Voter purges in 6 states may violate law

A few months back I e mailed an acquaintance knowing she had been a poll worker and I was interested in becoming involved. Here is the answer that was given to me. I did not correct the grammar, it is as it was sent to me. This is a good and decent person who wanted to be of service. Here is the e mail:
******************************
poll worker pays $105 if you attend the training. (some people don't. they make $85, plus the training is USEFUL.)
it is deceptively simple work--i say deceptive, because if you get an inept or crazy lady (or both like I did!) as the poll manager, at the end of the day, they may have you going crazy during closing up time. (this lady didn't keep tabs on the number of ballots matching the number of people voting. not my job, but it became MY headache.) it is a LONG day, but there are two one hour breaks, IF YOU TAKE THEM. I enjoyed it overall and plan to do it again, but will NOT get co-opted by an inept supervisor this time!
mostly you will be way smarter than the other workers. one BIG thing to watch out for: NO POLITICAL TALK ALLOWED. including the radio in the background. you can request the polling place near your home. it's actually kind of fun, being of service and part of the election, and all that.
*********************************************
So this is from someone who did it and I thought it would be appropriate for this story, which, is wonderfully done. Thank you. Private Ibber.

Wait, I'm confused. Voting actually matters?

Man! You people warm my heart! and here I have been feeling like a tin hatter and afraid to shout my fears too loud about loosing another election to Republican election fraud!

Thank you so much for being on it all you people! OMG I am not ALONE!!!!!

Seriously, I write, I talk, I carry signs, stick bumper stickers, I campaign, I phone bank, I have volunteered to be a poll judge...I am doing what I can and way deep inside, I feel good! I have always had really good intuition, and when GW stole the election the first time, I immediately knew we would be going to war. This time, I think we are going to get the thieving Republicans out of office and we will be ok as a nation in the world.

BUT--it will take all of the pressure the non-thieving, non-murdering people can bring to bear to make it happen. First we have to win this election and leave Palin and McCain in the dust, THEN, we have to push Obama and Biden to more progressive policies, we need a groundswell of demand for a Green New Deal, no holds barred.

Then we need to purge the national and state offices of all the corrupt bastards who are stealing our future. Make those elitist thieves pay back the money they stole from us if they have to sell their 7 houses to do it. Evict their asses and build a nation for the benefit of the people.

AND...if the election is stolen, we must resist the coming police state. Stop shopping and bring their corporate masters to their knees.

And thanks for Free For All! I hadn't seen it and will share.

Peace and prosperity to you all.

I think Stalin had the whole voting thing summed up pretty well.

LOL, this whole website is left bias, where have you been.

Why is McCain's pic on this post? that is bias.

I wonder if ACORN had anything to do with this? if that is the case it should be Obama's picture.

Senator John McCain is an angry old white man, who is losing his pickled mind.

Are you serious
This has happened ever since forever
The thing is when people act like it's new

You ever heard of the reconstruction
Or The race riots of 1919 and the 20's

Listen world. Black people have been saying this since 1870. 138 years. Did you think we were all lying for that long.

Now that you're aware it is real. The real question is, what are you going to do about it?

my triplilates turned 18 they are going to vote democratic not just because I am, they are tirered of the repubs.and the wars and money matters we had to sell our house at a lost just to get them in school no more bank loans but u know what i would do anything for all my kids. god help us all in november because the repubs are going to pull some sort of crap again..

yea, i would think not letting people vote would be illegal

How can we create an independent 3rd party system to verify votes with physical receipts using an online accounting system to tally the results.

With all do respect, I don't trust those running our country to be Americans anymore or else they wouldn't have voted for the bailout of the rich against the wishes of the people they were sworn to protect.

Throw all the other nonsense on there and I don't trust them to tell me what time of day it is, so how am I supposed to trust the elections to be legit, much less that the 2-party system is legit in the first place?

Dear friends,

Our country is no longer free. This is the same nonsense that started the Revolution that created America in the first place. Those people were heros, the people they defeated were lost to history. Our government no longer represents us, so why should we tolerate it one second longer?

Why are most complaining that this is a GOP caused problem? Show me where the GOP is responsible for the voting problems mentioned in this story?

