Obama pledges support for gay families

Again, you're ignoring the fact that the children would have other male and female role models (grandparents, aunts, uncles, ect.).

You argue that any group that thinks gay parents can be good parents is part of some plot to destroy the American family. The Child Welfare League of America, North American Council on Adoptable Children, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, and the National Association of Social Workers all think gays can be as good as straights at raising children.

My sources are far more reliable than yours.

I think the phrase you were going for is "a wolve in sheep's clothing," you moron. If you're going to hate Muslims, do it right. And for future reference, Obama isn't Muslim. You'd know that if you had enough brains to do some reseach.

Why do you have to always insult people to make your point. It is so counterproductive.

Christians in general do not know what the Koran teaches and do not understand the good points about Islam.

Everyone should know about other faiths, be multicultural,international and multilingual in this day and age.

The personal attacks on Obama about being Moslem are narrow minded and increased by the fear created by the Islamic terrorists.

Now you're just being ignorent. Single-parents and gay parents make up a large percentage of those adopting orphans. If you took that away, thousands more children would be in group homes and the foster care system.

500,000: Number of children living in foster care in the United States.

14,100: Number of foster children living with lesbian or gay parents nationwide (3 percent of American foster children).

35: Percentage of lesbians who currently have children (16 percent of gay men have children).

Sources: S.F. Department of Human Services, the Urban Institute, the Williams Institute

Vitamin, you are using the issue of adoption to justify gay parenting. It is misleading. These are two different issues. I know where you are going.

I am aware of the 500,000 children in foster home.
I hope one day our country will wake up to this need.

We are falling in that regard as a country.

The state of Massachusset and the gay lobby has shut down the oldest adoption agency in that state because they did not want to go against their deepest belief about homosexuality. Despite the fact that there are other agencies to choose from, their religious freedom was taken away like in a totalitarian state

Meanwhile that religious denomination still takes care of over 25% of aids patients in this country with love and compassion.

Research to date has reached an unequivocal conclusion about gay parenting: the children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as successfully as the children of heterosexual parents. In fact, not a single study has found the children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged because of their parents’ sexual orientation. Other key findings include:

There is no evidence to suggest that lesbians and gay men are unfit to be parents. Home environments with lesbian and gay parents are as likely to successfully support a child’s development as those with heterosexual parents.

Good parenting is not influenced by sexual orientation. Rather, it is influenced most profoundly by a parent’s ability to create a loving and nurturing home -- an ability that does not depend on whether a parent is gay or straight.

There is no evidence to suggest that the children of lesbian and gay parents are less intelligent, suffer from more problems, are less popular, or have lower self-esteem than children of heterosexual parents.

The children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as happy, healthy and well-adjusted as the children of heterosexual parents.
Source: American Civil Liberties Union

As for the adoption agency, state funded programs simply must be secular. That agency was in the wrong so it got shut down.

Children raised by gay parents are 7 times more likely to be gays or bisexual.

Shutting an adoption agency because they do not want to sing the gay religion mantra is absolutly evil and unacceptable.

Our ancestors came to America in order to be free of religious tyranny.

I am sorry to say but the ACLU is not the kind of reference I trust.

The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry also says that gay parents are no more likely than straight parents to produce gay children. Do you believe them? Where do you get your information? Do you make it up on the spot? Or perhaps you get it from one of those anti-gay propaganda sites? I wonder if you think that The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry is part of the "gay agenda" and some nefarious plot to destroy the country.

The adoption agency your currently complaining about was not shut down by the state. It closed its adoption services because refused to comply with state laws and was discriminating based on sexual orientation. They held religious dogma over the welfare of those children.

By the way MY ancestors were taken to America by force and were forced to convert. That's religious tyranny.

They were forced to shut down because they did not want to propagate the Gay religion forced upon them

You can play with words as long as you want that does not change the reality

Who do you think you are to want to restrict parents from choosing the adoption agency of their choice.

Gays can go to the gay agencies if they want.

That is just state dictatorship. That is sick and medieval.

The statistics I shared before on gay parenting are in one of my archived post on the subject. You can find it easily

Many associations with lofty title do not impress anyone anymore because many have lost credibility and hide their agenda behind faulty research.

That was working 20 years ago but today people may be silenced but they think for themselves.

From the teachers union to the ACLU, to the congress, the credibility factor is less than 10 %

First of all, homosexuality is not a religion, it is a sexual orientation. Don't get it twisted. That church choose to end its adoption services because their prejudice was stronger than their compation for those children.

"Who do you think you are to want to restrict parents to choose the adoption agency of their choice." What the fuck does that even mean?

"That is just state dictature. Its all about you rights That is sick and medieval. Youn are going backward 500 years" Rights are sick, medieval, and backward? The simple fact of the matter is that all adoption agencies are state sanctioned and can't discriminate point blank. That church just couldn't comply and now the children suffer for it.

Also, you never where you get your information from. I'm not gonna hunt through your postings looking for it.

Homosexuality is a belief system, it is a different worldview of the universe, a different view of life, its purpose and of his creator or non creator if you do not believe in a creator

Communism was also a belief system, a religion in its own right. I do not want to go in details here.

