Community | November 17, 2008 | 69 comments

We will need two planets by 2030

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The recent downturn in the global economy is a stark reminder of the consequences of living beyond our means. But the possibility of financial recession pales in comparison to the looming ecological credit crunch. ”If we continue with business as usual, we will need two planets by 2030 to keep up with humanity’s demand for goods...
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69 comments // We will need two planets by 2030

  • Katanajon
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      Katanajon  
    • I remember the turn of the century was supposed to be the END also. There is big money in promoting the end. Just ask the Pentecostals. And if the Mayans were so fuc--ng smart then why did they only last 300 years????

    • 3 years ago
  • benfreckle916
  • TriggerJ
  • CalgarC
  • Lazybones
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      Lazybones  
    • Naw with the economy the way it is now, we probably should take the money straight outta the bank via world debit card. Don't spend it if ya don't have it!

    • 3 years ago
  • rossao
  • kgp4death
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      kgp4death  
    • Well seemingly we do need a catalyst....however these catalyst have already happen it's sad we didn't learn from history (Blank Plague killing 2/3rds of the population, asteroid killing the dinosaurs, cosmic radiation killing the trilobites)....it is quite sad that we need yet another reminder before there can be real change.

    • 3 years ago
  • sanehead
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      sanehead  
    • It is a pessimistic climate for sure, everything seems to be going downhill.... do we need a catalyst to change things around?

      or we are bound to a catalist event as our only solution to get out of this nastiness

    • 3 years ago
  • kyackr
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      kyackr  
    • yeah ... it doesn't look very good does it?
      decades of time have been wasted concerning this unbalanced crisis...
      the drastic changes needed are up against the powers of the profit driven status quo

    • 3 years ago
  • islek
  • jrchel
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      jrchel  
    • not impressed. we are not using all of the earths resources, just too many of the irreplaceable ones; aka fossil fuels. business has clouded everyones thinking. take a plane across the united states and see how much of its land is not even populated. alternative fuels are the answer.

    • 3 years ago
  • krush_productions
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      krush_productions  
    • I won't leave this planet. Earth is the only place I will ever call home. I was born on this planet and I intend to die on it as well. My connection to this planet is through the outdoors, I refuse to live on a space station, or in a bubble dome on some barren planet.

    • 3 years ago
  • animalia_libero
  • krush_productions
  • purplefox
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      purplefox  
    • i'm actually kind of reasurred by the fact that we *don't* have another planet to turn to and spoil, as this way at least we have a chance of realising how much we're unsustainably exploiting our resources. Whether we realise early enough is another question.

    • 3 years ago
  • dirtyemowords
  • Beta_Boy
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      Beta_Boy  
    • Oil is a resource that can run out and we will still survive.

      Fresh water and food on the other hand will be a different story altogether.

    • 3 years ago
  • richjm
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      richjm  
    • I think we should all work on persuading people in places like Barbados and Hawaii that this second planet is amazing and they'd love it there. They then up sticks and move and bingo - beaches, sand and sun for the rest of us!

    • 3 years ago
  • lj111
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      lj111  
    • I WONDER WHERE THE SECOND PLANET WILL COME FROM. MAYBE WE WILL INVENT A WAY TO ATTRACT A PLANET AND COAX IT TO US OR MAYBE WE WILL JUST SIMPLY MAKE ANOTHER ONE. I REALLY DON'T KNOW JUST SOME IDEAS.

    • 3 years ago
  • drgutman
  • Jayface89
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      Jayface89  
    • how the hell did this get from ecological disaster to terrorism and modern american conservatism?

      Anyway, I know what will happen.
      We'll all worry for a while then we'll forget and carry on guzzling energy fuels in a way of life we've got used to.
      The only way this can be avoided is if governments put practices in to change our lifestyle.
      Few people can be bothered, or is knowledgeable on how, to change their ways.
      Bring it on. It'll be like waterworld but covered in rubbish.

    • 3 years ago
  • kiltedandfree
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      kiltedandfree  
    • This planet and mother nature has always had a way of getting rid of any organism that is destroying the planet. Don't worry, there will be something that will slow down the advance of man. One we haven't thought of is the third world trying to take over.

      You know those stone age people that flew the planes into the WTC. All they want is to rid themselves of us so they can come over here and have what we have. As though they could run the technology we have created. They justify it by religious means which is another way of saying "mother nature".

