Community | October 31, 2008 | 179 comments

A quarter of Texans think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?

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DeliaTheArtist
"A University of Texas poll finds that in McCain-favoring Texas, 23% of voters believe that Barack Obama is a Muslim. This has been one of the campaign's most bizarre issues. The first question this raises is: so, what of it, are Muslims disqualified from being president? The "Obama is a Muslim" issue started during the Democratic primaries--Politico wrote about it way back in October 2007. Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo calls all this "McCain's Edge."

This certainly must be frustrating for the Obama campaign, which has spent a great deal of time explaining to the public that Obama is Christian. According to the University of Texas Poll, Obama convinced 45% of the 545 registered Texas voters they asked that he is a Protestant. Has another candidate for president ever had to spend so much time and effort reassuring the public over religion? It's enough to make JFK think that he had it easy over the Catholic issue.

Do nearly a quarter of Texas voters really believe that Obama is a Muslim? There's another possibility: McCain supporters using badly conceived polls as political weapons. If you ask people in a hardcore McCain state, a good number of them will says "Yes, Obama is a Muslim" whether they believe it or not, just to get the idea that Obama is a Muslim out there. All's fair in war and politics, after all.

Maybe "Is Barack Obama a Muslim?" just isn't that great a poll question. If that's the case, the 23% figure says more about inflamed passions in the final days of the race than it does about ignorance in Texas."

I can't believe people still think this!
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179 comments // A quarter of Texans think that Barack Obama is a Muslim?

  • aliquid_
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      aliquid_  
    • Ignorance is bliss -
      A small non-logical with a non-thought theory process has a effect to dwindle upon the mind will cause a huge catastophe for many in the feelings of guilt, ashamed, and isolation- In this case our country if things keep going ignored...

    • 3 years ago
  • Jennymw319
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      Jennymw319  
    • I am a single parent and I work two jobs to support my family. Financially I meet the criteria to be penalized and taken from because of this "Share the Wealth" issue. If we are going to Redistribute the Funds here, Why not get rid of the whole food stamp and medical card issue so that some people don't have an excuse to stay home and enjoy their extended vacation. Let's investigate the Social Security system to verify that the applicates under qualifying age actually deserve the Social Security benefits paid by the Taxpayers. There are middle class families here that do not qualify for food stamps or social security and they do not have health care...What about these people? Do we all have to quit work to be better off? I would take a little less money to have a lifetime of extended vacations with my family while you guys pay if you like. I think the bible says, "If you don't work, you don't eat"!Also why would we change the constitution and the American Flag and the National Anthem again? I don't think our right to bear arms should be stripped from us. The bad guys will still be buying guns off the back of some truck somewhere, but what about the honest americans? Shit out of luck huh? Let's vote to weaken the United States, by means of no weapontry or funds. Let's also vote to expand the government so that Obama's friends can occupy those seats. Then we can allow immigrants, including his aunt, free rane over everything. Then our SS system can really go bankrupt. Any way, who cares if the US is destroyed, when that happens, I will go live the Middle East with Obama's people....They will be in good shape.

    • 3 years ago
  • Jennymw319
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      Jennymw319  
    • I am a single parent and I work two jobs to support my family. Financially I meet the criteria to be penalized and taken from because of this "Share the Wealth" issue. If we are going to Redistribute the Funds here, Why not get rid of the whole food stamp and medical card issue so that some people don't have an excuse to stay home and enjoy their extended vacation. Let's investigate the Social Security system to verify that the applicates under qualifying age actually deserve the Social Security benefits paid by the Taxpayers. There are middle class families here that do not qualify for food stamps or social security and they do not have health care...What about these people? Do we all have to quit work to be better off? I would take a little less money to have a lifetime of extended vacations with my family while you guys pay if you like. I think the bible says, "If you don't work, you don't eat"!Also why would we change the constitution and the American Flag and the National Anthem again? I don't think our right to bear arms should be stripped from us. The bad guys will still be buying guns off the back of some truck somewhere, but what about the honest americans? Shit out of luck huh? Let's vote to weaken the United States, by means of no weapontry or funds. Let's also vote to expand the government so that Obama's friends can occupy those seats. Then we can allow immigrants, including his aunt, free rane over everything. Then our SS system can really go bankrupt. Any way, who cares if the US is destroyed, when that happens, I will go live the Middle East with Obama's people....They will be in good shape.

