The final countdown: 100 months to save the world

we should make changes for our environment regardless on any time limit we r told

an expiration date put on earth? fucking terrible

Without going into writing a volume larger than an encyclopedia britanica trying to explain it all----just let me say that I have traced most of the root cause of our problems back to one source---oil. Wars, economy, hunger, and many other things plauging us now trace back to oil. Get rid of oil, we get rid of one of the root causes of many many problems, including global warming.

And the BIGGEST problem of all is people standing around, moaning and wringing their hands saying "oh, I'm just one little tiny being who cann't do anything"

Bullshit! No one is a tiny meaningless being who cann't do anything. Everyone can do something. And if you put millions of "somethings" together with a plan, "something" becomes ANYTHING.

Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. ------Theodore Roosevelt.

And don't wait for great leaders or anything else. Just do one thing at a time.

Get rid of oil. Get whatever money you can get together and invest in companies that will produce and market biofuels. Big Oil is only Big Oil because it has no competition. David didn't care how big Goliath was. David won. My German Shepherd Riga did not care how big Bruno the Great Dane was when he attacked her---Riga won. Big Oil ain't so tough, just big, that's all. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

Invest in biofuels, anything you can. Put a grid tie solar panel on your roof. Even if you don't become energy independent you'll reduce demand and the arguement for nuclear power. Support Wind power. Make utilities get rid of coal---it can be done cheaply and easily:
http://groups.msn.com/BreakingTheChains/general.msnw?action=get_message&mvie...

The reality of the streets is worse than anything anyone could imagine of it. People became rude, senseless and selfish. It is the "ME" generation doing their part of the damage. Come to San Francisco and try your experiments on public transportation and you will see a little sample of it. People that are in transit cannot see this on its full extent because of the time and movement issue that makes part of the events "transient." However those that live here knows society is out of control and intentionally polluting as they please.

I honestly just believe that this is what is just going to happen. I am not a doomy person, I do not want to die, but I am also not afraid to. I think this is just the direction that this planet is headed and thats just what it is. That dosen't mean we shouldn't do everything we can to slow it down, I have kids, ya know? I want them to live their lives as long as possible.

But I do believe that the mayans were right and the scientists who confirm that a polar shift will occur. I dont see why people are so concerned about fear mongering. Fear mongering is the entire basis of our society..you want to find a real good source of that, just go to church. But at the same time, its the truth, there really isn't any denying it unless you want to be arrogant about it. We are only humans but we are also creating a lot of unhuman machines that are contributing greatly to the problem.

Here is a plan to change things that can easily be done in 5-7 years.

http://groups.msn.com/BreakingTheChains/general.msnw?action=get_message&mvie...

Yes, the poles have shifted, it would take the energy of everyone on the planet to stop it now, there is not stopping it. Cleansing is on it's way.

100/12=8.3 Years and 3 Months.

That's 8 Years and 3 Months goal. Isn't that what Al Gore had proposed anyways?

Why not showing this in Years instead of Months?
Is this a Math class?

Scare mongery possible, but no matter how arrogant we become we are only humans and the universe is a more powerful force than we could ever understand. Live fast, die young. Free Tibet.

death is near upon us all...

Although carbon emissions from human activity are dangerours and need to be brought under control, recent global warming trends appear to be related more to increased solar activity than any other single cause.
Research it yourself.
Tempratures are rising on all the inner planets of our solar system.
In the middle ages, global tempratures were much higher than they are now.
Watch out for repressive legislation that uses warming as a cover for advancement of the global facist agenda....

Irony: Maddona's "Four Minutes to Save the World" comes on the radio *right* when I open this.

oh god we are so screwed.

Its a joke aint it... it's probably everything more than likey each just having a little effect adding to global warming.

The problem is the general population not really having a clue... and being bombarded with do this and that...

what happens if we do everything they are telling us and the world goes to shit anyways...? will everyone then realise that its not entirely the human race's fault and that there are other factors which contribute to global warming.

Thanks for the vid...

Say we stop all carbon emissions from the United States tomorrow... how do we stop emissions from the rest of the world? Was is China or Japan that beat the whaling bill? Do you think they give a shit about global warming? It would take decades- if not centuries, to clear the air of all emissions if we stop tomorrow. Unfortunately, the United States doesn't own planet Earth, no matter what politics say, therefore, this is going to be the final slap in the face reminding us of reality.

I thought we only had four minutes to save the world?

Great, A timeline.

Let the procrastination begin.

The world is not enough...

good to know that people are out there calculating our time left till our demise. Are you fucking serious? this is why I stopped visiting this site, so much negativity and fear mongering. way to add to immense amount of negativity in place of doing something positive and productive.

Mother nature can not be pushed around with no reaction. Its going to kick our butts in the next few years, even the mayans saw this one coming.

but regardless of us pumping all the stuff that we do in to the atmosphere ... this was going to happen... it has before and will do for millennia to come... if it wasn't our hydro carbons, it could be sun spots or volcano's, or solar flares, or changes in the megnetosphere... or the ionosphere...

im not saying what we're doing isnt wrong cleaner tech is the way to go... but climate change is inevitable.. its not about stopping it its about how to adapt... and THAT is what people should be focusing on...