      Ever wonder why over the past 4 months people have been buying hand guns, rifles, shotguns by the train load and the concealed carry courses have been over run. This past weekend I attended a course that put over 400 people through in two days here in Florida. I'm sure it's more in other places. We have just elected a man? who thinks share the wealth, well everyone's wealth but his, that is.

      We will have a new friendlier America avoid of its terrorist symbols like its flag. Here is a man who grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth, grew up privileged then realized he was half black then realized he could use his blackness to be angry is almost running the country and he hasn't taken the oath of office yet. We, or those who voted for him, wanted something new and fresh, like Jimmy Carter was. I watch that man smile and it always seems there is something else behind the smile. Something else he is holding back to spring on us later. He cannot just smile. Watch his eyes.

      Anyway, he wants to spread the wealth, which means your tax dollars and mine. "Everyone is happy when everything can be spread around and everyone can have stuff", Obama. You know I only want the stuff I work for or I make with my two hands. I don't want someone else's stuff given to me. That won't happen cuz I'm in a tax bracket they take from. Well, if he wants my guns he will take them from my cold dead hands. Than is all I care to tell him.

      At least I can sit back and say, "you elected him, not me",

    • 3 years ago
  • elpitzel
  • drgutman
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      drgutman  
    • kiltedandfree:

      umm ... and what exactly electing obama has with the fact that by 2012 we'll be 7 billion people and with the fact that the consumerism politics teach every person that they should consume more?

      if you post a response at least TRY to have a connection with the news.

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • kiltedandfree:

      I don't know why I even bothered to read through your entire rant kiltedandfree. Are you a member of the elite ruling class?

      You talk like your the cats meow. Your ignorance is deafening.

    • 3 years ago
  • thea_inthecity
  • Eclecticos
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      Eclecticos  
    • The Venus project is nothing more than some communists ideal with overtones of peace and "Futuristic" graphic renderings.

      Watched the youtube video.
      I would like to point out the fact that the calendar was created in the year 3372 BC. On December 21, 2012 the Mayan calendar will be obsolete. On that day everyone who uses it to gauge time should toss the calendar out, step out of there time capsule, and purchase a regular calendar.

    • 3 years ago
  • kreddig
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      kreddig  
    • Dumbest story i have heard all month. The Malthusian Principle will not occur for a while, so get over this ecological Armageddon theme, which has seemed to be coming for the last 200 years...

    • 3 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • kreddig:

      Maybe we shouldn't call it a dumb story but yes, people have been fearing Malthusian population disasters since the late 1880s. But agricultural revolutions and advances in medicine were not predicted by Malthus, so he was ultimately wrong.

      But while we might never see an agricultural revolution like we saw in the last century, the truth is that population growth always stabilizes eventually. As a country industrializes, its population eventually hits a plateau.

      I don't think we'll ever actually see Malthus disaster coming true, except perhaps in Africa, where uncontrolled population growth continues, and might very well continue for a long time.

    • 3 years ago
  • jh64487
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      jh64487  
    • oh people you get so excited. don't you see the solution is simple? just take even more resources away from third worlders and maybe undercut some of the current and growing first worlders (hint: china russia) with a senseless war or two. another world war would seriously be great for population control as well! then we'll have plenty of resources to continue blogging and buying to our hearts content. We can even use satellites and shareware sites every now and then to look in and see how miserable everyone else is.

      ...YAY!!

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Personally I am excited that I might live to see such sights in my lifetime. Such global catastrophes and changes first hand would be like living in a disaster movie. I hate the complacency that we have all become addicted to.

      Rock the boat. Don't rock the boat baby. Rock the boat. Don't rock the boat baby. ooo oooo

    • 3 years ago
  • LostAtSea
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      LostAtSea  
    • Now if only we could put as many resources behind sustaining the earth as we do going to war- then maybe we'd have some bigger and better solutions to this mind-boggling problem.

    • 3 years ago
  • artist_al_fine
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      artist_al_fine  
    • It is all about a thing we call evolution, which does NOT mean some sort of progression toward a percieved perfection of nobility. It simply means adapting to what is going on in the surround world. Many are missing the present evolution.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
  • UrbanGypsy
  • jh64487
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      jh64487  
    • arcticspirit:

      i know right, population control is so wrong, we should address the dwindling resource issue by a good war. world war three could be all about ethnically cleansing ara...i mean terrorists and world war 4 can be about our irreconcilable differences with China.

      so much more moral than population control measures :)

    • 3 years ago
  • Lazybones
  • satanskidney
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      satanskidney  
    • why do humans need to survive/perpetuate? if we're such a scourge then why not take out some friends (not to dinner)?

      the way i see it we have two options
      1) lots of people using very little
      2) few people using whatever they need

      these are the extremes and we're sorta floating in the middle now but eventually we will have to decide or the decision will be made for us (cmon anitbiotic resistant germs).

