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Greenspan says financial crisis a "once-in-a-century" event

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Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan says the current financial crisis is a ``once-in-a-century credit tsunami'' which will have a severe impact on the U.S. economy, driving unemployment higher.
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48 comments // Greenspan says financial crisis a "once-in-a-century" event

  • privateibber
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      privateibber  
    • It would do anyone well on this subject to know that Alan Greenspan was a devotee of Ayn Rand. A woman who believed that altruism was the greatest curse to the American way of life. Google Ayn and Greenspan.
      Just watching him sit there and get grilled by Waxman was a joke. He is flabbergasted! Why, I never would have ever thought this. Alan will go down in history as the poster boy for INSULT TO INJURY...IN YOUR FACE....INSULT TO INJURY. These hearings are a joke. WHY? Because they are just little mini maya culpas. There is no justice.
      I remember when our President met Greenspan for the first time. He was leaving the meeting place and they were coming down some stairs. Bush quipped "He really knows what he's doing," with the excitement of a child that finds out that he'll get fifty ponies for Christmas. He was really pleased with what he heard. Why don't they play that clip? Maybe I can find it or someone else here that isn't too sickened to go any further.

    • 3 years ago
  • abteen
  • 5thElement
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      5thElement  
    • This crisis is really scarey, whoever is responsible im sure doesn't understand to the fullest the seriousness of this problem. Im sure that guy is chilling in the Bahamas on his million dollar yaht and could care less that everyone else is about to starve.

    • 3 years ago
  • walski
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      walski  
    • Oh it's Bush, no it's Greenspan's fault, blah, blah, blah, Here's a thought, TAKE SOME F*N RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF. Our debt is not from predatory lenders, it's from delinquent borrowers!

      I'd like to see one of our candidates do that, take some ownership of what their party has done wrong.

      Early 90's America worked and paddled to catch the communication/dotcom wave we road through the decade, which is why we seemed to have a surplus and then the world caught up, business plateau'd and we crashed into the beach. Now it is time to collect our crap and get back to work.

      AMERICA; HOME OF THE BRAVE, FREE AND NEVER OUR FAULT

    • 3 years ago
  • pentupentropy
  • Ragan
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      Ragan  
    • This old F--T caint count. He also suffers from lack of history. The Stock market crash of 1929 was number 1 and the October surprise of 1987 was number 2 and today is number 3. This doesnt count the other times when the market bottomed out but was not considered a crash. With these big financial wizards counting, Im quite surprised that we still call it a stock market instead of a pyramid scheme. But all Capitolist Pyramid Schemes crash sooner or later. As long as the banker can rig the game, the players will pay. so this will not be the last crash only another of many to come and as usual the Taxpayer will continue to pay.

    • 3 years ago
  • Leonidis
  • HolyCity2012
  • willyb
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      willyb  
    • Everyone is happy while people are making money. They only get angry when the bubble bursts. This is a simple case of instant gratification winning over caution. Many people saw the signs, and just as many ignored them to get back to the feast.

      If you want to see conspiracies here you can, but I think you are misguided.

    • 3 years ago
  • sleepnomore
  • pentupentropy
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      pentupentropy  
    • sleepnomore:

      True, he didn't. He's a lot less to blame than say... Clinton. However, the practice of distributing money based on current market conditions is left solely to the fed with little oversight by congress. The Fed knew what the conditions were, and while Greenspan was (I believe) a hawk, he tried to cut interest rates to many times in favor of slowing inflation when what we needed was for the Fed to step back and do what they need to so that the market could correct itself. Did we learn nothing from events as recent as the dot com bubble bursting?

    • 3 years ago
  • rubbersoul
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      rubbersoul  
    • From the Great Depression, to the stagflation of the seventies, to the burst of the dotcom bubble, and now this morgage meltdown, every economic downturn suffered by the country over the last 80 years can be traced to Federal Reserve policy. The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts. People!! the Fed does not work for the U.S. govt. or anybody but the few who control all these centralized banks.

      Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes the laws.
      -Mayer A. Rothschild

    • 3 years ago
  • pentupentropy
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      pentupentropy  
    • rubbersoul:

      So, so true. The Federal Reserve. What a great Christmas present THAT was.

      Isn't it funny too how comparable the Great Depression was compared to today's market? Same situation, same percentages, same banks, market fluctuatons... crazy stuff

    • 3 years ago
  • Hawkmang
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      Hawkmang  
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    • A "once-in-a-century" event that "Mr. Bubble" Greenspan and his ilk are responsible for. And now Congress is giving gasoline to his fellow arsonists Bernanke and Paulson.

      To revisit an essay by Murray Rothbard with an eloquent explanation of the cause and cure of economic depressions:
      "[Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises] pinpoints the blame for the [boom and bust business] cycle on inflationary bank credit expansion propelled by the intervention of government and its central bank. What does Mises say should be done, say by government, once the depression arrives? What is the governmental role in the cure of depression? In the first place, government must cease inflating as soon as possible. It is true that this will, inevitably, bring the inflationary boom abruptly to an end, and commence the inevitable recession or depression. But the longer the government waits for this, the worse the necessary readjustments will have to be. The sooner the depression-readjustment is gotten over with, the better. This means, also, that the government must never try to prop up unsound business situations; it must never bail out or lend money to business firms in trouble. Doing this will simply prolong the agony and convert a sharp and quick depression phase into a lingering and chronic disease. The government must never try to prop up wage rates or prices of producers' goods; doing so will prolong and delay indefinitely the completion of the depression-adjustment process; it will cause indefinite and prolonged depression and mass unemployment in the vital capital goods industries. The government must not try to inflate again, in order to get out of the depression. For even if this reinflation succeeds, it will only sow greater trouble later on. The government must do nothing to encourage consumption, and it must not increase its own expenditures, for this will further increase the social consumption/investment ratio. In fact, cutting the government budget will improve the ratio. What the economy needs is not more consumption spending but more saving, in order to validate some of the excessive investments of the boom.

      Thus, what the government should do, according to the Misesian analysis of the depression, is absolutely nothing. It should, from the point of view of economic health and ending the depression as quickly as possible, maintain a strict hands off, "laissez-faire" policy. Anything it does will delay and obstruct the adjustment process of the market; the less it does, the more rapidly will the market adjustment process do its work, and sound economic recovery ensue."
      http://mises.org/story/3127

      For more on former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan check out:
      Greenspan's Bubbles: The Age of Ignorance at the Federal Reserve by William A. Fleckenstein
      http://www.amazon.com/Greenspans-Bubbles-Ignorance-Federal-Reserve/dp/0071591583

    • 3 years ago
  • squeege
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      squeege  
    • Hawkmang:

      Wow! Reality check. Thank you. I still believe that Greenspan didn't knowingly (emphasis on knowingly) lead us into this problem, but those links were quite enlightening.

    • 3 years ago
  • Hawkmang
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • Yeah, unfortunately our lives are "once-in-a-century" events too. I would love to see a reality show of what these people's lives are like up close and personal.

    • 3 years ago
  • varettino
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      varettino  
    • I'm wondering why he didn't do something to prevent the so called "once-in-a-century" crisis, why there's no limit to the Power of the Financial (private) Market, why the State begin to worry 'bout it when it's almost too late? why?

    • 3 years ago
  • ninepounds6
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      ninepounds6  
    • A common thread in all these posts seems to be that people are stating that the financial meltdown is ALL his fault. Nobody here said that, but many have said it is partially his fault. And honestly, as long as he was the Fed, as involved as he was in the economy and decisions to adjust it, and being the one man in the country that is basically "in charge" of steering, advising on, and commenting on the economy, how on earth can me NOT be partially at fault?

      He himself admitted that he made grave mistakes! Why defend him? He of ALL people should have steeered us away from this mess!

    • 3 years ago
  • derk
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      derk  
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    • So it's Greenspan's fault that banks, insurance compalies and Wall Street got greedy? Please! He's just one f many selfish individuals who have placed themselves ahead of God, America, you, me and everyone.

      Here's a list of 9 culprits ... #1 is coming tomorrow and it will likely be our President.