I always believed we would destroy this planet before God would and it seems to be happening. So 8 years...I honestly don't think humanity cares because the future means much less to us than the present unfortunately

i think the part of that being a "conservative timeframe" is very true. Already it seems to be spiraling out of control. Look at all the heat waves and deaths that inevitably follow. The wildfires that are out of control. The hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes (this year i physically saw two where as i've never seen any in my life...and had probably 10 tornado warning in my city this year), floods, the 7 square mile wide ice that just broke off of canada. It is disgusting to me that people, even my own parents, to this day deny what is happening to our planet. Claiming humans are too insignificant. Maybe at one point in history we were. But the earth has become quite crowded.

I feel completely helpless having brought in two little babies into a world where we are stuck not being able to afford a change or perhaps the masses have become to selfish and foolish to really want change.

crob! Excellent. Well said.

crob is my hero.
a tireless debater, teacher, and champion of common sense. thanks crob.

You hear that rebuttal a lot: If we can't predict the weather one 100 percent accuracy, than how can anyone make predictions about the global environment?

Can we predict the exact day a 4 pack a day smoker will get cancer or the exact type of cancer they will get?

No, we cannot with 100 percent accuracy predict the exact type of cancer (or heart disease) someone will devlope and on what day.

Does that mean smoking 4 packs a day every day is healthy?

Does that mean warning someone who is smoking 4 packs a day every day that it will kill them is an "alarmist overaction"? Is such a warning to a smoker "fear mongering"?

No it is not.

It's what is known as common sense.

Can we predict the exact day, hour and minute all the pollution we're pumping into the air will cause an irreveserable tipping point in terms of global weather patterns?

No.

Does that mean smoking 4 packs a day, er, excuse me -- does that mean dumping 40 billion metric tons of cancer causing carcinogens into the atmosphere is harmless?

No.

If someone correctly points out that at some point (we don't know exactly when, but we have a good guess) the earth will develope "lung cancer" if we continue to pump 40 billion metric tons of cancer causing carcinogens into the atmosphere -- does it make sense to call them "alarmists and fear mongers"?

No.

This piece of news is not something to be surprised about. Anyone can take a good look outside and see vehicles everywhere and when there's cars there's fossil fuels. I did a project on this in high school and according to the information that i gathered, we are as dependent to oil as fish are to water. It has become our way of life especially for those living in cities.

If all this alarmist propaganda makes us more efficient and conscious of our role in the world, then I guess it is an means to an end.

We can barely predict hurricanes and rainfall. What makes us think we can predict the planet's fate??

Love the earth God has blessed us with. Be responsible and do not waste. But don't get on the bandwagon without thinking it through. Please.

And drop Al Gore as a mascot!

nice lol...

climate change is real there is geological data showing periods in the earths history of extreme cold and heat, we've just never been around to see it...

dont worry the oil crisis will soon take presidence and we'll probs be drafted lol...

if this is true this is not good. people must hold hands as one!

damnit, i probably will still be alive to have to deal with this.

the fat, rich ol' white guys causing this will all be dead of course. stupid canklebandits

Although factoids often scare us into believing things that may not be perfectly true, we do need to change our attitudes about global warming and the destruction of our planet. Small things help, (here you go lindseyindigo) like washing your clothes on cold and using them multiple times before washing again, taking shorter or less showers per week, turning off lights, unplugging electronics especially when not in use, riding bikes or walking short distances. These are simple and take only a conscious mind to achieve. Consider the change if everybody considered these small steps.

The most important? Become less of a consumer.

should all do what im doing saveup buy a boat if the climate heats up move the antarctica... will probs be nice and temperate, it has been in the past.

Climate change is real but its just a naturally occuring process on our planet, we just haven't been recording it long enough for everyone to realise this. So even if we are pushing it on faster i was going to happen anyways, and we'll go through an ice age and a hot age, and what we're experiencing now a sort of temperate age... In the 70's they thought we were at the start of an ice age now this. lol...

If we do solve the carbon problem and say everyone is driving around in a hydrogen car then and, i think everyone should put money on this one, there WILL be a water vapour problem and possibly extensive global cooling...

only thing i will say is that we all have a responsibility to do something especially when we know it's doing harm... or is it???

typical human race don't do shit till shit hits the fan... Lazy barstewards!

The Industrial Revolution was the beginning, now we are close to the end. Why cry, we are all guilty. Back to the caves!

The mandatory madonna cross branding begins.... now. I dont have Madges' number in my cell can somone get it to me?

Funny huh? I cannot even convince my family that climate change exists. Despite selling my car, moving a block away from my work\school, even my co-workers remark, You are walking home? I can not believe that the society we live in is so detached from reality. F*ing republicans!

Perhaps I should be brushing up on my post-apocalyptic survival skills...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjjrStDxTrc

Over the top title. No wonder people don't take this as seriously as they should be doing. I would say we have less than 10 years to slow down the tipping points from occurring in our oceans and our atmosphere, and think we may already have reached it with glaciers. However, we can slow those tipping points down by working to stop the burning of fossil fuels, planting trees to offset deforestation, and for once seeing the 400 lb gorilla in the room: population. Will the world end in 100 months? No, but it will not be habitable by humans and other species within the next ten to twenty years if we don't get serious about this. And just curious, why didn't the poster give their opinion on this and who is 'us'? Do you work for Current?

