Community | December 14, 2008 | 35 comments

Eye for an eye for acid attack victim in Iran

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TEHRAN -- Ameneh Bahrami once enjoyed photography and mountain vistas. Her work for a medical equipment company gave her financial independence. Several men had asked for her hand in marriage, but the hazel-eyed electrical technician had refused them all. "I wanted to get married, but only to the man I really loved," she said.

Four years ago, a spurned suitor poured a bucket of sulfuric acid over her head, leaving her blind and disfigured.

Late last month, an Iranian court ordered that five drops of the same chemical be placed in each of her attacker's eyes, acceding to Bahrami's demand that he be punished according to a principle in Islamic jurisprudence that allows a victim to seek retribution for a crime.

The implementation of corporal punishments allowed under Islamic law, including lashing, amputation and stoning, has often provoked controversy in Iran, where many people have decried such sentences as barbaric. This case is different.

Tehran journalist Asieh Amini, who writes about human rights and opposes the sentence, said protest has been muted because people have been moved by Bahrami's story. "It's hard not to get emotional over what has happened to her," Amini said.
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35 comments // Eye for an eye for acid attack victim in Iran

  • JaneDoe_1
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      JaneDoe_1  
    • Hi

      The attacker was treated very well under the rules of Shairi (Islamic law)

      This whole situation appears to have resulted because the attacker was a immature child who was raised or at least it appears to have been raised to believe he was the center of the universe. He acted as if he truely believed he had a right to demand the woman he wanted to marry. This suggest that he considered women as simple chattle, that they were unequal to men, regardless of what Islam teaches.

      This sanctioned blinding had to occur, because the option available to correct the injustice were few and inefficial, such as: a small bribe or possible judgement and imprisionment. No the blinding will act as a positive deterrent that the violent offender can and will be provided an eye for an eye.

      I find it ammusing that those who say and eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind, most often all of them have their own eye sight.

      You need to remember the victim could of required equal disfigurement as what happened to her....she did not so I think as a Muslim justice is being attempted here and that is all good.

    • 2 years ago
  • darkhorsejim
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      darkhorsejim  
    • These horrific acts perpetrated by men against woman illustrate this culture's values loud & clear. Men run the show & women are considered property without rights. I don't have an answer for these inexcusable acts, but who are we to tell another country/culture how to run their judicial system when we have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world? Especially with our blatantly prejudicial, biased & discriminatory arrest, incarceration & execution of non-whites. However, if I were arrested, I wouldn’t want to face any judicial system other than our own where you are innocent until proven guilty.

      Demographically, prison inmate population & execution rates don't even come close to matching up with the overall demographics of the U.S., clearly illustrating we need to fix our own broken judicial system before preaching the tenets of fairness to others. Fortunately & unfortunately, it's the responsibility of each country to make & enforce their own laws. Persecuted people & their support groups that give them a voice are necessary for permanent change so that these egregious acts of violence against women, or anyone, will no longer be culturally acceptable.

      Lady Justice's blindfold has always been loose enough to see who's being judged - in any country.

    • 3 years ago
  • Zurama
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      Zurama  
    • I'd say he is getting off easy. Perhaps these kinds of sentences will make others think twice, before doing this to a woman.

    • 3 years ago
  • Humdrum
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      Humdrum  
    • This punishment is better than he deserves. There are probably plenty of men over there who, in the heat of the moment, won't really care about going to prison (if that) for pouring acid on a woman - however, if they know they'll get the same hideous treatment they're dishing out, they'll be thinking twice, thrice, fifty f*cking times before letting their wounded egos turn them into a monster.

      I am under the impression that women are *generally* seen as "less than" over there - as "barbaric" as this punishment is, it does put her on equal footing with her male attacker, and it sets a great example (in my opinion). Think about how you'd feel if this happened to your sister over something as stupid as a refused marriage proposal.
      There are many problems in the world can't be fixed coddling or butterflies, and this is one of them.

    • 3 years ago
  • Jeffnfun631
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      Jeffnfun631  
    • I guess in western civilizations the laws are different but I do agree he should be punished for what he did and ruining someones life permanently.

    • 3 years ago
  • islek
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      islek  
    • He deserves the same pain if not worse than what this poor woman experienced. I guess the peacekeeper in me just wishes she could rise about the idea of revenge.

    • 3 years ago
  • Tygerr
  • mr_D_mcentyer
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      mr_D_mcentyer  
    • i cant believe people see a problem with this i mean if we delt this type punishment more often it would act as a deterent to people that are thinking of doing it, where i live people break the law every day because they know that they can get away with it, in the uk you can kill some one get sent down for 'life' and come out in less than 5 years now tell me is that fair punisment.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • This man took everything from this woman except for her actual life. But it may as well have been her life.

      She lost everything she had, her identity, her sense of self, her ability to marry, her ability to work. We cannot identify with the court system there, as we have a different life here, that allows for many more human rights.

      Iranian court ordered that five drops of the same chemical be placed in each of her attacker's eyes, acceding to Bahrami's demand that he be punished according to a principle in Islamic jurisprudence that allows a victim to seek retribution for a crime.

      At least the man was punished. Usually they are not punished at all.

      Yeah, and where are they getting all this acid from?

    • 3 years ago
  • fhassan
  • keviar
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      keviar  
    • a bit of a dilemna here. An age old question. The unrepentant anger of this woman is obvious. If it were me i would also demand that the person be punished severely.