    • 3 years ago
  • Jennymw319
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • I heard some pollster chat on NPR today talking about how in their studies, democrats tend to vote "on issues" while republicans tend to vote "on values".

      This might explain what we are seeing in terms of religious emphasis- people use religion to gauge your values, which I think is ridiculous, but in America it is especially true.

    • 3 years ago
  • MornRail
  • AswegoAsdego
  • humanpasta
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      humanpasta  
    • this is the saddest thing ever, not that people are misinformed about the mans personal religious beliefs, but that it MATTERS. that his religious beliefs are a matter of controversy in a country that prides itself on its freedoms, one of the greatest being the freedom to practice personal beliefs without fear of discrimination or persecution, show the true colors of this country, if you say you love this country and are not going to vote for a man you believe to be muslim, you have completely turned your back on everything this country stands for. your ignorance and racism is disgusting. dont vote for him because you dont agree with his policies, not because you think he is of a different religion.

    • 3 years ago
  • thornman
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      thornman  
    • I won't deny that there are some Texans who believe Obama is a muslim, but Texas is a very conservative state, and I know that a large portion of that 23% had to be some republican assholes who know Obama is christian taking the chance to be funny and screw up a serious poll.

    • 3 years ago
  • CitizenSleep
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • Maybe I should have added a piece to the headline;
      "A quarter of Texans think Obama is a Muslim, and half of Current thinks Texans are Stupid."

      I am surprised to see this turn into a Texas bashing thread! I hope you all realize I had not intended for that, I'm sure there are many other states where this ignorance has spread as well.

      The point was not that Texans are stupid, but that misinformation and rumors can stick around despite being an educated nation - and might be spread on purpose to damage a candidate, which leads me to my next point- why are we afraid of muslims in America? Why would Obama being a muslim wreck his chances for president? Why does religion play such a big role in politics anyway?

    • 3 years ago
  • kennymotown
  • outtheinside
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      outtheinside  
    • i'm amused at all the blatant ignorance blasting Texas. 23% coming from a republican state makes sense seeing as Fox News is glorified for unbiased coverage here. The majority of posts make an incorrect general inference of Texas on a stat which states 77% of people don't believe Barak is a muslim (rather we know he isn't). I'm losing faith in the Current community. I was hoping we were a group of highly educated liberals. Now I'm believing its mostly a media-centric leftist watering hole. Where did the intelligent people go? If anyone would like an intelligent discussion, message me. The way people are construing this article is sickening.

    • 3 years ago
  • IAMHIPHOP
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      IAMHIPHOP  
    • so all of you people think b/c 23% mistakingly think he's muslim gives you the right to bash all texans and all of texas? so i guess you would justify bashing all of islam for a small % of muslims being terrorists? it works both ways people.....

    • 3 years ago
  • sueathome
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      sueathome  
    • Ignorance has killed millions. My dad used to say, "if you don't know what your talking about, shut up!" If the saying fits Texas, wear it!

    • 3 years ago
  • WhichWayIsUp
  • Pericles_Lewnes
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      Pericles_Lewnes  
    • Everybody is all shook up about whether Obama is a Muslim. He is not and it doesn't matter if he is!

      Nader is Lebanese (An ARAB!) why aren't people up his ass with a microscope?

      I would also like to point out that the current AMERICAN that is the UNITED STATES representative to the United Nations and APPOINTED by the BUSH Administration is an AFGHAN MUSLIM!

      His name is Zalmay Khalilzad. Look at his resume.

      Snap out of it!

