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Iraqi journalist Muntazer al-Zaidi from Al-Baghdadia channel which broadcasts from Cairo hurled his stinky footwear at the President and called him a “dog”.

The video has been broadcast on just about every station. But, what wasn’t broadcast was the subsequent apologies to President Bush by other Iraqi journalists in the room.

“Thanks for apologizing on behalf of the Iraqi people,” President Bush replied in a classic show of maturity and strength. “It doesn’t bother me. If you want the facts, it was a size 10 shoe that he threw”.

Isn’t it interesting that for the past five years the liberals have been calling for a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq.
At a time when we would have left our heads in shame had the President followed their ignorant guidance, he remained strong and understood the stakes.

Now, those same people seek to cast the recent vote to withdraw troops as proof the Iraqi people don’t want us there instead of an admission that we have succeeded in getting rid of Saddam and bringing peace to the country.

Had it not been for us that man that threw the shoe would be hung by a thick rope or, at the very least, tortured to death.

Mr. Maliki went on to tell anyone listening that “Iraq no longer represents a threat to world peace and security.” For decades, the entire Middle East feared what Saddam’s next move might be.

His neighbors maintained a constant vigil and the entire world walked on eggshells hoping they weren’t forced into another confrontation. No longer is that the case.

Responding to questions about “Shoegate”, the President noted that many of the Iraqis in attendance noted that the deranged man doesn’t “represent the Iraqi people.” Since the “Iraqi” man was a journalist for a station in Cairo, it speaks volumes.

It’s also proof that Iraq if truly now a free society, though threats of violence are not to be welcome in free societies.
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  • starr111
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      starr111  
    • What Americans don't realize is that among educated they are 50/50 on the war (normal) the regulars are 40/60against.

      It is an insult to disrepect a geust, and he disrespected the president's guest. Many muslims want to see this government work. The sunnis are vested in it. The Shi'its not so much. Let's hope they get some power in the legislature.

      In short, what Bush said was right, this happens in free countries and we, they, and he should all be grateful this was displayed for this reason alone. Its almost a show of victory for us. Democracy exists in Iraq. wooo.

      Now will they not torture him and give him some classes a fine or some community service hours. He was an Egyptian citizen for allah's sake!

    • 4 years ago
  • JuliusBC
  • Meaghan1126
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      Meaghan1126  
    • Now that Bush is leaving office, I kind of like him (a little). Not as a President but just as a human being. He's kind of cute and he's just a regular guy. I feel bad for him, getting a shoe thrown at your head kinda sucks.

      But then again so does fighting in an unnecessary war...

    • 4 years ago
  • PlatoTacius
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      PlatoTacius  
    • No matter how you put it, Bush is an erroneous bungler and we're much better off to soon be rid of him. To those who think he is a good guy and has done the right thing during his two usurped terms, you are brainwashed beyond recovery. Bush doesn't give a hoot about you, your faith in him or any of the good people of this planet. He only cares about the money and having made more than his misguided daddy did...

      The guy was right to throw his shoes in insult to Bush. It shows the truth about how many people feel toward the blatant betrayal of the public trust that Bush and his cabal have thrust upon us all...

      The Immortals cried the day that Bush and Cheney took office, for they knew that the transgression would be great...and now we know that so much potential for peace and prosperity has been squandered for the egoist selfishness of those that have ruled our country insidiously for the last eight years...

    • 4 years ago
  • JuliusBC
  • trth2pwr
  • soleil10
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      soleil10  
    • Why so many currentists posting here wish Saddam was still in charge of Irak ?

      Do you feel the same about Zimbabwe. Should someone take Mugabe out ?

      and my last question:

      Will one story in favor of President Bush make it to #1 in Current top 20 before it is removed ?

    • 4 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • soleil10:

      I'm not sure anyone wants there to be a dictator in Iraq. But that's not the reason why we went into Iraq, we went there for false allegations of having a nuclear program that never existed. We were lied to...

