The world has never seen such freezing heat

good god janforgore needs to calm down a bit haha bit tense maybe u need a massage, i bet u dream of al gore givin it too u lol.

anyway the dinosaurs were wiped out from a major DISASTER, and we are here now.

Point been that even if we do fuck up completely who gives cuz it ent goin to happen when im around. life/nature goes on an it doesn't need us to be here to sort it.

i burn petrol for fun, other people kill for fun some do it for a job. enjoy life and do what feels good for u at the time.

im going to have a cup o tea then rape and pillage in the next town

cherrio my yanky cousins from Calum all the way from Birmingham England

yo yo yo drop the drumm and bass speed garage funky house electro live for the tunes...

neck pills sniff copius amounts of coke fuck all night drink to my hearts content and die a happy man with all my memories confessin them to my catholic priest who buggerd me at a young age lol

Rigante Renegatus and Chelsea FC till i die... x x x

I have met Anthony Watts and have read many articles (his weather and political career) about him in our local papers. He is not someone who i would accept information from without a lot of corroboration.

that's why it should be called global weirding.

one faulty temperature reading does not discredit the rest of the overwhelming evidence that we are rapidly returning our atmosphere to a time when it did not and could not support human life

Just another reason to double check work, ALWAYS. It is no wonder at all that instruments sent to planets in System Sol get mucked up, we cannot even keep track of monthe to monthe data from different agencies on Earth; not to mention bickering over the matters - not having the backbone to admit their own faults - some succubus scientists make me want to hurl.

Sometimes it's hard to understand the global warming when temperatures are going down...

The facts are confusing yet true...

In the US it clearly wasn't the hottest on record yet globally it was. It's annoying to see that things are worded in a way to direct our feelings on an issue rather than let us make a decision ourselves. In defense of Janforgore, from a extremely concerned environmentalists' point of view this is just an example of an article coming along to try and hinder the progress of the environmental movement and downplay the importance of global warming. In defense of bedeboop, people posting at current are merely conduit of articles that may or may not be biased. Bringing either to the public forum does not make them responsible for "faulty perspective" or falsified data. Certainly in this case it was a legitimate article to bedeboop seeing as how much of the US was covered in some snow (we even got some here in NC :O and it has been chilly for some time now).

Personally I have been thrilled with my current environmental economics class and wish to continue studying such interesting material. Clearly we do need to invest (more) in the environment and abate emissions (methane, CO2 and H2O vapor) but I don't think that it is feasible to instantly switch. Sustainability is key and we do need to do something fast before we irreparably alter the worlds' systems.

Although Global Warming is real, ignorant people believe the earth is going to get hot and blah blah blah, when, really its all about the climate shift.
If Tibet is having the worse snowfall ever, that pretty much means the problem is real.

Good riddance ignies.

There are other factors at work perverting perspective that I haven't heard mentioned.
The weather in the first half of the 20th century was commented on at times ( then ) as being anomalous by historical standards for its lack of violent weather compared to historical reports.
The middle ages saw a 'mini ice age' - another wrenching the perception of 'normal'.
That's all well and good. The curator at the Smithsonian quit in disgust at the government's denial of a consensus by the scientific community that climate change was underway : predictions which had already been minimized so as not to seem extreme.
Later I heard precipitation would tend to migrate away from drought areas towards areas nearer the poles which already had more rain and snow.
The velocity of deep ocean currents has dropped. This is a conveyor of nutrients for sea life and a temperature leveler for the planet.
Polar ice hit a new low last year ( not quite as bad this ): reflectivity from snow and ice keeps things cooler : more heat would have been absorbed.
Science doesn't have popularity as a guide to accuracy BTW.

1. I believe in climate change as a natural phenomenon.

2. I also believe, that with over 6 billion people on this planet, using the resources like they have never been used before, the impact is humongous and devastating.

3. We need to learn how to use our resources more wisely.

4. Just because there does happen to be climate change as a natural process and phenomenon does not mean that is a reason to excuse how we treat our environment.

5. For those wanting to use that excuse....it is all climate change as a phenomenon and we as people have nothing to do with it....you are deluding yourself.

Public TV had a program which explained that a global warming and a global cooling (because pollution is blocking the sun's rays) is happening at the same time and it's the overall effect that's very detrimental. I'd could say more but I'm already over my head.

I placed this article on another climate change debate. They say knowledge is power, on this topic of conversation I disagree. Here is my stance on this global problem called climate change.

You should work out my assumption on this one perspective. It’s a hum dinger.
Climate change is a natural phenomenon, not one I entirely like. I am basing my ground work on the Sun, the moon and astrophysics. CFC’s and all of that good stuff are not the true cause of what you perceive to be happening. There is a shift occuring in normal global position. The earth’s rotation, pitch and magnetic hemispheres could be about to move how much is the debate. However it is not a media topic of conversation because it will simply imply too many questions about what if’s, buts and something called the 26000 year wobble otherwise known as a precession. Yet don’t read up on rubbish being put out on the internet. However do look at moon precipitation. You might understand there is more going on than a hole in the Ozone.

