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Saakashvili "planned S. Ossetia invasion" says ex-minister

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Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili had long planned a military strike to seize back the breakaway region of South Ossetia but executed it poorly, making it easy for Russia to retaliate, Saakashvili's former defence minister said.

Irakly Okruashvili, Georgia's leading political exile, said in a weekend interview in Paris that the United States was partly to blame for the war, having failed to check the ambitions of what he called a man with democratic failings.

Saakashvili's days as president were now numbered, he said.

The former defence minister's remarks are significant because Saakashvili has always maintained Russia started the war by invading his country. The Georgian president said he handed EU leaders last week "very strong proof" that Moscow was to blame, though he did not give details.

But Okruashvili, a close Saakashvili ally who served as defence minister from 2004 to 2006, said he and the president worked together on military plans to invade South Ossetia and a second breakaway region on the Black Sea coast, Abkhazia.

"Abkhazia was our strategic priority, but we drew up military plans in 2005 for taking both Abkhazia and South Ossetia as well," Okruashvili said.

There was no immediate reaction from Saakashvili's officials to his remarks.

While in office, Okruashvili was an outspoken hawk, overseeing a military buildup and calling for Georgia to take back South Ossetia -- his birthplace -- by force.

But in the interview he fiercely criticized Saakashvili's handling of the war, which he said was launched in haste, without diplomatic support and failed to take account of a build-up of Russian forces in the region.

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  • liberate_America
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      liberate_America  
    • Check out the video on this page:http://www.vz.ru/society/2008/9/16/208504.html

      just scroll down until you see the color screen with Russia.ru on it. Click the screen and you will see some of the Georgian military using the "Grad" surface to surface rocket systems on the city of Thinzval. Watch it to the end. The video was downloaded from a Georgian soldier that got dead.

    • 3 years ago
  • liberate_America
  • diode
  • Walks_in_Storms
  • mjsmith11
  • Emil_G
  • mjsmith11
  • dissimulator
  • mjsmith11
  • dissimulator
  • mjsmith11
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      mjsmith11  
    • mjsmith11:

      Me too. Republicans, Independents, non-voters, and even Democrats are Americans too. As an American, how do you feel about one of our allies and fellow Democracy being invaded by the Russian military? I myself feel that we must stand up to this aggression and also not let it continue.

    • 3 years ago
  • dissimulator
  • mjsmith11
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    • mjsmith11:

      I am fighting the Russians with the greatest weapon possible. I am fighting the Russians with the same weapon that brought down the Soviet Empire. I am fighting the Russians with the TRUTH.

    • 3 years ago
  • Emil_G
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      Emil_G  
    • mjsmith11:

      LOL! "The truth", the truth is what is written in this article, and is not what Saakashvili and Bush say.

      BTW, "the truth" had nothing to do with the end of the SU.

    • 3 years ago
  • nkeg87
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    • mjsmith11:

      First, it depends who you ask if Georgia invaded it own country. Most of the world would say they did but some people, including those living in the region consider it independent. Which is the problem to begin with. Georgia wants them back. They dont want to be back. Georgia invaded them and began attacking. Then Russia jumped in to stop the attack...
      Check out the current link liberate_America posted or do a bit of research on various international news websites.
      I did. Some of them have strangely different interpretation on what actually happened.
      Personally...I think Georgia was in the wrong. And Russia was merely acting to protect the regions Georgia attacked.

    • 3 years ago
  • tweets972
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • The sooner we get the USA to stop deciding who is to be the leader of other countries, the better. The sooner we get the USA to stop placing obedient puppet tyrants in other countries, the better. The sooner we get the USA to stop helping phony democracies to try to grab lands not really belonging to them, the better. The sooner we get the USA to stop destroying other countries so as to steal their natural resources, the better. Etc., etc.

    • 3 years ago
  • synclaire
  • mjsmith11
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  
    • But since media writes history now...

      "The American people don't read." - Former CIA director Allen Dulles, speaking about how the American people would respond to the inconsistencies in the Warren Commission report on the JFK assasination

      Six media giants are significant beneficiaries of the current social structure around the world, and any upheaval in property or social relations—particularly to the extent that it reduces the power of business—is not in their interest. They serve their advertisers. That is their raison d’etre.