      And if we did go in there just to free Iraq then why didn't we go to Cuba, which is 90 miles away? You don't have to look too far for dictatorships.

    • 4 years ago
  • soleil10
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • soleil10:

      What are you talking about? Im not sure you understood what I said.

      Im saying that IF we went into Iraq only because it was a dictatorship... why didn't we INSTEAD go to Cuba to remove Castro?

      But we all know that we went in there to look for WMD which weren't there... we were lied to. And yet you still follow these people who fooled you.

    • 4 years ago
  • pcmedic931
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      pcmedic931  
    • is it me or are there no secret service men jumping in the line of fire or wisking him away to safety.... had that shoe been a fire arm bush wouldn't be here!!!!!!!!!!!!! where was presidential security??? the guy got off two shoe throws...... thats what??????? emptying a 15 round berreta?

    • 4 years ago
  • soleil10
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      soleil10  
    • I did not support the war in Irak but I did not like 25 millions people in Irak being tortured, killed and suffering under Saddam Hussein and his two sons.

      People who have been killed under Saddam died for not reason.

      Hopefully people who gave their life or were killed during the war did not died for nothing. The future will tell.

      Give me liberty or death !!

      Many were killed by their own people not by Americans.

    • 4 years ago
  • OncleLogan
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      OncleLogan  
    • soleil10:

      The thing is they never asked for this. It is so arrogant to think it is ok to say "liberty or death" in someone else's name. There was peace in Irak in 2002. if we start a regime-change in every country that has a leader who once abused his people, you are basically calling for global constant war.
      turn off Fox5

    • 4 years ago
  • tim4672
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      tim4672  
    • soleil10:

      Ya know, when we wanted freedom from tyranny, we fuckin' took it. Considering that just about everyone over is issued an AK47 at birth, they can fight for their own freedom. Especially when they don't want OUR definition of freedom and have been screaming this at the world since the beginning of this war. When you invade a country and change their way of life, you are basically committing genocide. When you change the way of life of a nation, the future of that nation will be led by someone representing someone elses definition of freedom and what someone else calls right. The way they have done things for thousands of years changes, all tradition and beliefs are gone and so is a people. I'd like to see your reaction if say, there was a country who could overpower us as we have been doing to everyone who stands in our way of making more money and and seizing power, and they invaded us, destroyed our government and simply said to the American people "You will do it this way from now on or you will be considered an enemy of the state, hunted, and killed. Forget the way you used to do it, your countries history and pride mean nothing anymore". WOW, it really sounds like we are spreading democracy right.....no right to your own opinions? I'm so sure you would support that invasion also. It is easy to support the slaying of innocent people as long as it is not anyone you care about and it's not you, gee that's a surprise. You should take the next flight over there and find out what you're talking about. The world is reading this post not just a bunch of gung-ho, kill 'em all neo-cons.

    • 4 years ago
  • carligula
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      carligula  
    • Fuck Bush!​ Congr​atula​tions​ to the journ​alist​ who did what most wish they could​ do but dont have the oppor​tunit​y or the coura​ge to do it. He apologized because Bush is crazy and will probably find weapons of mass destruction in his home and have him bombed.

      We must never​ forge​t what this man has done to the world​!​ We must not allow​ histo​ry books​ to heroi​fy his explo​itati​on of the U.S. presi​dency​,​ his rape of the const​ituti​on,​ and nonex​isten​t consi​derde​ratio​n for human​ life.​ These final attempts to mold his legacy are bullshit and I hope no one is falling for it.

      This man deser​ves more than a shoe throw​!​ He deser​ves to spend​ the rest of his life in priso​n,​ rotti​ng in his own filth​y and pathe​tic excus​e of a human​ body.​ Death​ would​ be too easy of an exit.​

    • 4 years ago
  • walski
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      walski  
    • Good job troops and thank you. I know so many of these ignorant posts did not live nor bother to really educate themselves about this war and other such conflicts. This fight(Iraq) started in the 70's w/JFK and other dem.s sticking their nose where it didn't need to be.