    • 3 years ago
  • futurehempfarmer
  • middle_east
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      middle_east  
    • This...is not possible. Why not be practical about the issue and start fixing our planet NOW?

      Reuse your grocery bags, recycle your beer bottles, save every drop of water, people! YES WE CAN!

    • 3 years ago
  • kuruption
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • kuruption:

      The Mayan Calendar was cyclical, meaning that when it ends it starts over again from the beginning.

      Its just that people LOVE to jump at stories of a coming apocalypse, for some reason people like to believe that the world is going to end.

      Its the same type of fear-mongering that occured during Y2K. Don't believe it...

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • kuruption:

      Perhaps there is an unconscious desire in all of us that wants such a thing to happen in order to change the corruption of power that dominates our planet with greed and war. The powerlessness in all of us subconsciously gravitates to these kind of ideas because they represent a power greater than those who are oppressing the least of us.

    • 3 years ago
  • drgutman
  • stephenthomson
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      stephenthomson  
    • kuruption:

      I had never heard of the pole shifting theory. that's a little scary.

      Who in the scientific field is worth listening to concerning this? I dont want to take the History Channel's word for it.

    • 3 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • I think space colonization will happen one day, although it will be a very long time from now before we start seeing widespread settlement.

      I grew up reading Isaac Asimov, Carl Sagan, and science fiction stories and I would be very happy if they could one day become reality just like Jules Verne's stores did.

    • 3 years ago
  • kgp4death
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      kgp4death  
    • "humanity’s demand for goods"...lol, well there are more important things then money and goods.....there are many things that can cause the extinction of the human race (super virus, super bacteria, Asteroid, plague, bad aliens, cosmic radiation, nuclear Holocaust, ice age, destroyed environment...) by increasing taxes by 1-2% we can colonize the moon and mars in no time.....we will need this extra insurance to make sure the human race survives (we are not that much better the all those other species in earth history that got wiped out by global clatacisuum)....a global event that brings the human race to its knees is bound to happen maybe not today or tomorrow but if one colony gets wiped out at least we will have others.....people worry about short term problems we should be trying to make sure the species servives no matter what (real goal should be to colinize not only other planets but other glaxies(going to take a while) that way no single event could possibly destroy the human species)

    • 3 years ago
  • MrDoyle2588
  • diode
  • Elevator
  • diode
  • diode
  • telekinesis
  • tallmansam
  • drgutman
  • titopadilla
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      titopadilla  
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    • This is the problem. We always think that having more is some sort of answer. Another planet would only bring more of the same. We need a fundamental change in society not more land to destroy.

      Check out the Venus Project. They have an interesting idea.

    • 3 years ago
  • diode
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      diode  
    • titopadilla:

      the human species can not exist in any sort of numbers beyond tribal that does not have a negative impact on the environment. it is impossible, our species does not work that way. you get two choices, whatever planet we are on, or the continuation of our species. choose wisely.

    • 3 years ago
  • IMMININT
  • Ricky84
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      Ricky84  
    • titopadilla:

      The Venus project is nothing more than utopian socialism. Marx summed up utopian socialist best when he said, “ The undeveloped state of the class struggle, as well as their own surroundings, causes socialists of this kind to consider themselves far superior to all class antagonisms. They want to improve the condition of every member of society, even that of the most favored. Hence, they habitually appeal to society at large, without distinction of class; nay, by preference, to the ruling class. For how can people, when once they understand their system, fail to see it in the best possible plan of the best possible state of society?. Hence, they reject all political, and especially all revolutionary, action; they wish to attain their ends by peaceful means, and endeavor, by small experiments, necessarily doomed to failure, and by the force of example, to pave the way for the new social Gospel.”

    • 3 years ago
  • Lazybones
  • RudyRudell
  • schobiz
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      schobiz  
    • I've said this before- but often times I wish that humanity could share a global near death experience. Something that would make us change on the dime.

    • 3 years ago
  • falinter
  • punkerton
  • metalcookiesxy70
  • Cool_blonde_girl
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