Greg Palast. Look him up. He's a journalist who's been the proverbial voice in the wilderness for years. Voter fraud? Disproportionately affecting democratic voters? Duh! Happens every election cycle. Another trick is number of machines they allocate to precincts. More where the money is and less where the money isn't, even if there are more people where the money isn't. The result is longer lines. Longer lines mean the likelyhood that people who want to vote will not be able to. People got responsiblities, they can't wait, the don't get to vote.

Then of course there are the types of machines. Again the faulty machines are allocated to the areas most likely to vote Democrat.

Keep your peepers peeping, and go check out Greg Palast.

Does anyone know how these polling places are staffed?

How do they pick the people who determine if you're "on the list" or not? Could I volunteer and then just tell all the Republicans that, oops, you're not on the list, sorry, here's a provisional ballot that actually doesn't get counted? Seriously, can I just volunteer and do that? Does any jackass off the street who volunteers get the position? Are there any checks and balances in the entire system or is the whole thing pretty much run by retired men and women with no supervision?

Who actually gets to be one of the people "counting" the votes? Again, is this all volunteer? Are they paid positions? How do you actually get one of those plumb "vote counting" positions?

Who supervises the vote counters?

Is there actually a specific person that watches to see if someone tosses some in the garbage?

Is the same person supervising the count the exact same person hand-picking the "volunteers" who do the counting?

This whole process seems really half-assed and amateur and no one really has any idea how it works, who gets what job duties and who is really in charge of each individualized local mess.

When the lib propaganda doesn't work it must be a fix. I like the one about being educated. That's a hoot. Edumacated by Beavis and Butthead.

How did Moore, Whoopi, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, CNN, SNL, and the whole crowd not beat W in 2004?

How did all those dead, felons and illegals voting not get Kerry elected?

How come Oblaba can't close the deal if he's the greatest thing since Jesus?

Because the majority of Americans are wise to who the lemmings and brain dead are. Conservatives have been slammed by everybody in your useful idiont world and you even managed to get control of Congress and you still can't figure it out.

What a bunch of maroons!

I think we should organize local places where people can go after they vote, or meet up after polling places close. Numbers talk! If millions of people are stationed thoughout America, demanding a clean election, they would listen!

Republicans should not be misled. America is too important for Party over Country. Sarah Palin and John McCain are dangerous for our future! They dont have a plan, they have an attack, using you! They wont protect you anymore than George W. has, they will just use you. The ends will justify their means, in their minds. Dont be sheep! Dont go off the cliff!

What I find most interesting about this upload is that there is a picture of John McCain included with the text. What the hell does he have to do with this? By showing his picture with the story headline it's falsely and unfairly insinuating that McCain had something to do with these mistakes;.

I just want to say if this government tries to cheat me or anyone else out of a vote again. I'm going to really lose it. We as a country need to have mass riots if they try to pull this one us for the third time. This whole election is just heartbreaking. And I for one am not going to take another lost votes, or recount situation. We are not the Nazis we deserve better than this. We pay too much for education to let this happen again. I'm not a freaking puppet, and I won't be treated like one.

They can steal the election WITHOUT PEOPLE TAKING TO THE STREETS! Right now on CNN, the are spinning race -- CODE: If McCain wins, its because America is racist. SO, IF MCCAIN WINS, IT WONT BE BECAUSE THE RACE WAS STOLLEN, ITS BECAUSE BARACK IS BLACK! Perfect cover for ELECTION THEFT!

They cant steal a landslide!

To all the Republicans who believed the spin in 2004, hows that working for ya? Was your 401Ks protected? Or are you actually victims of George W. and his cronies, just like the rest of us? WAKE UP, they arent protecting you either, your the same victim as the rest of us!

If they declare Martial Law you wont get a sign saying "I voted for John McCain"! It wont matter, they wont need you anymore, you will be expendable too!

i really hope they don't think they could steal the election this time without people taking it to the streets.

Well, I'm sayin' it again - if the exit polling results deviate from the actual vote counts, especially in the "swing states" - we need to be in the streets. Not violently, but overwhelmingly, in numbers, to send the message that we are not buying it! And, prior to the actual election, offer your support to your local campaign office, in any way required. I do think a landslide is possible, but I also believe that short of that, McScary and his merry band of men will steal it, if they can. And, I too want to know what's being done right now about these "mistakes". There should be monitors in every polling place in every state where these suspected problems may occur, documenting and challenging anything that seems "odd".

Here we go again....it will be time to take to the streets if the Republicans fix another election..two is enough.