      But most importantly I thank you for not listening to flaky liberals that would've pulled our troops minutes after they voted to send them in. Our generation will not be stuck with the same stigmata as Vietnam. No, Iraqis are not clinging to our helicopter praying that we stay or take them with us, like they did when we left unfinished business in Vietnam. Maybe the fight in Iraq wasn't the best thing for us but Obama, Biden and so many other democrat politicians supported it early on and the right thing to do was finish it.

      So good for you journalists who insult Bush, that is a right that he gave you and soldiers, U.S. & Iraqi, died for. Telling a politician 'up yours' is a good feeling and a right Iraqis now have.

    • 4 years ago
  • PlatoTacius
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      PlatoTacius  
    • walski:

      walski, you are very confused. JFK was assasinated in 1963, so couldn't have been around to start anything with Iraq in the seventies. It was your erroneous republican backed CIA that supported Saddam and made him the terror that he later became...

      If it weren't for respectable Progressives in this country promoting more responsible policies than those of the wacko right-wingers then we all would have already been bombed into oblivion, but there is some vestige of respect for this country even after Bushes illegal occupation of Iraq to get control of the OIL...so, don't be forever fooled by right-wing talking points...

    • 4 years ago
  • jomahu
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      jomahu  
    • i believe in nonviolence, but i think people need to disrupt a lot more. kudos to the journalist, and i hope those shoes weren't sweat-shop-made Nikes.

    • 4 years ago
  • Leonidis
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      Leonidis  
    • Bush invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9-11 therefore all the innocent people died in vain over 1 million men women and CHILDREN!It was an ILLEGAL WAR according to our constitution! I think Bush should be apologising to the people of Iraq.Thats it thats all I have to say about that.

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • And as a final comment here to clarify, I stand with the journalist who threw his shoes and wish the American people and Congress had thrown the book at him. Those shoes represent the souls (no pun intended) of many people who died for the military industrial complex and PNAC who should never have had to die. And to those who think Bush is a 'nice guy,' you are fools and partisan political enablers of a gross crime against the people of Iraq. Shame on you all.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Weakened by pollution, GMOs, all relevant... And perhaps it isn't the fault of the people that they like American Idol over watching a news conference, or a show about the American Revolution, or taking time to actually read it. Perhaps that spark that the Colonists had in them despite smallpox and other diseases killing them off, and the backbreaking labor they did everyday, and the constant barrage of cannon fire from British ships, and slavery, and the host of other ills they had to suffer actually made them stronger and gave them that spirit, which again comes back to my point.The current circumstances shouldn't make us tired or weak, they should be incensing us to get up and do something about it. Perhaps the tide will turn now? I surely hope so, but that doesn't mean I will personally not remember this time in history as a time when we failed as a people to do the right thing, irrespective of this last 'election' which is yet to be seen to its fruition. Thanks for the discussion.

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Not everyone has your strength and courage, JanforGore. In colonial times, at least the people weren't weakened by pollution, GMO foods, and all the other issues you so valiantly fight for.

      Not everyone has your intelligence and level of education, either - in fact, few do.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • I hold down two jobs, one outside the home and one in it and my husband also holds down two jobs and is very tired, yet we find the time to care about this country. And actually, it was also Democrats as well as Republicans in Congress who voted for the Bankruptcy Bill that didn't exactly help all of those people holding down two jobs. Those on both sides who voted for the war, those who voted to fund it, those who voted to increase the military budget while cutting funds to the poor, those who continued to allow Bush to take more power (Democrats stood right behind him as he signed the Military Commissions Act) continually acquiescing to him. These plans could not have been accomplished without enabling from others.

