Post-Debate Obama

Well Im a 54 and I like Obama. I have a job, a mortgage, a car payment, pay my taxes and throughly believe that Obama is a far better choice that Mr. McCain. My reasoning? Well, look around. Can you honestly say you are better off than you were eight years ago (assuming you arent a CEO that retired with a golden parachute after running his company into the ground). Can you say our standing in the world community is better than eight years ago? That our economy is better? That we are less divided? That you are wealthier? Really, do you still buy into that foolish addage that wealth will "trickle down" (one of the most insulting concepts Ive ever heard of) if we hand out enough tax breaks to the rich?

If your main concern is that Obama will raise taxes and spread the wealth around consider this. One of the main differences between Democratic and Republican administrations is, whereas Democratic ones tend to raise taxes and we feel the pinch immediately, Republicans BORROW the money and place the burden of increased taxes on future generations to pay to bill. Then when the future rolls around it takes another democratic administration to acknowledge the debt of prior Republican adminstrations and raise taxes to pay off the bill. It's perfect really. That way the Republicans can always claim they never raise taxes and point the finger at democratic administrations that are forced to even though the primary reason they raise taxes is to pay off Republcan debt.

You dont have to take my word on this but how about that of a hard core Republican, David Cay Johnston. Mr. Johnson wrote two books "Perfectly Legal" and "Free Lunch" Both books reveal that the vast majority of middle class taxes don't flow downward to social welfare,Medicaid and the poor, but upwards to ultra wealthy corporations and individuals. Need I point out that we were just requried to piss away 810 billion tax dollars recently, not on the poor, but Wall Street. Another 25 billion in loans went to the auto industry and another 250 billion set aside to buy stocks from banks that were stupid enough to over invest themselves in sub prime mortgages. Our money flows UP not DOWN. What Obama wants to do is rectify some of that by investing in the one thing that has always made our country great, the people.

Mark701, that was probably the most succinct and accurate description of why Obama should be our next president. I apparently am only a young simpleton bamboozled by the glitzy media. It's good to know that wisdom can also agree Obama as does us gullible ones.

But seriously, thank you.

Some of the older members of our generation forget what it's like to struggle to find your place in the US. When one has everything in order and has good healthcare and retirement plans in order, maybe, just maybe, they aren't thinking about how less fortunate people live their lives. How it's not always easy getting ahead when you have to work a menial job with no benefits because you couldn't afford college.

I could use some breaks to pay for school and people tell me to have a kid and that's how I can get more governmental aid for college. WHAT?! I don't want to bring a child into the world until I'm financially healthy.

I make money and I pay taxes and I want to help my mother to get health care and my sister pay for her school and pay for my own. I want my grandmother to go to the doctor when she's ailing.

What's wrong with any of that?

The troll will never respond to such a reasonable post.

All the responses are completely correct.

Yep - Obama is intelligent. Obviously he's smart enough to fool a lot of people. Of course, the mainstream media knows you SHEEPLE will believe everything you hear, too. The media doesn't question why Obama can't produce his birth certificate to even prove he was born in the US. The media doesn't question ANYTHING about Obama. I hope you young people learn (before it's too late) to think for yourselves. Do your own research - listen to another point of view. Don't just think what Hollywood tells you to think.

Tonithetigress64, then explain this to me. Why are retired people also one of the largest demographic groups that support Obama?

LOL - talk about a blind stereotype, tomithetigress64.
what'd this turn into, a day-care center? i didn't know there was an max age limit.

The truth is an attack? Your brain has been attacked - by the media! You're brainwashed. I've got a bridge to sell you.....

Interesting opinion. Please provide us with some additional information to back up this assertion.

8-)

In my gut, I feel mo1y might be a little correct on this...How to prove it, I wouldn't have the time, ability or energy to waste on it.

There is another PHD dissertation I would like to see investigated before I am really too old to care less, and that would be "The Wealthy Expressing Political Dissatisfaction By Voluntarily Saving To Create An Economic, Political Down Turn."

The Repubs were mad at Carter, if every wealthy one of them stopped buying for about 24 months prior to the election--"Well, there you go again."

The Dems were furious with George the 1st, therefore, if their wealthy stopped buying for 24 months prior to "It's the economy stupid", good-by George! Hello Bill!

The Dems are really mad at George the 2nd...Man, not only will we stop buying, we won't force anyone pay their mortgages! Can't pay them---Hurrah! Its over-regulation stupid! But we will call it under-regulation! How about calling it poor financial planning with too much loose "vote getting" money flying around.

Promoting home ownership is a great political vote getter, just remember even the poor have to have the ability to live within their means...Man do I know this first hand, I watched a home sell three times to young families with "special financing" before one couple/bank was able to get their acts together and effectively secure it. I believe each transaction to purchase this property was less until...SUCCESS!

It always makes me wonder, because the economy seems to be picking up steam right now -- perhaps because the "political damage" has been accomplished? Nah, this could never happen. Who could be that mean?

WisconsinNorm,Its a bit difficult to follow what your saying but it appears you're claiming that the economic downturns are due primarily because the rich and/or others refuse to buy and create an economic downturn.
Cant say as I agree with you. There really are not enough rich people in the country, where, if they stopped buying stuff it would create an economic slowdown. From my observations the only thing that slows down buying is an economy thats already going sour for one reason or another. People who are afraid they are going to lose their jobs (or have already lost them) typically spend less. Wealthier people might choose to restrict their investments for fear if losing money in the market. You observations seem accurate but I think youve put the cart before the horse in this case. In other words people dont slow their spending in protest, to show their disproval of a particular administration, they slow their spending in response to an economy that already bad and it results in political backlash.