Submission?

What kind of submission?

I’m a pretty optimistic person so this report doesn’t bother me. If we cross the tipping point in as little as ten years it does not mean the civilized world will be destroyed. Even if all the governments of the world did fail I would still be fine. I could survive a post apocalyptic world in my thirties.

This is absolutely ridiculous. More doom and gloom scenarios to scare you people into submission.

so i guess i wont have to finish paying off this mortgage anyhow

Well, at least we'll know when it's too late. Note to self: Don't have any kids and/or build really cool underground bunker.

I guess I might as well sell my skis and snowboard while I still can...

this is ridiculous. 100 months ooooohhhh scary.

Thanks for the article. I think using fear might be a way to MAKE CHANGES HAPPEN. It might scare the greedy, selfish, evil, stupid and naive into hippie submission.
We should have done the environmental math 50-100 years ago,... but since we were/are more concerned with personal wealth, happiness and self-righteousness,... the changes might not be made in time. And the changes we actually do make might not be enough. It's pretty clear that the Earth doesn't want us here. The planet may not be fully healed until our epoch has ended,... but,... until then, the least we could do is clean up after ourselves and pretend we care about the future.

ENVIRONMENTALIST HYPOCRISY ABOUND

.... when i read this headline this huge chill just ran up and down my spine till i read it over like 5 times.... sadly these guys are prob right...... anybody kno where the nearest secure bunker is?

That time frame feels right to me:

We're already seeing with our own eyes a runaway environmental problem occuring:

1) Massive (mysterious?) bird die-offs

2) Massive (unexplained?) bee die-offs

3) Penguins! More die-offs.

4) Massive heat waves with record low rainfalls.

5) Coral reefs dying off in massive numbers

All of these things are happening all at once.

I don't know which is more disturbing -- people who are accused of overreacting or the people walking through a massive field of dead birds on the 98th consecutive day of 100 degree heat proclaiming that everything is fine, just fine!

"Sure it might help to recycle a little more," they say as they walk through a field of dead grass watching a massive forest fires burn out of control in the distance "But surely there is no urgency! Let's not go off and....ouch!"

Another dead bird has fallen from the sky and onto his head.

"Weird. But like I was saying everything is perfectly fine! Just fine! Just fine! Just fine!"

Why does everyone hear something like this and say... oh they are just fear mongering.

Why can't you thick skulled morons just accept the fact that we are doing serious and irreversible harm to our planet?

We need to act now to save the planet for our children and their children.

Change your habits now, before its too late! I would much rather change my lifestyle, save our environment and later find out we were wrong than pass on a polluted mess to my children.

STOP BEING SELFISH!!!

At least we make it past 2012!

What I always think about when people give these exact dates is: How did they come up to that conclusion?

What if we only have 10 months left and he forgot to drop the zero?

As has been said, I don't think this sort of action is going to do anything than stir the pot. If you want to save the world, you need to educate both yourself and those around you about what is important, and what only seems to be.

thanks for the post, Jana

I wouldn't say any of this is unrightly trying to garner panic, though panic could very well be the most rational response once getting to know the science.

Eugene Kleiner said, "there is a time when panic is the appropriate response."

These environmentalists are some times exaggerating facts to create panis to achieve something they themselves are unaware of.

I am not arguing against being environmental friendly. All I am asking to keep the sanity in tact. Remember the case of biofuels. These guys made the legislators around the world crazy for replacing gasoline with biofuels. The resultant legislation played a major role in increasing basic food prices to a level that now basic commodities are beyond the range of the poors in most of the world - and guess what, a stanford research has proven that using ethanol is more damaging to the environment than gasoline......

Articles like these are basically ruining the noble cause of making our planet a better place to live. It is like doctors promoting keeping your hand in boiling water for 20 hours a day, as there are bacteria in the air!!!! - while the solution is to wash your hands before eating....

For a nation full of procrastinators, perhaps a deadline like this will motivate the American people to take action... or it could be dismissed or ignored like all the other warnings we've received in recent years... I guess we'll know in 100 months... fingers crossed!

Nebulous. Is that like something to do with the stars? Ahh, that's my new word of the day.

I'm a terrible planet-saver. I recycle only when I remember, I like working on pieces of paper so I print stuff out, I like travelling so don't feel bad about flights, and I keep animals which emit all kinds of nasty methane. But I do walk, or bus, or train everywhere, as I don't have (or need) a car. Though I do secretly want one.

What is the single most important thing we could all do to reduce our impact on the environment? Just one thing, the biggest one?

Global environmental catastrophe of one sort or another is already unstoppable. But hey not to worry, we will survive. It will just be a case of humanity, but not as we know it.

Personally, holding a belief in reincarnation, I would like to make the following appeal to all polluting industrialists - "stop screwing up my future lives!"

Smoke em if you got em... Good Luck Folks