    • 3 years ago
  • dean_is_rad
  • ColdWorld
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      ColdWorld  
    • Even if he was Muslim, he would still be a better president than McCain. I am equally scared of right-wing extremist Christians as I am of extremist Muslims. Both groups are crazy. Both believe we are now engaged in a holy war. McCain supporters have been searching for some valid reason not to support Obama this whole campaign. When they found none, all they had left was "terrorist", "Muslim", "Socialist", etc....Read some local newspaper articles from Kentucky or Alabama or Georgia. There are quite a few where people openly admit that they will never vote for a (insert racial slur or religious stereotype here).

    • 3 years ago
  • diabolical44
  • WVDarby
  • anitrax1
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      anitrax1  
    • I am always saddened by my lack of options in the American Political Corporation. And it's even more pathetic that you all fall for it. Every time. So while I am begrudgingly voting for Obama, I'm also voting this post down. It helps no one. Sorry Delia, I do usually like your style though. Anyone who pledges allegiance to any of these clowns based on the last few campaigns/elections is a fool. I want a do-over!

    • 3 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • The Republicans love to spread lies about their political opponents. Its just how they roll...

      Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) has been running an ad suggesting her opponent, state senator Kay Hagan (D) is an atheist.

      And if she was an atheist, so what?

    • 3 years ago
  • SuncatcherEyes
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      SuncatcherEyes  
    • Well of course they do (pats little republican Texans on the head). Aren't they cute? They fall for anything that comes out of the republican press machine.

    • 3 years ago
  • Ami_ka_Lanya
  • Humdrum
  • Ami_ka_Lanya
  • phooey
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      phooey  
    • this is sad, how uninformed and obviously uneducated the red states seem to be. McCain has waged a dirty campaign that is subversive as William Ayers, if Obama wins, how can people like this be expected to rejoin real
      American and become a part of the solution.

      rather than part of the problem.

    • 3 years ago
  • naturalselection
  • Liberal_Extinction
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      Liberal_Extinction  
    • Compared to the liberal masses that think obama is the chosen one, the savior, the messiah, and the latest craze in sources of income for the laziest of society, I'll take Texas any day.

    • 3 years ago
  • lifestudentno83
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      lifestudentno83  
    • Liberal_Extinction:

      You only think that because that's what the Right-Wing Media has conditioned you to believe. As you can see, you're the only one who has said "Obama is the Messiah" in this thread.

      Your rhetoric is getting really old. I guess if you say it enough times someone's bound to agree with you on this site eventually, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

    • 3 years ago
  • Liberal_Extinction
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      Liberal_Extinction  
    • Liberal_Extinction:

      Hey, repeating something over and over and over again appears to work for you rabid left wingers. thougt I'd give it a try. I can tell you that very few people I have met/ know think he's a muslim (if any), most do think that he has a VERY sketchy past and some rather questionable past associations that appear to be more than just rubbing elbows at a dinner.

    • 3 years ago
  • honusurf
  • HaloedGriot
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      HaloedGriot  
    • These same Texas shit kickers also wanted to drink beer with George Bush. Well guess what? They'll get their chance soon. That chump will be unemployed come January.

    • 3 years ago
  • Jennymw319
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      Jennymw319  
    • The majority of people living in Africa where Obama's father is from are Muslims and they speak a version of the Arabic Language. I have friends from the Middle East and from Africa, who are also Muslim....There are also Catholics living in the Middle East, mostly from Lebanon. Point is....If you are Muslim, why hide it...There are muslim people, majority, who are not terrorists....Why deny your religion, unless you are affiliated with the terrorists?

    • 3 years ago
  • lifestudentno83
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      lifestudentno83  
    • I'm less concerned about the 23% of Texans thinking Barack is a Muslim. That's due to misinformation and slandering from the right wing.

      I'm far more concerned by Muslim being somehow related to something bad or unamerican. What does that say to the Muslim community that calls that country home? Also, what does that say to the international community of Muslims, some of whom already dislike America because of it's policies and opinions?

    • 3 years ago
  • SDLN
  • EmperorThan
  • thelavelles
  • SDLN
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      SDLN  
    • It's strange that most Texans I've met in my life have been fairly decent people, yet these sort of bizarre beliefs seems to permeate from that state. Maybe I don't know Texas well enough, or maybe Texans don't get a fair shake. I don't know. But that contradiction is apparent in my experience.

