Jon Michael Turner speaks out about Iraq!!

If they (the Gov't) lied about Iraq, they lied about Afghanistan (and who knows where else?) as well. That being said, I think this outbreak of anti-American terrorism we've seen, which culminated in 9/11 and still goes on is a payback for bad foreign policies that the US has followed since the 19th century. Much as the truth hurts, Jeremiah was (W)right. Change foreign policies, start being a country instead of an empire, try to do something about WHY the world hates us, get rid of scumbags like the PNAC-ers, stop the gov't and the Pentagon from selling arms and sending money to people who hate us as well as those who tolerate us, in the name of profit and maybe, JUST MAYBE, situations like what Jon showed us will be fewer. People: get this-- today, soldiers don't serve the country so much as they serve the corporations. Don't let more kids get brainwashed. THINK!!

This young man did what he was told. It made him nuts, and he is now speaking out. This war is not unlike all wars, in that the objective is to kill the enemy, at all costs. I am thinking now about my Father. He was a decorated fighter pilot in WW2. Silver Star, Bronze Star, many others, I don't remember them all, but he had a load of them. He was shot down somewhere between France and Germany, did 9 months in a Nazi prison camp, and was eventually rescued by the Russians at the end of the war. The toll that his time in the USAF took on his life, and subsequently my life, my Mother's life and my younger sister's life is incalculable. My father eventually, over a period of 25 years, drank himself to death. Before he died, he talked about a mission that he flew, strafing what they had been told was a supply train, only to see women and children spilling off the train in every direction - no soldiers, only civilians, women and kids - this haunted him 'til the day he died. He took every one of those medals and destroyed them all - they were a symbol of what he could not live with - he could not accept tribute for what he felt was an act of horror. He and his squadron had been told a lie, and that's what they do, they lie to get 'er done. It's war and it's bad. I feel for this young man - I hope he gets help, I hope he can overcome his guilt and I hope he doesn't let what happened ruin the rest of his life. War has so many victims, not all of them die on the battle field, some of them come home and finish the job there. Either way, war kills and it's a really bad thing.

I think this is years old.

I still think Bu$h & Company should be held for treason as a result of the war in Iraq. No one even talks much about what's going on in Afghanistan but the shit is flying there too. Who approved THAT war? And if you think your "kids" in the military would disobey direct orders while on foreign soil you're the one who needs counseling my friend. They will NEVER disobey given the current circumstances, I don't care how MORAL they are.

We were all mislead into this war. It never should have happened to begin with. False information was put forth to insure all would approve the war. That in it's self is a crime.

These men and women over there have to obey orders and I have heard several members say such horrible things that were allowed to happen in Iraq.

This guys said, "at once it was OK and now is not." I beg to differ, things that were explained on this video are never OK.

oh but he said he was sorry.

Thank you ninepounds6 you have said it the best!!

Funny... if I remember right, almost ALL of us wanted these wars. I remember blind faith, flag waving, being called a coward and anti-American by everyone around me... friends, family, co-workers, strangers.

We, the people, the people who make up this DEMOCRACY, wanted this war. We asked for it, approved it, and then turned our heads as fools ran it for us.

Lesson to all.. THIS is what war is. The next time you wave your flag and blindly follow fools into the war you scream, cry, and beg for, remember this. THIS is war.

My daughter is a Marine and her morals as a human being would never allow her to behave like this no matter what...war is hell and i do not agree with the way the war is being handled but to allow the worlds terrorist continue to kill anyone that does not believe the way they do is not the answer either... this man should have stood up in Iraq...his low life behavior was hidden from the camera crews that were following them proves that he knew his actions were wrong...democrats are ridiculous!! his medals should have been taken from him...coward

It is weird, but that statement by my, OMG, can't believe I have forgotten what he was called, LOL; the guy who trained us in basic, always, always stuck in my mind. I am a yeller, always have been and nothing would have stopped me from yelling about this and going up the chain of command as far as I had to and if that didn't work go outside of the chain of command. Like the news reporters, especially if they are embedded in the units. (Course, you never know, being there involved in it might have been totally different for me, how I feel about it from the comfort of my home is how I'd like to think I would have acted if there. I think so. considering I am known for speaking my mind)

Sam is probably right, brave is not the right word.

RS, I understand what you mean. He is screwed.

Brave is not the correct term to describe this action. I applaud this gentleman's service. However, I agree wholeheartedly with bedeboop's assessment.

What do you think? Am I wrong? Misguided? I'm open to all your thoughts on this article by Patty. Hope she doesn't mind! :)

I disagree. He should have been this brave while in the service and doing what he did, knowing it was wrong. He went along with it, nothing brave about that at all.

There are many different kinds of bravery. This is truly one of them.

I have a hard time with him doing this now. I can't imagine much has changed since I was in the USAF but I do remember being told in basic training that if you ever see anything being done that is immoral or wrong it is your duty to report it, even if it means you are reporting an officer or someone above you in command. (You DO have to use the chain of command). This man, by waiting and NOT reporting these actions while he was in Iraq is just as responsible for these criminal actions as his officers and by not reporting it he let more people die and suffer. I don't feel sorry for him at all. It is a case of a little too late. He should have been talking while in instead of participating. His "bravery" in talking is a joke. He has none. Not when it truly counts. His actions of ripping the metals off his chest are laughable. It means nothing.

I do agree with Patty, we need to get out of Iraq and bring the soldiers home. Bush really messed things up going over there.