      Anyone who also knows the history of America knows that the Colonists who lived in America at the time of the American Revolution worked a hell of a lot harder every day to survive than we have to with our modern conveniences, and they still found time to forge a country built on the principles of Democracy and accountability. Now fatigue is to be the excuse to pardon us? People supposedly came out in droves to vote for Obama. Where was that energy when it was needed most? And will it be here now that election day is gone?

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Another factor, JanforGore, is the fact that due to the way the Bush administration handled the economy (on purpose, I reckon), a great many Americans have to hold down two or more jobs just to survive and are therefore too damn tired and have too little time to keep themselves informed or do anything about the situation.

      I am not suggesting that a huge swath of the American people are not to be held accountable, I merely pointed out that a significant swath of Americans did do their best to hold Congress accountable. It is not as if Congress was reelected with 100% of votes.

      The shoes episode is far, far more significant for the Iraqis and Arabic countries than it is for Americans.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • And you cannot absolve all Americans by any means. And yes, we held Congress so accountable that we voted them back in again. And we continue to just talk. And we continue to watch MSM and FOX NEWS. And we continue to place issues of importance on the backburner to spend weeks talking about insignificant things that do nothing to further anything substantial.

      I do know full well that there were some groups that stood up for justice as I was a part of them, and I think you know from my posts here that was not what I meant. ON THE WHOLE, the people of this country have been nothing but selfish, apathetic, lazy people living in denial who care more about watching American Idol than holding their government accountable for crimes against humanity and misdemeanors against our constitution.

      And what now? Is a pair of shoes being thrown at a war criminal the best we are going to get? Even with 'change' coming? I think so as Bush will be allowed to slink to his 2 million dollar home and live quietly as if nothing happened. What is wrong with that picture? So please don't tell me that a huge swath of the American people are not to be held accountable along with Congress for him being able to stand at that podium yesterday, for that is surely an assault on reason.

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • In all fairness, JanforGore, a great many courageous Americans tried their damnedest to hold Congress accountable, and fought hard with whatever means they had against the Bush administration. You cannot impugn all Americans, by any means.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Perhaps if the people of this country spending mounds of time talking about this now had actually gotten together and held Congress accountable to their constitutional oaths to IMPEACH him and walked their talk he wouldn't have been standing there in the first place.

      I find it totally hypocritical of people to be so gleeful of this when they shirked their duty as citizens of this country. Bush may well be a "dog" but he is a dog who has done everything he has done and secured the power he has with the consent of the people of this country! That is why this is really all so anti climactic to me now. Shame on the American people and the Congress of this country for allowing him and his minions the opportunity they had to bring us and Iraq to the place they are now. No one pair of shoes absolves us from that.

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • The point being that it was not the same journalist that threw the shoe that apologized and no word yet about the actual consequences that the shoe thrower has faced.

      No mention that a couple Iraqi security guards in suits took away two more Iraqi journalists because one of them called Zaidi's protest "courageous."

      How biased is either report, the protest or the apology?

    • 4 years ago
  • wordless
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      wordless  
    • apparently, these were his words when he threw the shoes:
      First shoe: "this is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog!"
      Second shoe: "This is for the widows and orphans and all those killed in Iraq."

      and even though the bushwhack acted rather blasé about it, i've read that the shoe-thrower was severely beaten and i don't know for sure whether he's free yet or not... act like you're just a normal dude and then turn around and bomb a country to the stone age and fascistically stomp on our faces... hey bush, man, like, real cool, dude, bro.

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Katanajon
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      Katanajon  
    • Head up Soleil10, The messenger always gets slain when the message is worth hearing. But , I'll take substance over soft porn here any day. Some of us would rather see this than a video of Amy Winehouse smoking crack.

    • 4 years ago
  • soleil10
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      soleil10  
    • The point of this post is that all the medias reported that a journalist threw his shoes at President Bush but they did not report that the other journalists apologied.

      We are constantly fed slanted information and just cannot trust what we see or hear.