    • 3 years ago
  • squeege
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      squeege  
    • "The longtime Fed chief acknowledged under questioning that he had made a "mistake" in believing that banks in operating in their self-interest would be sufficient to protect their shareholders and the equity in their institutions. Greenspan called it "a flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works." " In other words, he did not count on the greed that these banks and lendors thrive on. I may be totally wrong on this, but I don't believe Greenspan knowingly led us into this problem.

    • 3 years ago
  • sgwhites
  • squeege
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      squeege  
    • To say that Greenspan is responsible for our current finacial problems is absolutely absurd. There is much more to be said, but I just had to throw that out there. People blame random people some times, and it just seems so illogical.

    • 3 years ago
  • Ayahuasca2012
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      Ayahuasca2012  
    • squeege:

      THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS TO BLAME THEREFORE GREENSPAN IS TO BLAME!

      Sorry had to use caps to drill that in...

      The Federal Reserve is a scam pushed on the people of the United States to keep us in a form of permanent debt slavery. The banks run the whole show... time to wake up people.

      Some people are too naive to see it though.

    • 3 years ago
  • neckfire
  • ninepounds6
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      ninepounds6  
    • So this should be the second time it happened in his, right? I would have to lean towards the notion that this is very much his fault too, then.

    • 3 years ago
  • yeti
  • HolyCity2012
  • dankitti
  • div
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • Once in a century event? Wasn't the dotcom burst only 20 years ago?

      He's a fool and a dangerous one at that.

      This is NOT a once in a century event. This is what happens EVERY TIME you take out regulators, more commonly known as police, from the market. It creates bubbles and these bubbles burst because people are stupid and greedy.

      The whole thing was a game of hot potato, with everything trying to pass off the toxic debt before it exploded. Everyone knew and NO ONE CARED.

      With some basic regulation, things like that don't happen and really, no one is harmed by it.

      Greenspan is just a liar for his cause. He doesn't want to admit that for the umpteenth time in his life, his philosophy has blown up in his fucking face.

    • 3 years ago
  • Hawkmang
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      Hawkmang  
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    • Saladin:

      I'm sorry, Saladin. I do agree with you that Greenspan is a dangerous fool. But it was "regulation" in the form of the Federal Reserve (including the "Maestro" Greenspan), the Community Reinvestment Act etc. that lit the fuse for this financial crisis.

      Chart by MW Hodges with data from the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank and the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics// Grandfather Economic Report
      http://mwhodges.home.att.net/inflation.htm

    • 3 years ago
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • Saladin:

      Of course, your religion doesn't allow you to admit that deregulation caused the bubble burst. Even though essentially every bubble burst ever was caused by that exact same problem starting with Tulip Mania in 1637, you have to make up an excuse, any excuse, to continue worshiping the god of business.

      Ever since you agreed with Ron Paul saying that the founding fathers never intended for there to be a barrier between church and state, you've convinced me that libertarians are liars for their cause. No different than republicans.

      What you are is a right-wing marxist, you can never admit that your glorious philosophy is ever wrong because you've set it up as the ultimate truth.

      Go soak your head, the crisis was caused by a lack of oversight in Fannie and Freddie, Bush upping the ratio to 1 : 40 and predatory lending financial criminals supported by your "let the market police itself" fundamentalism.

      Libertarianism is not a legitimate political philosophy, it's a delusional anti-state system that doesn't give two shits about what happens to people in reality. You'd shake off child labor laws if you could

      I know you and I know your agenda, and you can go to hell.

