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S.E. Cupp on Palin

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By Michael O. Powell

My friend S.E. Cupp has a great article over in the New York Daily News, wherein she asks if Palin would still be a good candidate if she were a man:

For the sake of this argument, let’s pretend the attractive mother of five isn’t a woman, and let’s call her Sam.

Sam Palin has impeccable conservative credentials. He’s a reformer, he’s pro-life, he’s for small and effective government and he’s for drilling domestically, even if it’s in his own state.
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40 comments // S.E. Cupp on Palin

  • TouchArt
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      TouchArt  

    • I'm no McCain supporter, but the man is much more complex and formidable than the Dems give him credit for. Obama and the Democratic Party Machine underestimate McCain at their peril. It was not surprising that, despite all the pageantry, 90,000 crowd and cult of the personality they produced at the Democratic Convention in Denver, Obama didn't get a bump in the polls and is still neck and neck in the race against McCain.

      Americans do want substance and Obama's words don't match his actions, while McCain's do, and have for decades. Painting McCain as McSame and a third term for Bush won't work for most Americans who have seen John McCain for decades stand up for what he believes regardless of his party's position.

    • 4 years ago
  • TouchArt
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      TouchArt  

    • As for my assessment of the judgment shown by the VP choices of both presidential candidates, I see Obama's choice of Biden over Hillary Clinton as a sign of weakness and a poor decision politically.

      McCain's choice of Sara Palin, is a brilliant political choice that energizes the Republican's conservative base and presents an opportunity to attract voters who want someone on the ticket with executive experience, who has stood up to corruption in their own party, and is a real person from the working and middle class who connects to the average American.

      It does disgust me, that the Dems, who had the opportunity to put forth an experienced woman presidential candidate in Hillary Clinton who passionately works for the core ideals of the democratic party, chose to destroy her candidacy with sexist and ageist attacks that will hurt women and older women for decades.

      It is even more disgusting that Obama, given the opportunity to choose Hillary Clinton as the VP nominee and solidify his chance of winning with the support of her 18 million voters, instead, chose a "good ole boy" and left the door open for McCain and the Republicans to have the historic distinction of having the second woman on a presidential ticket.

      In their VP choices, Obama showed he was really more of the same, and McCain proved he is the maverick whose allegiance is to the country above politics.

    • 4 years ago
  • TouchArt
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      TouchArt  

    • My choice was a Hillary Clinton/John Lewis ticket. This presidential election, I'll either write them in, or stay home, and not vote for either ticket.

      When Obama and his camp of Democratic "good ole boys" used sexism and ageism to squeak a win for the presidential nomination, I finally realized my lifelong loyalty to the Democratic Party was misplaced.

      I won't be voting for President this year. It's taken me far too long, but, I see clearly now that the Democratic Party has little to offer someone like me who is a lifelong Indigenous Rights Activist committed to women, children and families, healing and walking in balance on the earth and working for Peace with Justice.

      I will continue my lifelong work for change and support people who words match their actions to bring Peace and Justice to their homes, communities and the world.

    • 4 years ago
  • krag2112
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    • Maybe so. McCain certainly wouldn't have made this pick had Obama gone with Clinton.

      TouchArt I remember you being an ardent Hillary Clinton supporter. Does McCain's choice of running mate make you more likely to vote for him?

    • 4 years ago
  • TouchArt
  • isnamthere
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    • Who's the picture of that accompanies this article? Is that S. E. Cupp? The article sucks and is obviously propaganda. But S. E. is surely a hottie!

    • 4 years ago
  • krag2112
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      krag2112  

    • I don't see how there can be any "ifs" about it. He made a purely political selection. Maybe she'll turn out to be a wonderful candidate, but that won't change the fact that is was a political choice. He only met her once. And making a political choice is his right, he is the nominee. But for six weeks he's hammered Obama about not being ready to lead and for making decisions to "get elected" president. Should we be shocked at hypocrisy from a republican? No. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't point it out either.

    • 4 years ago
  • soleil10
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    • krag2112:

      Every decision has political consequences.
      There were rumors about her as a VP prospects for many many months.

      The fact that the media was surprised and did not see it coming does not make it less relevant.

      This "he met her once "is just propaganda by the media would just does not know what went on behind the scene.

      I do not make my decisions from the mass media.

      John McCain had been looking for a VP for months.

    • 4 years ago
  • krag2112
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    • krag2112:

      How do you know it's only propaganda? I don't think that just because it was reported in the media that it makes it untrue. Of course he's been looking for a VP for months...but again, that doesn't mean this was a well considered or even well researched choice. I understand your cynicism of the main stream media, it is well earned, but jumping to the opposite conclusions, without proof, is just as bad.

      Here's an article about the selection that supports that that they only met once (and that meeting was last Thursday).

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/us/politics/31reconstruct.html?_r=2&oref=s...

    • 4 years ago
  • soleil10
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      soleil10  
    • krag2112:

      I say it is propganda because during the 2 or 3 hours after the news came, the talking heads at CNN were focusing on "He met her only once".

