held accountable if they are going to have personhood.
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jubal
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Chique
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Remember Exxon? From what I understand, even after being fined they have never finished the clean up or paid for the damage after all these years. Tell me who has the power in this country.
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Chique
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iloveravi
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Chique:
Info for you:
Exxon Mobil Corp. succeeded in getting the Supreme Court to slash the additional amount it must pay Alaskans harmed by the 1989 Valdez oil spill from the original $5 billion to $500 million.
Keep in mind that the same year this happened they made Exxon Mobil made history by reporting the highest quarterly and annual profits ever for a U.S. company.
It's fucking sickening.
I'm ashamed to be human when I hear this kind of shit. And although I am not religious I hope there is a hell for these fuckers to soak in for eternity.
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iloveravi
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jubal
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Chique:
EXXON=EVIL
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jubal
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jubal
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This is a complete bunch of crap. We can't let Big Companies like Chevron screw up the ecologies and environments of small countries like Ecuador.
Their so called "investment" did little to actually help Ecuador, it lined the pockets of a few politicians and helped to amass wealth and Billions in profits to Chevron. They owe Ecuador, at the very least, to leave the land in the same condition that they found it.
I fully support the lawsuit and reject the Trent Lott's claims that poor little Ecuador is bullying Chevron. Fuck that shit.
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jubal
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iknew
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just take responsibility clowns.,
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iknew
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Kati_kat
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How dare they speak about corruption? You want corruption, look up the word and you'll see Negroponte's face in the effing dictionary, right next to Trent Lott's. US companies have been screwing over Latin America for decades and longer, so I say screw Chevron.
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Chique
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The first two words address the problem entirely!
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Chique
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bluestranger
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Considering the record quarterly profits the oil companies have been posting it seems they would want to settle. Then again their record on the enviroment speaks volumes on its own. Another option could be for them to pull out and let an enviromentally responsible Co. take over. Probably not going to happen as long as there is a drop of oil profits left in the ground.
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The Obama letter, written before the senator had even announced his run for president, is now the wild card in the Ecuador-Chevron dispute. Donziger said he has had no further discussions with Obama on the issue (although he has co-hosted a New York fund-raiser and, together with his wife, raised between $40,000 and $50,000 for Obama’s campaign). An Obama spokesman last week said the senator “stands by his position” that the case is a “matter for the Ecuadoran judicial system.” So now the prospect of an Obama presidency has given additional urgency to Chevron’s plea for help in Washington. Waiting until next year could leave the oil giant at the mercy of a judge in the Amazon jungle.
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goldenways