    • 3 years ago
  • Hawkmang
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      Hawkmang  
    • Saladin:

      Saladin,

      First of all, I NEVER "agreed with Ron Paul saying that the founding fathers never intended for there to be a barrier between church and state." In fact, in a May 5th thread here on Current entitled "Ron Paul favors Obama over McCain" I said exactly the opposite:

      "I disagree with Paul's interpretation of separation of church and state and his views on pro-life as defending liberty."
      http://current.com/items/88934398_ron_paul_favors_obama_over_mccain

      And with all due respect, we are both certainly entitled to our own opinions but there is no need to delve into the arena of ad hominem arguments. There is no need for you to tell me to "go to hell." Indeed, it seems that the Republican and Democratic Parties will get us there soon enough. ;-)

      And I am not religious. Far, far from it. Though I would say, to borrow a phrase from Alexis de Tocqueville, "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

      With respect to your assertion that the crisis was caused by lack of oversight of Fannie and Freddie, I am forced to ask you, how did those entities come into existence in the first place? Were they not created by the government to fulfill it's unrealistic infatuation of homeownership for every single American ("regulation")? Here's a nice article entitled "Fannie, Freddie, Fascist" that gets more to the point.
      http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/fascist-creations-fdr.html

      And I'm not "right-wing" or left-wing. In an attempt to add some levity, libertarians have both wings which provide them an objective, birds-eye view of the situation with civil liberties in one talon and sound economics in the other. In contrast, it seems like the Republican right and the Democratic left are in their downward spiral with their lone wings. "Libertarianism is not a legitimate political philosophy?" Thomas Jefferson must be rolling in his grave.

    • 3 years ago
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • Saladin:

      I don't treat you as a legitimate political philosophy exactly because of this post.

      You pick out what you're going to respond against, post a couple of libertarian links and pretend to be innocent and above the whole thing. And this is the perfect example of that.

      "I'm not religious! Far from it!"

      Only a complete fool or a conniving person using a strawman would ever say something like that in response to my claim.

      I'm claiming that your beliefs about the market are so irrational that it MIGHT AS WELL be a religion.

      And that's why you didn't respond to my child labor comment either. Because libertarians have a sinister agenda that is not at all related to helping people or constructing good governments. It's about achieving a philosophical dream.

      And that's why I called you a right-wing marxist, because that's what you are.

      Libertarians are to anarchists what socialists are to communists.

      Why were Fannie and Freddie created? To help people get loans for houses! And it worked for a damn long time until neo-conservatives got their hands on it.

      Libertarian arguments are so embarrassingly predictable. Going to the founding fathers in an attempt to legitimize your business worshiping cult. Putting labels onto the dead as they are unable to refute your claims.

      Well the founding fathers agreed with the Federalization of our nation, how many libertarians agree with that?

      Oh that's right, libertarians don't admit to the public that they want to return to the articles of Confederacy.

      But I know that, I know all about your religion.

      And that's why I'm dismissive of your claims. Because you're just neo-cons that got kicked out of the Republican party for being atheists and anti-war.

    • 3 years ago
  • yeti
  • jrig35
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      jrig35  
    • This is so far from a once in a century event. This is an event that can be prevented by responsible financial decisions for the good of everyone, instead of a few people worrying about themselves.

    • 3 years ago
  • MeganMcKenzie
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      MeganMcKenzie  
    • Greenspan has been given deference he has not deserved. He has been long revered by some and yet when we look at the mess we are in he is even admitting that his belief in the industry policing itself was wrong. He and his cronies have controlled world economies for a long time. You can bet he and his friends aren't in the bloodbath the regular investor is caught in.

    • 3 years ago
  • ThinkTrue
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      ThinkTrue  
    • They think we're dumb enough to believe this is some freak accident that rarely happens. This was calculated and intentional, just like the Great Depression and every other financial bubble burst.

    • 3 years ago
  • HolyCity2012
  • frimer
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      frimer  
    • Brace your selfs for the real deal behind all this..
      This is a man made situation deliberately created in order to push a much bigger agenda. The implementation of the "Amero" and the creation of the "North America Union"

      Click the link for a full report on the issue

    • 3 years ago
  • Ayahuasca2012
  • Mark701
  • InformedTexan
  • bss05g
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      bss05g  
    • well he looks old enough to make a call about something that happens once every hundred years, seems kind of weak when your country has only been around a few hundred years.

    • 3 years ago
  • sleepnomore
  • Tori
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      Tori  
    • I wonder how or if Greenspan would have handled this whole thing differently had he still been head of the Federal Reserve.

    • 3 years ago
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