      For the public, it means that he did not know much if anything about her. That is not the case.

      She had been vetted. She was on the short list etc..etc..

      There were rumors about her for months. Go on you tube. It is pretty clear. Of course the Obama camp had prepare their attack plans on Romney and a few others...
      They were not prepared for Sarah.

      Even if I have very little faith in the NY times and even all this "an advisor said ", I do agree if I was McCain, I would have wanted to meet with her several times face to face before I make my VP decision.

      If he made a mistake, it will backfire. If she is great then McCain will be trusted even more.

      So that is not really an issue.

      Obama lack of experience keeps coming out because of all the things he has said and done during the last 18 months.
      It would have gone away otherwise.

      Big shows, parties, laundry list of promises fade away.
      People are looking for substance.

    • 4 years ago
  • krag2112
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      krag2112  
    • krag2112:

      I wish you were right and the things that are important would just rise to the top and things that are unimportant simply went away. But unfortunately I don't think that's how the real world works. Campaigns spend millions of dollars to make sure the points they want stay in the news and the the things they don't fade away. There are entire industries at work making that happen all day, every day. Would it be great if that weren't the case? Absolutely. But wishing for it doesn't make it so. People might be looking for substance but they are settling for less. Way less in fact. The last eight years are proof of that.

      As for how well she was vetted. The man at the center of the troopergate investigation, Walt Monegan, says he was never contacted by the McCain campaign. This has been in the news for weeks...that's not what I would call a thorough vetting. Combine that with one face to face meeting the day before he makes the selection and I don't think it's out of bounds to call this a rash decision.

      Maybe you are right, and if it's a mistake it will backfire on him and if she turns out great he'll smell like a rose. But isn't that an awfully low standard for what could be the most important decision for our country? What does it say about his judgment? Will he make all important decisions this way? Isn't this something voters should take into consideration when voting for or against him?

      I think it is.

      As for you opinion of Senator Obama's substance...I respectfully disagree.

    • 4 years ago
  • soleil10
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    • krag2112:

      I do not think you can be a US senator for 26 years just by making rash decisions,

      So far she has been an instant hit with many american because she seems a real person and people like a real person.

      John Mc Cain also has been crossing the country with townhall meetings listening to averge Americans while he has been treated as an underdog with great arrogance by the media.

      Obama has been too much choreographed. He is so guarded. We do not know who he really is.

      His staff use all the new media technology very well but their emails reveal how they feel about their audience.Their are so arrogant and dishonest. I get all their emails. I cant stand them even their are send in m own individual name.

      His "above my pay grade " answer to Rick Warren was a huge mistake and quite an insult to all americans.

    • 4 years ago
  • krag2112
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      krag2112  
    • krag2112:

      Wow. I couldn't disagree more. I can see that McCain has a folksy charm if you want to be taken in by that kind of thing...but I don't know how much substance there is behind the pandering and flag waving.

      As for Obama...you are entitled to your opinion, but I think you are out to lunch.

      But all of that is beside the point of this post. 26 years aside (though he does have a reputation for making rash decisions) do you not think that he could have made a more considered choice for VP. Even if in the end he still choose Palin...and do you not worry about that judgment? If you were making that decision, is that how you would go about it?

    • 4 years ago
  • soleil10
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      soleil10  
    • krag2112:

      We are too removed from the real situation to know how his decision was really made.

      The media do nto really know either. They cant read his mind even if they want us to belief they are in the know.

      Depending on their partisan opinion people wil give him the benefit of the doubt, wait and see and oher will ridicule and try to sabotage his decision.

      I am ashamed that some have even attacked Sarah Palin 16 years old daughter and accused her mother to be the grand mother of her last child.

      Our first reaction is usually from our guts, then emotional or rational depending who we are. It is like speed dating if you will

      The reaction from republicans has been WOW !!! From democrats it has been Oh NO !!!

    • 4 years ago
  • krag2112
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      krag2112  
    • krag2112:

      Ha. I'm not sure it was "Oh No". There were a lot of "What was he thinking" and from both sides of the aisle.

      And with all due respect...saying that we can't really know what the process was is a cop out. You don't seem to mind making judgments about Obama based on media coverage...but somehow we shouldn't apply the same standard to McCain. Come on.

      We know these facts. He had met her once and only the day before the selection and we know that nobody from the McCain camp ever spoke to the man at the center of the troopergate investigation. There are also now reports that nobody ever did a search of her local newspapers archives. That is vetting 101.

      Now...I'll ask you again (maybe the third time will be the charm). Do you think that is the way an important decision like this should be made? Is this how you would go about it?

    • 4 years ago
  • huntre
  • soleil10
  • krag2112
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      krag2112  

    • Anyone who tells you that "Sam Palin" would have been picked as the VP nominee is trying to sell you a bridge to nowhere (which Sarah Palin was for before she was against). Clearly McCain made this pick for political reasons. How is that putting country first?

    • 4 years ago
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