    • 3 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • Gandhi said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind".

      There is a larger problem within the community. A segment of the population believes that a man has a right to throw acid on a woman given certain circumstances. Until the group think changes the problem remains.

    • 3 years ago
  • jh64487
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      jh64487  
    • unimatrix0:

      a lot of indians despise ghandi.

      also, his campaign wouldn't have worked if there also wasn't violent rebellion elsewhere and a very sympathetic audience in england.

      i think ghandi was awesome, but i don't think his teachings are necessarily universal

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • unimatrix0:

      Yeah and exactly how do you think these men are going to change if not being held accountable for their actions? Up until now they have not been even spent a day in jail for these crimes.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vezina29
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      Vezina29  
    • he deserves it...violence is a natural human trait and will always happen. Judgement is a way for society to decide how to control reactions by the masses...if there society deems gouging the dudes eyes out as acceptable punishment, than so be it

    • 3 years ago
  • jh64487
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      jh64487  
    • ok, let's be clear here, i'm not condoning anything...

      but where in the fuck do they get all this acid and when a woman see's a guy she pissed off carry any kind of liquid container towards her why isn't she pell-melling to the nearest police station?

      I would have voted to make him a quadriplegic and amputated his dick personally (but I'm not very forgiving either)

      as for locking him up, cruelty, violence begetting yada yada...the US has one of the highest crime rates in the developed world. it also has one of the higher percentages of the population in prison.

      ponder that...

    • 3 years ago
  • uponrooftops
  • MVDIEGO
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      MVDIEGO  
    • so what are they going to do? drop acid in his eyes and let him walk free...why not put him in a box for the rest fo his life and keep it simple and not rediculous.

      one step forward five steps back with these people!!!

    • 3 years ago
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  • malathion
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      malathion  
    • it's not punishment enough . doing this to a man doesn't entail the same consequences it does when done to a woman . the guy should be killed , or have his arms and legs cut off and sent back to his family ( him , not his arms and legs ) . sending him to prison is laughable .

    • 3 years ago
  • Zaffo
  • uponrooftops
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      uponrooftops  
    • Zaffo:

      there are places around like apothecaries that have chemicals to buy for relatively cheap in the middle east. i read another story about this a week ago, but most men get away with it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Dragunov316
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      Dragunov316  
    • I think I'll have to take a stand with the InformedTexan on this matter.

      My initial thought was that justice was served. I would have done the same thing. However, after some contemplation, "violence begets violence".

      Maybe better that he spend the rest of his life in prison, not being able to co-mingle in society.

    • 3 years ago
  • NorwegianHammer
  • div
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      div  
    • i think the problem is that we're looking at this situation with western values. he knew what might happen when he did this. it is criminal, disgusting, and horrific. he has grown in a culture where "an eye for an eye" is normal. he deserves what he gets.

      not that it makes it ok, of course. but i think he still deserves it.

    • 3 years ago
  • purplefox
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      purplefox  
    • div:

      I'm not sure we can call such anti-violent retaliation values as 'Western' when Western governments continue to wage war and violent campaigns, not to mention the continued existence torture and the death sentence.

      Besides, the idea of non-violent justice is just as much part of a lot of eastern philosophy as western. In fact, it can be found universally. I don't think cultural relativism-type arguments should apply where individuals are inflicting pain, damage and suffering on others (and this applies to both the perpetrators and the justice system).

    • 3 years ago
  • div
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      div  
    • div:

      Oh, I completely understand what you mean. I didn't at all mean that peaceful punishment is western thought only. I mean that the environment in which he grew up and the crime which he committed in that environment should be dealt with accordingly. We look at the crime and say it's a crime against women and he should only get jail and its so harsh etc.

      But really, its not that this is unprecedented where he lives. He has grown up in that area, and so we must understand that while it is not humane or ethical, the punishment must fit his crime according to his culture.
      My feeling is simply that he knew what might happen and did the crime anyway. He deserves no reprieve.

      I know it's cruel of me, but in cases like this, I am cruel.

    • 3 years ago
  • purplefox
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      purplefox  
    • I agree with Maitereya. As much as it's hard not to feel emotively that this is the attackers' just comeuppance, a wrong for a wrong can never be right. I mean, where do we draw the line? And what happens if there's a miscarriage of justice? An innocent person could potentially be blinded or otherwise mutilated as a result. Moreover, corporal and capital punishments such as these dehumanise the justice system and those who carry out the punishments - how can they claim to have any sort of moral high ground if they are doing the same things as the criminals, and not even in a passion, but through a cold, regulated system? I agree that people who do wrong should be punished, and severely if their crimes are great, but violence should never be the way.

    • 3 years ago
  • Maitereya
  • Hammerchop
  • arcticspirit
  • Tashi
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      Tashi  
    • I'm sort of at a loss... I agree that violence is not an appropriate response to violence, but it's hard not to think this guy is getting his comeupance.

    • 3 years ago
  • InformedTexan
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      InformedTexan  
    • I don't think the punishment is any less barbaric. It's counter-intuitive, in an effort to end violent use of acid as a weapon, to continue the violent behavior that they're attempting to stop. Violence only begets violence, regardless of crimes committed or retribution deserved. Peace can never be realized with government still willing to inject further violence into its own society.

    • 3 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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