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/11/15/02833.html

I believe that sheep follow without reasoning, that is on pure instinct. So wouldn't that make you, and everyone else bashing science and Gore's reporting of it, a sheep? Poor choice of words. There is nothing wrong with opinion, that's why the article is in the oped section. "Global Wierding" does seem like a better descriptor, not only was it cold early in NY it also got extremely warm again and now it's extremely cold again. I've only live here for five years so i don't know if that is strange or not. Temperatures records are definitely rising though.

It was the hottest October GLOBALLY, which means including the whole world, not limiting it to a few northern hemisphere countries. So, even if it was fairly cold in the latter, it was unusually hot in many other places, bringing the average up.

Yep...read the article. Big OOPS! on the part of Dr. Hanson, but not really his fault.
FTA
"Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running."

Oh well...mistakes happen.

I don't mind the anger and frustration...I don't like being attacked. She ASSUMED I was in agreement with the idea of those who do not believe in global warming. This article is about a mistake a bunch of bozos made.

DID ANYONE BOTHER TO READ THE ARTICLE!?!??!?!

Global Warming is not exact. Its more like Global Weirding. The hots are getting hotter and the colds are getting colder. Hence, "he hottest October on record", and "Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures". This article disproves nothing.

Global warming is the average global temperature relative to itself over hundreds and thousands of years. If you are trying to understand it in terms of what happened yesterday, or last year, you don't get it.

I also fully understand the anger and frustration of people who have spent vast amounts of time trying to help people "get it," who are then confronted with "told ya so" articles from weak, to shitty sources, written by people with as little understanding of the issue as the people reading their articles.

Here, northern Wyoming not far from the Montana border, it is 37 degrees. Had two snowfalls so far, and while cool out it is sunny and beautiful. The temperature is about average for here at this time of year. We have also been in a drought for about ten years and a few days ago we were declared drought free once again. But....and this is a big but...I am in a basin/valley surrounded by mountains which have probably had snow almost every day, they get lots more than we do on the flatland. I can see it happening though when it does. :) Glad I am not up there too. It gets cold where I live more than getting snow, because of being in the valley I guess. In this particular area we get snow about five or six times a year and not much at that. Most is in the mountains surrounding us.

well there's a high of 50 today here in d.m. iowa. i've definitely noticed an unusual lack of ice on the roads and snow days that normally comes around this time of year.

cat fight....meow...meh...

Actually, it has been hotter overall. The temperature swings are much greater resulting in hotter and colder flashes and more violent weather systems. This is not an anomaly, this was predicted.

global warming is happening, just not for the reasons mr. gore tells all of the goresheep.

Well then Jan, just talk about the friggin' article then instead of attacking me! Kapische?

The effect of larger and more powerful winter storms is predicated on the increase of moisture held in the air as a result of global temperature increases and the larger gradient between high and low pressure fronts involved in the creation of severe weather such as tornadoes and blizzards. This year also saw a sad landmark in both deaths related to tornadic activity and the number and severity, all three were up from last year at this time so it stands to reason that the same would also potentialy be true accross the globe in relation to severe winter weather. This is not only consistent with climatological projections of global warming but is actualy further damning proof of its increasingly evident impact.

As two time pulitzer prize winner Tom Freidman the author of Hot Flat and Crowded put it, "Global Warming sounds like a good thing, that sounds like golf in November to us midwestern and new englanders. What it aught to be called is global wierding because that's what it is. It amounts to a distortion of the natural climate patern in which some areas see drastic shifts in both directions and the median temperature of the whole earth rises as a result."

diode:
They know more than you do about this.

bedeboop:
You put this here for discussion and that is what you got. Some of us take this seriously and have a very good grip on it. And I do read it all. That's how I know what's crap and what is not.

Well, I only put it out there because it goes against what main stream media posts. I believe global warming is happening...but I also know that where I live, in the North, we HAD SNOW LAST MONTH!!??! Sheesh. Companies and organizations are allowed some mistakes. (Not those that cost billions tho! Hehehehe I don't like them, especially when the money comes out of mine and other taxpayers pockets).

Sorry to bust your bubble but I think this has nothing to do with global warming. Let’s try to just put it down to a planetary sun cycle. After all have you been alive for the last 10000 years to tell otherwise. They know what is around the corner and it has nothing to do with our medalling.

don't worry, nasa knows everything right?

JanforGore...

It is put here for more discussion...nothing else. Get a grip. If everyone put only what they agree with and nothing else, they would not grow or learn. I don't limit myself...maybe you should not either. READ IT ALL! Not just one opinion or view point.

Perhaps you should try going to an actual scientific site like NASA to find the explanation instead of posting an article from a rag newspaper. It is colder here as well, but on the whole the EARTH has increased in warmth. All you need do is look at the Arctic to see that.

more proof of my theory that it's all a moneymaking scam by al manbearpig gore

if it is winter here, it would be summer in the southern hemisphere.

It was cold where I live and our first snow of the year was in October...so not sure what the powers that be were thinking in declaring a heat wave for that month. :) They were all in the tropics?? Heat went to their heads maybe?