"The exclusion APPEARS to violate federal law"?! What the hell? Why do I feel so much smarter than most of the people running this country?

Shocking...

I voted by mail last night and am so afraid it will be thrown away or not counted when things like this are happening. This is not how we are supposed to fell in a true democracy.

This is a tactic that has allowed President Dumb Nuts to have an 8 year stay in government housing, aka the Projects for White Men.....

You are kidding yourself if you think we live in a democratic nation. Democracy is for sale. When it takes $100 Million to RUN for President of the US, then this is not a democratic nation. When votes are not counted or are stolen by Debolt, then we do not live in a democratic nation. Who pays $100M for a job that pays less than $300k a year?

I am not shocked by this political gesturing as 'My Friend' Papa POW would categorize it. Bottom line is the US Government is for sale...just in. The US has been sold to China!

Seriously I can't understand for the life of me how we are able to 'think' this system we call democratic should be replicated in other nations. Poor Iraqis. To bad you were born in a country with such vast natural resources...... Move to Africa, the US never 'liberate' those people.

let this article be a lesson to anybody naive enough to actually believe we have "democracy" in this nation

They may not be able to steal a landslide? The only way we are going to avoid "Grand Theft Votes" is if Americans with voices (those who get on mainstream media) take the opportunity to expose the wrongs which are going on. Someone has to stop the spin! Exposing spin is a good way to stop it! Shame the spinners whenever given the opportunity! Accountability and shame today is the only way.

I HAVE TO CAP ON THIS ONE BECAUSE, IT SEEM AS THOU THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM GETTING OUT TO VOTE IN ANY WAY THEY CAN FOR FEAR THAT MR. OBAMA JUST COULD OR PERHAP'S GET A LANDSIDE VICTORY, PURPOSELY AIMED AT THE WHO JUST MIGHT VOTE MR.OBAMA, MY QUESTION IS WHY NOW WHEN IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE ELECTION UMH? MAKE YOU WONDER,BUT THEY ARE UP TO TRICK 'S AND SCEAM'S.FOR ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE REGISTERED FIX IT FOR THE ONE'S THAT HAVE NOT GET REGISTERED TODAY NOW!!!!!!!OBAMA

This sounds much to sketchy to be mere coincidence...
We must not let history repeat itself... We the people must make sure this does not happen, again.

This seems like a very convenient "accident" to me...

im movein to canada if the republicans steal this one too!!

Who is in monitoring these groups? We can't have the New York Times be our detectives, especially when the last 2 elections have been so close.

Don't just say "we're screwed". YES, GET PISSED, but also, use your anger and that energy to do something about it! It has a bigger impact! Get out there like UrbanGypsy! Fax, call, email local papers, make sure as many people you know are aware of this. Get the word out everywhere. We can do something about this!

surprise surprise! another way to cheat the USA out of the people choice .. and you all know majority of the voters are democrats .. THEY VIOLATED NO LAW, DO RESEARCH AND WAKE UP!!!

VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!

If you think that the Courts will adjudicate this issue to my satisfaction, think twice. Eight years ago, the United States Supreme Court (read Sandra Day, a lifelong Republican),cast the tie-breaking 5-4 vote) that ruled George into office against the votes and will of the People. We have lived with the rollback of all kinds of rights and liberties since then. The latest was the decision that makes unequal pay for women Federal law.

Remember: the next President gets to nominate the Supreme Court Justice whose decisions will affect all aspects of our lives. This includes everything from civill liberties and the freedoms enumerated in the First Amendment. Got a problem pregnacy? The Right to Privacy could be taken away if the Court swings one more vote toward the right. Winni

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I just wanna rip all of my hair out!!!!!!

We're screwed.

I swear if they steal this election from us I will be very pissed. I will go out to the streets and let everyone know that I am not going along with their cheating...

republicans are trying to steal another election..... just like bush did..

America is the country which has the most people in prison. How can we have so many people in prison, while letting vote tampering criminals go free? Vote tampering hurts us all! Accountability and shame should be brought back to our voting process. People have written books, made movies, yet the problem persists. Why? Money talks!

Karl Rove politics should not be able to move forward. Its time Americans stand up and change our course back to American Politics and hold those responsible accountable! Stop moving along!

come on man this is getting old fast. It is time to get it right. !!!