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • It is getting so tiresome to keep hearing about this ignorance. The media needs to set the record straight and report accurate facts instead of the spin. This is why people are becoming so dumbed down; they are not being fed a nourishing dose of the truth.

    • 3 years ago
  • FazeB
  • pgarcia17
  • mako2424
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      mako2424  
    • So, as a proud Texan and Obamahead, I'm compelled to speak up on this thread considering the kind of high-minded posts I'd expect from...well, people who believe Barack Obama is Muslim.

      To be fair, I've talked to many people who've repeated that statement while discussing the presidential race. But, to make a generalization of an entire state, with almost 25 million people in it, based on the opinions of 23% of 545 of them is both unwise and unscientific.

      Yeah, Texas has it's problems, just like every other state in the country, but it's my home, it's a great place to live, and if you have a problem with it...here's a solution: just don't come here. We'll fix things without you.

    • 3 years ago
  • deane
  • outtheinside
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      outtheinside  
    • yup, i am another texan here on the liberal website supporting obama. i'd like to know who was polled. no one is giving credibility to the problems the poll admits that could skew the data. i for one don't believe the poll from my experience with conversations i've had with republicans in the state. i'd like to see this poll in the states where people have said "fuck texas" because believe me, those people will take a second look at their own state when they see the same figures. yes, texas is still better than the rest. eat it up ya'll.

    • 3 years ago
  • dustan_e
  • ocanada
  • IMMININT
  • emarston
  • nkeg87
  • rrawtry
  • kennyJ
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      kennyJ  
    • rrawtry:

      Oh yeah McCain is squeaky clean... Well only when you keep your eyes focused on the things McCain camp keeps pointing to- Oldest trick in the book...

    • 3 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
  • howhispering
  • nkeg87
  • Humdrum
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      Humdrum  
    • For f__ck's sake, ya'll. Many of the comments here are just as ignorant as anything I've heard a racist redneck spew.

      Don't forget about the 77% of Texans who DON'T believe him to be a Muslim. That's a lot of people you're lumping in with the minority. Sort of reminds me of...oh yeah, some asshole stating that all Muslims are terrorists.

      I can't believe how easy it is for you people to stereotype and generalize when talking about a southern state - even when the numbers are staring you in the face.
      Look to your own behavior before criticizing someone else for pulling the exact same bullshit. We're all Americans - act like it.

      PS
      As to the article -
      If community leaders and politicians stuck to the issues, and refrained from character smears, then this kind of ignorance would be far less common, I'd [like to] think.
      God forbid they should take their responsibilities seriously, and put the good of the country's psyche above spreading misconception with their pathetic political squabbling.

    • 3 years ago
  • Cuddlebones
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      Cuddlebones  
    • Humdrum:

      AMEN. I hate stereotypes on Texas. If you drove through Dallas you would think that Dallas is Obama's home town, i swear to god. Obama signs were not even 10 inches apart from each other.

      The other states don't know what it's like because they don't live here.

      Stop judging something you have no knowledge on America ;)

    • 3 years ago
  • howhispering
  • barkway
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      barkway  
    • howhispering:

      WAY higher than that! Go look at the last Census data on the number of Americans with a college degree or higher. It's pretty miniscule...and the high school gradutation rates haven't been doing too well either in recent times in many Southern parts of the country.

    • 3 years ago
  • barkway
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      barkway  
    • Well the state is not exactly a hotbed of intellectualism or profundity. Christ, look at the idiot in the White House. Why should this little factoid surpprise anyone?

    • 3 years ago
  • mirage4season
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • Texas has four cites that in the top ten to live in in the United States during this econimic hardship.

      While the rest of the country is seeking jobs....Texas has more than enough and then some. People are coming to Austin, San Antonio, Dallas and Houston for jobs....because we have them.

      Texas could also be its own country and have a higher GDP than the rest of the United States.

      To lump people together is a sad state indeed. To do it with spite and hatred in the guise of a joke is even worse.

