Community | November 02, 2008 | 20 comments

Judge orders White House to prove wire-tapping program was legal

source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081102/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/warrantless_wiretapping

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A judge has ordered the Justice Department to produce White House memos that provide the legal basis for the Bush administration's post-Sept. 11 warrantless wiretapping program.
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20 comments // Judge orders White House to prove wire-tapping program was legal

  • KillerBeeUAE
  • justright
  • uppityprogressive
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      uppityprogressive  
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    • Join the ACLU, send small amounts regularly if that's all you can do, but strengthen those who fight for the rights of American citizens and residents. We all must do more.

    • 3 years ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
  • uppityprogressive
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      uppityprogressive  

    • It is about time, and althought the hamstrung congress has done pathetically little to bring any kind of accountability so far, I think that all of those investigative committee meetings that have been relegated to the basement have been gathering mountains of evidence that will all at once become known to the American people and the world.

      Economist Ravi Batra, who predicted the current economic crisis and wrote "Greenspan's Fraud" has put out another book called "The New Golden Age" where he predicts that we are moving into a period of exposure of corruption like we have never seen before, that things are to get more difficult economically and socially for a period but will inspire a voters revolution (are we seeing some of that already?) and will emerge with a new system of economics and social justice that will serve the masses instead of the rich...no wonder Limbaugh, O'Riley and the Bush gang are getting sketchier by the day.

      Thanks Whitenoise, the Palast video is sooooo right.

      And bss05g; Their legal basis is pretty non existent, unless “cause we felt like it” is a good reason.

      So poignant a statement...thanks.

    • 3 years ago
  • skrewed_187
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  

    • Keep your powder dry, november 5th we will know who
      the pigs are and all their little piglets. The people will not
      be fooled again. There are not enough jails too hold us all.

    • 3 years ago
  • borymp
  • DeliaTheArtist
  • borymp
  • lotus_65
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      lotus_65  

    • i write everything assuming it will be held in a file somewhere with the feds, but i also archive my notes on my secure backup and 4 close friends know where it's located.

      i can safely say that if i where abducted to the gulag i'd be able to be ultimately vindicated, assuming our civil rights are one day restored.

      another good thing is the internet itself. us talking about these things makes it less likely they would be used against us as information is power. this information could be used to resist those who mean us harm.

    • 3 years ago
  • outtheinside
  • lotus_65
  • huntre
  • Conniepae
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      Conniepae  

    • Look out, there may be a new Sheriff in town. I think Americans know George W. has done much harm to our freedom, our Constitution and the rule of law.

    • 3 years ago
  • bss05g
  • WhiteNoise
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    • Five years ago, I discovered that ChoicePoint had already gathered 16 billion data files on Americans -- and I know they've expanded their ops at an explosive rate. They are paid to keep an eye on you -- because the FBI can't. For the government to collect this stuff is against the law unless you're suspected of a crime. (The law in question is the Constitution.) But ChoicePoint can collect it for "commercial" purchases -- and under the Bush Administration's suspect reading of the Patriot Act -- our domestic spying apparatchiks can then BUY the info from ChoicePoint. Who ARE these guys selling George Bush a piece of you?

      ChoicePoint's board has more Republicans than a Palm Beach country club. It was funded, and its board stocked, by such Republican sugar daddies as billionaires Bernie Marcus and Ken Langone -- even after Langone was charged by the Securities Exchange Commission with abuse of inside information. I first ran across these guys in 2000 in Florida when our Guardian/BBC team discovered the list of 94,000 "felons" that Katherine Harris had ordered removed from Florida's voter rolls before the election. Virtually every voter purged was innocent of any crime except, in most cases, Voting While Black.

      Who came up with this electoral hit list that gave Bush the White House? ChoicePoint, Inc. And worse, they KNEW the racially-tainted list of felons was bogus. And when we caught them, they lied about it. While they've since apologized to the NAACP, ChoicePoint's ethnic cleansing of voter rolls has been amply rewarded by the man the company elected. And now ChoicePoint and George Bush want your blood. Forget your phone bill. ChoicePoint, a sickened executive of the company told us in confidence, "hope[s] to build a database of DNA samples from every person in the United States ...linked to all the other information held by CP [ChoicePoint]" from medical to voting records. And ChoicePoint lied about that too.

      The company publicly denied they gave DNA to the Feds -- but then told our investigator, pretending to seek work, that ChoicePoint was "the number one" provider of DNA info to the FBI. "And that scares the hell out of me," said the executive (who has since left the company), because ChoicePoint gets it WRONG so often. We are not contracting out our Homeland Security to James Bond here. It's more like Austin Powers, Inc. Besides the 97% error rate in finding Florida "felons," Illinois State Police fired the company after discovering ChoicePoint had produced test "results" on rape case evidence ... that didn't exist.

      And ChoicePoint just got hit with the largest fine in Federal Trade Commission history for letting identity thieves purchase 145,000 credit card records. But it won't stop, despite Republican senators shedding big crocodile tears about "surveillance" of innocent Americans. That's because FEAR is a lucrative business -- not just for ChoicePoint, but for firms such as Syntech, Sybase and Lockheed-Martin -- each of which has provided lucrative posts or profits to connected Republicans including former Total Information Awareness chief John Poindexter (Syntech), Marvin Bush (Sybase) and Lynn Cheney (Lockheed-Martin).
      http://www.gregpalast.com/the-spies-who-shag-us/

    • 3 years ago
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  

    • Pointing the US Surveillance Apparatus at the American People

      New categories of individuals under the purview of state "counterterrorism" investigations
      http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10774

      FBI's Analytical Lexicon Lowers the Bar

      Do you "pal around with terrorists"? Are you a "radical" or express views that the government considers "extremist"?

      On October 28, the whistleblowing website Cryptome published the FBI Directorate of Intelligence: Counterterrorism Division's Counterterrorism Analytical Lexicon. This eye-opening "Unclassified/For Official Use Only" (U/FOUO) document purports "to standardize terms used in the FBI analytical products dealing with counterterrorism."

      But what it does instead, in keeping with the FBI's insatiable appetite for "actionable intelligence product," is create new categories of individuals who might fall under the purview of state "counterterrorism" investigations.

      "A society whose citizens refuse to see and investigate the facts, who refuse to believe that their government and their media will routinely lie to them and fabricate a reality contrary to verifiable facts, is a society that chooses and deserves the Police State Dictatorship it's going to get." - Ian Williams Goddard

    • 3 years ago
  • PoisonTheMonkey
  • necrotized
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      necrotized  

    • It's about time. I hope that the crimes committed can be paid for by those who perpetrated them; whether or not they still hold office.

    • 3 years ago
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