The concept of family, parenting, the duality of male and female etc...etc all of it is redefined in the homosexual religion. This is why there is so much anti religious accusation because homosexuality is in direct conflict with all the main religions of the world.

Homosexuals have only two possibilities 1) change themselves or 2) change the whole universe, all the beliefs systems and more.

The parent child relationship and the man and woman relationdship. All together is the axis of the universe.

The grandchild is an extension of his father and grand father as well as of his mother and grandmother.

Gay parenting destroys lineage, including the relationship between ancestors and descendants.

It is a religion without a name

Homosexuality is a belief system? You're hilarious! It is no more a belief system than having blue eyes or red hair, dearie. As for the rest of your ludicrous posts on this subject, they only betray profound ignorance, at best.

The tax break would apply to same-sex couples just like the tax break applies to opposite-sex couples.

But if you want to be gay, all you have to do is be attracted to someone of the same gender. Can't do it? Well I can't be attracted to someone of the opposite gender. Just doesn't work. Weird!

actually we don't know anything yet, because he is not in office. i will agree he is still a politician, but the interesting thing about B.Ob is not his 'silver tongue' but rather who he is inspiring to become more involved. even if he reneges on half his policies, but if he inspired people to speak to those they normally wouldn't have, and some real understanding takes place, I think we are all in a better place. let's see what he does if he makes it to office before we pre judge his actions.

I am not really impressed that he inspires a bunch of myspace kids who don't generally follow or know much about the workings of govnment or the history and design of this country.
They just follow whatever their friends do, like a bunch of mindless cows in a field.

Ha, montesooma. The beauty of America is that opinions, even one's as irrelevant as this, can be heard. And it's spelled government, by the way. I guess with all that stuff in there about history and design, spelling got squeezed out.

(applause)

Here Here kbclef!!!!

When I was 12 years old my mother told me she was a lesbian. Was I scared about how people would react? Hell yes I was. Did it make me love her any less? hell no! She will always be first and foremost my mama, the fact that she fell in love with a woman is just a trivial fact about her, it doesn't define her and she didn't turn me into a lesbian. Growing up with lesbians did not hurt me in any way shape or form, so I don't want to hear anymore about how gay people shouldn't be parents god damnit!!!!!!!!!!

if you could only prove that gay is a brain condition like having autism, you would maybe have half a point.
Just because a behaviour becomes widely accepted by nieve people who believe anything they read and that comes out of hollywood, does not make that a good behavior or one to regard as favorable.
The government doesn't sanctify(approve of) marriage the people do. that position of favor was bestowed because society deemed the family unit as Good for society.Marriage is not a right it is a special status.

There is A LOT of scientific evidence that gay brains are different that straight brains. In fact brain scans indicate that gay men's brains are more similar to heterosexual women, than straight men. Lesbian brains are more similar to heterosexual men, then heterosexual women.

im pretty sure if there was that much "scientific evidence" then we wouldnt be having this conversation.

you call homophobic all who dont agree with public faggotry, in my case it is not a phobia(fear).I believe it to be more of a sexual perversion that should no more be in public than other perversions.
I don't have to embrace homosexuality.That is my right.
I think most of those who do, it is because it makes them FEEL good about themselves.(a typical liberal habit).
but most of you are a bunch of fakers

Ever heard of PURSUIT OF HAPPINNESS?

Guess not, afterall that document was written by an enlightened person, so its doubtful someone like you would ever look at it.

montesooma -
No one cares if you embrace it.
Just keep your damned nose out of our business.
It won't ever affect you. Don't be such a whiny pussy.
You assume much when you are obviously ignorant of the subject (unless you are in fact gay).

Tell me how gay marriage/ family is any of your business - and don't include religion in your argument, or any baseless propaganda spawned of its institutions.
Go on.

PS
"Public faggotry"
I'd be willing to bet a substantial amount of money that, 50 years ago, you'd be one of the jerks telling black people to "accept the way things are," if not lynching them outright.
Find some other outlet for your hatred and disgust - perhaps something that actually deserves hatred and disgust.
Your priorities are screwed.

How is discrimination in America not a real problem?

The problem with your statement is that, by making this decision, he's going to make a whole lot of people unhappy.

Let's face it, homophobic people are probably also racist so they won't vote for him anyway.

lets make sure that sneeky, skinny ass , socalist, BLACK guy doesn't get in

monte-
Why did you capitalize BLACK? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

sounds great until you realize ---they're fags
Marriage is society's stamp of approval on someones living situation.
I don't think the majority of people should be forced to put their approval on this when they don't agree with it.

This is flawed reasoning. Marriage between two people is a personal decision. The only approval that marriage has to do with is the two parties who choose to live together. Popular opinion should have no place in deciding who can and can't get married. If you don't like gay marriage, simply don't get one. Any action beyond this is just bigotry against someone you don't care to understand. This is the opposite of what our Constitution stands for.

Montesooma, you obviously have hatred towards people that are different than you. Im always baffled by it, its their marriage, why does it concern you? You think gay couples are gonna skrew up because they are gay? Look around smarty, american families have been falling apart for half a century with straight couples. It has nothing to do with straight or gay, its the actual person.

We are all humans, but we are all different...maybe you dont realize that yet.