      There are people all over the world that think Obama is a Muslim....not just Texas. No place is safe from that kind of ignorance.

      People spread the lie around that John McCain wasn't tortured.

      Just as bad.

      Some of you with this type of double standard is sad.

      Obama can't even pull his own supporters together enough to get them to not share hate. He sure the hell can't heal a country.

    • 3 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • J_Jammer:

      "because we have them. "- are you from Texas?

      "People spread the lie around that John McCain wasn't tortured. " -While I have heard that, I've heard a lot more of this Muslim thing. Also, I've never heard anyone from the Obama campaign try to discredit McCain's heroism, while I consistantly hear the McCain campaign try to paint Obama as "unamerican."

      "Obama can't even pull his own supporters together enough to get them to not share hate." - What are you talking about?

    • 3 years ago
  • AreOh
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      AreOh  
    • J_Jammer:

      LOL, you're always good for a laugh, JJ. What you say about the economic status of Texas may be true, but it is irrelevant. This is a social issue, so economics really don't have anything to do with it. The rest, ha, just makes me chuckle. Keep trying, my man, keep trying. Maybe one day you'll say something relevant.

    • 3 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • J_Jammer:

      The comments on this website are not kind and most people here are for Obama. That says that Obama can't bring his own people together...how the hell is he to pull a Lincoln? He can't.

      You think you're on the good side? You're "side" can't even make peace they have to make snide comments like the one above.

      He's about change but his supporters are the same old same old....nothing special.

    • 3 years ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • J_Jammer:

      I don't understand this "side" talk. I'm on education's side. This article was not supposed to be "Texans are Stupid", and I never implied anything like that. We should ALL be on the side of informing the public, and it's a shame that so close to election day, people are still this misinformed.

    • 3 years ago
  • joshinia
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      joshinia  
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    • J_Jammer:

      "Texas could also be its own country and have a higher GDP than the rest of the United States. "

      typical Texan bluster

      Based on 2007 data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, US Department of Commerce :
      Texas GDP=$1,141,965,000,000
      US GDP = $13,743,021,000,000

      Definitely a disproportionate contribution but not more than the other 49 states combined and not even in the top ten per capita.

      Link: http://www.bea.gov/regional/gsp/action.cfm

    • 3 years ago
  • ocanada
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      ocanada  
    • J_Jammer:

      Your "side" or rather your party is the party of Willie Horton and Swiftboats. Your party is the party of Karl Rove and Fox News.

      Obama has had to wade through acusations from the trivial, Terrorist Fist Jabs, to violent Palling Around with Terrorists. To the rediculous redbaiting cries of Socialist! Communist! Pinko! Liberal!

      Texas is a fine state. But much of its wealth is do to the pain at the pump suffered by other Americans. Texas is responsible for petrochemical lobbyists and has had a "Texan First" president these last eight years doing everything he can to help his state and family petroleum lobby. Policies favoring Texas over the rest of America have hurt all of America. I don't want another "don't mess with Texas" candidate. I don't want an AIP Alaska first candidate and I don't want a candidate who profers "country first" while implying his opponent is unamerican. That is the most unamerican process possible.

    • 3 years ago
  • JudahEvan
  • rainbowryan420
  • Zero_Ryoko
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      Zero_Ryoko  
    • Does it really surprise anyone that people believe this in Texas or even in any southern state? If Obama loses it will be because of pure ignorance.

    • 3 years ago
  • ley2106
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      ley2106  
    • this is an ignorant artice..im a texan and graduating from georgetown this fall--i have no negitive view of obama. try to focus on the real matter at hand. who will make the best pres. not what religion they practice. that would be very ignorant--like this article. "Nuff Said?"

    • 3 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
  • ley2106
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      ley2106  
    • ley2106:

      i think the article is ignorant because it distracts people from what really matters. this is a important time for our country. as if we really need more reasons to distance ourselves from one another.we need to be coming together to pick a good leader. to me,any distraction that degrades a state that is apart of our union is ignorant.