I've seen recent evidence that judges on state and national levels who used to support this administration (many, hand-picked by it) are changing their tune and, thankfully, following the rules of Constitutional Law instead of GWB's.
Perhaps, I'm feeling optimistic but, I've good reason to believe that the election won't be "stolen", this time out.
I hope that I'm correct in this gut assessment.

Ever notice you hardly ever see Republicans telling people to get out and vote? When's the last time you saw a Republican PSA pushing people to vote? Wonder why that is?

Not for the first time and it will not be the last.

The powers that be are getting this scam off to a fine art

Greed. Power. Corruption. Take your pick.

God bless American democracy and freedom

I'm from Florida... I know all about voter fraud.

Black senior citizens in Tampa Bay got the good ol' "you're a felon," response when they were trying to vote.

Isn't it too late now to stop the Republicans?

They've basically already tossed millions of voters into the garbage......any way to gaurantee those voters will be restored by election day?

No.

They've already told students in swing states that if they vote they will lose their health insurance.

Anyway to "undo" that damage before election day?

Probably not.

They (the Republicans) have already sent out mass mailings telling people that if they show up to vote and have an outstanding parking ticket and/or fail to provide proof of citizenship on demand they will be instantly jailed. INSTANTLY JAILED! (God love the Republicans!)

Any gaurantee THAT damage will be undone by election day?

Again, probably not.

They Republicans will most likely win because of the simplicity of their strategy --- they will take a baseball bat and smash the knees of the voters and then, oh, about 5 months after the election the Dems will shout, "Hey! That may not be entirely ethical!"

Of course we'll be shouting that AFTER all the damage has been doen and McCain and Palin are being sworn in.

We waited way, way, waaaay to long to address these illegal voter supression tactics and I think its probably too late to effectively do anything about it.

In order to speed up voting and avoid long lines we might just as well fill out a ballot at home and toss it in the garbage ourselves....save some time by cutting out the Republican Middle Men.

I know, I know. I'm cynical.

This is exactly why people who simply say "YOU MUST VOTE" infuriate me. They haven't a clue.

HACKING DEMOCRACRY is also a phenomenal documentary on voter fraud.

History repeats itself... honestly this is making me sick with how much C&@P our government does and gets away with. so lets see if the American people will stand for another presidential election like the previous 2.

....I tried to come up with a witty anecdote to describe something as crooked as the voting system in America....pretzel...no...fishing line in the back of an old pickup after going down a dirt road for 20 miles....no....it seems like it is in a league of its own.....if this next election is blatantly corrupted....I do hope that the American people Will rise up and stop this mess...once and for all....America is on the edge of a grand precipice...if it goes over the edge it Will take with it every great person that gave their life to making this country great....with it......Golden Ruler....Will......

Purging the voter rolls is GOP-speak for denying folk og their right to vote. The GOP will always be over-zealous. If they thought they could get it through state legislatures, the GOP would probably push for minimum income requirements. That would probably remove the last barrier to the GOP goal of limiting the right to vote to those demographics that are most like to vote GOP.

If the GOP should ever succeed in this goal, there is then no longer any point in having elections. Just let a GOP committee of mucky mucks pick whomever promises them the biggest tax cuts and the biggest MIC contracts.

Historically, the courts have been entirely too sympathetic to the GOP with some notable exceptions.

For example, the high court ruled that a state that exercised general criminal, taxing, and other jurisdiction over persons on certain federal enclaves within the State, the Court held, could not treat these persons as nonresidents for voting purposes.

An issue that surfaced just recently dates back to 1771. It involves whether persons in the military can vote in their home district if they are away, say, bogged down in Iraq. What a way to win elections --start a war of aggression (as Bush did) and send all the poor folk (who might be tempted to vote Demo) off to war where they cannot vote.

Often the reasons for 'disqualifying' a potential voter is a political issue. Arbitrary income requirements would be a good example. Overall --the GOP strategy is to prevent potential Democrats from voting. How much easier their goal, if they could just limit the right to vote to their elite country clubbers!!!!!

Humm.....seems as If I have heard this before? Not the old if you can't beat 'em cheat'em routine!

Americans have not the time or patience for politics a la Bush again, what's next the hanging chad problems?

We will not stand for anything other than a legitimate and fair election. Two stolen elections are quite enough.

This time if there is any hint of malfeasance we will demand a recount and accountability.

And we wonder why our country is near financial ruin.