      “At least 22 American news organizations had employed American journalists who were also working for the CIA, and nearly a dozen American publishing houses printed some of the more than 1,000 books that had been produced or subsidized by the CIA. When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its media agents what to write, William Colby replied, ‘Oh, sure, all the time.”

      PS : Check out Carl Bernstein’s 1970s Rolling Stone article on the CIA’s stranglehold on the US media, which has gotten far worse since then:
      http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/cia_press.html

      Soooo...

      "We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane." - Jules Carlysle

    • 3 years ago
  • synclaire
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      synclaire  
    • Why the hell are our politicians acting like Georgia was invaded unprovoked when they started all this shit? Pledged 1billion for Georgia but haven't even fixed New Orleans and only pledged 10million for Haiti who has millions of refugees and thousands dead. There is seriously something wrong here...I smell oil!!

    • 3 years ago
  • AntiFacistCanuck
  • DJSoundBored
  • WhiteNoise
  • neocongo
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      neocongo  
    • "When we met President Bush in May 2005, we were told directly: don't involve yourself in a military confrontation. We won't be able to help you militarily."

      and yet more recently

      "Saakashvili's offensive only aimed at taking Tskhinvali, because he thought the U.S. would block a Russian reaction through diplomatic channels."

      He thought that or he was told that? Enter old white haired dude in a baseball cap.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • TWO-PRONGED OPERATION

      "The original plans called for a two-pronged operation entering South Ossetia, taking Tskhinvali, the Roki Tunnel and Java," he said, referring respectively to the regional capital, the main border crossing between Russia and the rebel region, and another key town.

      "Saakashvili's offensive only aimed at taking Tskhinvali, because he thought the U.S. would block a Russian reaction through diplomatic channels."

      "But when the U.S. reaction turned out to be non-existent, Saakashvili then moved troops toward the Roki tunnel, only to be outmaneuvered by the Russians," he said.

      Russia responded to the Georgian attack on Tskhinvali by pouring troops and tanks through the Roki tunnel into South Ossetia, routing the Georgian army. Okruashvili said that outcome was inevitable.

      "After 2006 we didn't have the possibility for success by military means... the Russians had repositioned and improved their military infrastructure in the North Caucasus, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia -- and obviously they did it for us."

      Okruashvili said the Georgian president could have ordered his army to defend several key towns from the Russians but "let the Russians in to avoid criticism and appear more of a victim".

      Washington had always made clear to the Georgian leadership that it would not support an invasion, Okruashvili added.

      "When we met President Bush in May 2005, we were told directly: don't involve yourself in a military confrontation. We won't be able to help you militarily."

      Okruashvili, 34, fled to Europe in 2007 after imprisonment in Georgia, where he faced corruption charges he denied, saying they were intended to punish him for criticizing the president.

      In March, a Georgian court sentenced him to 11 years in prison in absentia, but he was granted asylum in France where last week a court rejected Tbilisi's extradition request.

      Okruashvili said Washington was partly to blame for the war because it uncritically supported Saakashvili despite his growing authoritarianism.

      "There were no checks and balances. The institutions he created all revolved around him. Lack of criticism from the U.S. allowed him to go too far," he said.

      Okruashvili said the Georgian president should now resign or face possible prosecution for ordering the war and for signing a "disgraceful" EU-brokered ceasefire plan which he said gave Russia a much stronger claim on the two rebel regions.

      "(Saakashvili) must be held accountable and resign. If he steps down, he shouldn't be prosecuted. But if he doesn't it will lead to criminal charges against him," Okruashvili said.

      Propelled to the forefront of the opposition when the charges brought against him helped spark mass demonstrations in Tbilisi, Okruashvili said he hoped the coming anniversary of those protests would rally the president's critics.

      "November 7th will be a test. We'll see how much the opposition is able to mobilize," he said.

      In the French capital since January, Okruashvili plans to come back to his homeland soon.

      "I will return within a year, even if it means risking jail. But in the meantime I will try to create the right conditions. Saakashvili's days are numbered."

    • 3 years ago
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