    • 3 years ago
  • juanitamae
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      juanitamae  
    • I'd like to know where they found the idiots that think
      Obama is a Muslim. I am an Obama supporter,
      already voted, born and raised in Ft. Worth, Texas,
      believe me, the right wing religious fanatics make
      it hard for the Democrats in Texas, but there are
      quite a few of us. By the way, George Bush was
      not born in Texas, he is from Connecticut and I wish
      they would take him back. Don't tar us all with the
      same brush, a lot of Texans are just as sick of the
      slimey Republicans as the rest of the country. The
      Bible thumpers are the problem.

    • 3 years ago
  • michaelway
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      michaelway  
    • I will admit that many of my fellow Texans aren't the most informed people, but it has a lot to do with the environment they grew up in. We are a very red and oil hungry state and those values have, unfortunately, bled into generation after generation. In light of all this "Fuck Texas" talk, I would like you all to consider that there is a nice part of Texas. It is called Austin. We are the "blue pimple on the red state" and we know that Obama is not a Muslim! So the only thing I ask is when you say "Fuck Texas," please put "except Austin"

      Y'all

    • 3 years ago
  • JudahEvan
  • Cuddlebones
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      Cuddlebones  
    • michaelway:

      All I know is smart people here in Texas. We have some of the best schools. Unlike other southern states who's high school drop outs are in record highs.

      I'm not going to blame the environment. I blame the people themselves.

    • 3 years ago
  • AreOh
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      AreOh  
    • I'm more concerned with the implication that if he was a Muslim, that would be a bad thing. Islam, just like every religion, has it's bad apples. For every Bin Laden, there is a Hagee. This only shows the continued willful ignorance of many of Americans in Texas, and in this post as well, and how much this dictates their decision making process. Hopefully, these type of prejudiced opinions will fall into the same less than 1% category that every other extreme view falls very soon.

    • 3 years ago
  • Neghie
  • iloveravi
  • nodlew20
  • dabne
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      dabne  
    • I actually wish Obama were a Muslim instead of attending the hateful so called christian church and pastor he listened to every week for the past twenty years. He belonged to the most racist, vile, unpatriotic parish I've ever seen or heard. He conveniently left that church when the media actually started printing and showing clips of its messages and sermons. What a joke. What a lack of morals. Again, I wish he were Muslim, instead of what he is or was or whatever he would like to claim now! Now that people are paying attention to his religious leaders.

    • 3 years ago
  • AreOh
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      AreOh  
    • dabne:

      The hypocrisy of this post is appalling. Firstly, Wright may have presented his opinions in a very crude manner, but he was not wrong and even defended by some prominent conservatives. B.Ob left the church because his campaign could not be aligned with someone who spoke so bluntly about his opinions. This is the nature of politics. Wright is no more a racist than you are. Ignorant perhaps, but I think he has earned the right to speak his mind after growing up in the Jim Crow era. I dare anyone to go through that experience of indignity and bigotry and not come out with some negative opinions. If you want to talk about hate hateful Christians do not forget to include John Hagee, who has endorsed John McCain if you want a true example of vile and racist behavior amongst men of the cloth. Let's speak truthfully and honestly about this topic, as opposed to leaving out the facts to support a prejudiced view.

    • 3 years ago
  • dabne
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      dabne  
    • dabne:

      The fact is Barak Obama changed his church in the middle of the election process because his pastor was a racist. I like how you put it, "spoke so bluntly about his opinions," it made me laugh out loud.

      So you are telling me that Barack left his church that he had attended for over twenty years simply because his pastor speaks his mind to bluntly? If that is the case then that tells me a lot about Barack right there. He's a sell out. He threw his pastor under the bus to protect himself. Don't get me wrong, Barack did the right thing by leaving that racist parish, he just did it twenty years too late.

    • 3 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • dabne:

      Do you really think that Obama is a radical like the rev ? I mean, honestly? People's affiliates may say something about them, but it is no substitute for their own words and actions- has OBAMA, not people around him, led you to believe he's just like rev wright?

    • 3 years ago
  • AreOh
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      AreOh  
    • dabne:

      I see an honest conversation with you is improbable. B.Ob is only guilty of what politicians have been doing for decades; distancing themselves from what people view as distasteful. The same way Hill distanced herself from what's-her-name when she said B.Ob had an advantage cause he was black. The same way McCain distanced himself from Hagee because of his racist tirades. This is politics. It's funny to me how everyone want to condemn him on him and his campaign when plenty of others have done the same exact things before him. This is a clear sign of bias. And, as expected, you fail to even mention or even acknowledge that many agreed with his message, if not his delivery, or even his valid reasons for speaking out the way he did. Again, this willful omission on highlights your bias even more. When you are ready to speak honestly, I will respond. If not, continue with your prejudiced reasoning unabated.

    • 3 years ago
  • dabne
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      dabne  
    • dabne:

      I am questioning why he attended Wright's church for twenty years and then left when the media started to show his sermons on TV.

      I do not believe Barack when he says he never in twenty years heard Wright speak that way. I think he is lying.

      I call into question comments he made in his own book when he acknowledges that he was drawn to socialists and even Marxists as a college student.

      "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," Obama wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

      He is a sellout. He sold out his pastor, he sold out Bill Ayers, whatever it takes to get into the white house.

      I also call into question his comments about "spreading the wealth." He's too socialist for me.

    • 3 years ago
  • JudahEvan
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      JudahEvan  
    • dabne:

      How can any person have a discussion with you dabne if it comes down to you thinking Barack is lying?

      And Barack a sellout? What about McCain?

      I know dabne. I know. You supported Hillary and you're not prejudiced. It just doesn't seem like you are telling the truth though.

    • 3 years ago
  • dabne
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      dabne  
    • dabne:

      I never supported Gore or Kerry either. Does that still make me prejudice? That's the worst argument I've heard so far by the left. "Who ever says anything negative about Obama is branded a racist. So were we all racist in 2000 and 2004? How about 1980 and 1988? Were we all racist then? It's an absurd argument. And if you want to talk about race, you could say Obama is every bit as white as he is black. It's the fact that his policies are based on socialism that is the problem.

    • 3 years ago
  • ctrl_alt_del
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      ctrl_alt_del  
    • Thanks for sterotyping the Texans that dont think he is a Muslim terrorist, and proving the way to counter ignorance is to be ignorant yourself.

    • 3 years ago
  • Nephwrack
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      Nephwrack  
    • i think a quarter of the US population is mentally handicapped. i live in a red county within a blue state and i still hear regurgitated GOPhacist talking points like i hear he's a trrrrist and nobuddy knows whar he was born, and my favorite, he's an arab. makes me sick. i can usually get the same ppl thinking by saying but we didnt find any wmd's? why should we be there? and saddam's gone, no wmds? why should our boys still be there dying for bush? i dont care if they vote for ron paul or bob barr just as long as it's not mccain. the 100 years thing works too.

    • 3 years ago
  • kennyJ
  • tcrane
  • nodlew20
  • JudahEvan
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      JudahEvan  
    • Ok. Let's say that Texas, is well, Texas. (and I like Texas)

      So 22% is not that large of a percentage. It's less than one out of four people. (like a person without an arm or something)

      So if we assume Texas is Texas, which I think is fair, and that the rest of the country does not have the same demographic breakdown as Texas, with the history of Texas - then I think we can safely say that 22% is a highwater mark for this. Most states, I bet, are filled with less than a 22% dose of hardheaded ignorance/bigotry.

      Conclusion: this is cool baby.

      More than 22% of the country thinks McCain is a fucking idiot - including me. Plus, being a fucking idiot is as strong a reason not to vote for someone, for some people, as being Muslim. This is fine with me. Let the intolerant and fundamentally dogmatic vote. I will vote, along with many like me - balance that shit out, hopefully tip it.

    • 3 years ago
  • AmberT
  • poejelly
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      poejelly  
    • Very interresting either he is a muslim or a radical christian hmmm McCain has brought Flip flopping to an art form. The McCain club suffers from demention.. Anytime they here something mentioned they take it and run with. The straight talk express has a driver who is DWI
      Damned with ignorance

    • 3 years ago
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