    • 4 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
  • Katanajon
  • arcticspirit
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • Ive always been against Bush's polices ever since he invaded Iraq, and especially when I found out that there were no WMD.

      But I actually feel sorry for Bush. Some people think that he deserves no sympathy, but I reserve some for even him. The man was a total failure but he does not deserve the burning hate some people feel towards him.

      The people that really deserve the blame are the ones that voted him in, and especially those that voted for him twice. Bush just wasn't made to be a good leader...

      People that voted for him twice are the most to blame for the mess that our country is in now. Now its time to move on and hopefully never make the mistake of electing a Texas cowboy folksy guy into office again.

      And one last thing..... Palin would be just the same IMO.

      And one last last thing... The article is mispelled... Its "Iraqi" not "Iraki". Your're a Bush supporter and it shows =P... (joke)

    • 4 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • UrbanGypsy:

      Many chemical and bio WMDs have been found and destroyed safely in Iraq. Most were so unstable they could not be moved. They needed to be destroyed. I have seen footage of some of this a few times.

      These are the same kind of WMDs that had been used against the Kurdish people 44+ times that we have documents of..

      Just because they didn't find a nuke, doesn't mean that we didn't find and destroy WMD's. That is such a misconception that was spread by the left for the most part so that that they would win the elections.

      And I firmly think Iraq was an important war to fight. I agree with all the military advances we have made in the middle east the last 8 years.

    • 4 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • UrbanGypsy:

      First to Steven44,

      That's not what I wanted to get across, you can live how you want. What I have a problem is when people elect a president SOLELY on those reasons and ignored his inability to be a competent leader... which many people did, even after 4 years. And look at us now...

      I personally prefer my president to be special... but Bush has not done anything with this country that shows that he's anything more than an average chump...

      He has no great speeches, he's left no great surplus, he done nothing for the environment, he's won no allies. Just look at our country.

      Again, perhaps I came across the wrong way. What I meant to say was that people shouldn't elect people on that alone... I saw many conservatives doing the same for Palin too.

    • 4 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • UrbanGypsy:

      @arcticspirit

      If we remember well, We went in to Iraq because we were searching for uranium tubes that could be used for NUCLEAR weapons.

      For example, Vice President Dick Cheney's September 2002 statement on Meet the Press that "we do know, with absolute certainty, that he (Saddam) is using his procurement system to acquire the equipment he needs in order to enrich uranium to build a nuclear weapon"

      There you go. He said "nuclear weapon" specifically. And perhaps you remember the scandal that unfolded with the "Yellowcake uranium" that Saddam had supposedly purchased from Niger, which turned out to be false...

      And furthermore, in regards to the fabricated ties between Al Qaeda and Saddam, the consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship, and that consensus is backed up by reports from the independent 9/11 Commission, declassified Defense Department reports as well as by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, whose 2006 report of Phase II of its investigation into prewar intelligence reports concluded that there was no evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

      Here are my sources,

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/05/AR2007040502263....

      http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/saddam-had-no-links-to-alqaeda/2006/09/09/11...

      In regards to the weapons that were found...These assertions were directly contradicted by weapons experts David Kay, the original director of the Iraq Survey Group, and his successor Charles Duelfer. Both Kay and Duelfer made clear that the chemical weapons found were not the "weapons of mass destruction" that the U.S. was looking for and that their discovery did not suggest a broader chemical weapons stockpile or an ongoing weapons program under Saddam Hussein.

      Kay added that experts on Iraq's chemical weapons are in "almost 100 percent agreement" that sarin nerve agent produced in the 1980s would no longer be dangerous and that the chemical weapons found were "less toxic than most things that Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point".

      The degraded chemical weapons were first discovered in May 2004, when a binary sarin nerve gas shell was used in an improvised explosive device (roadside bomb) in Iraq. The device exploded before it could be disarmed, and two soldiers displayed symptoms of minor sarin exposure.

      In July 2004, Polish troops also found evidence of degraded chemical weapons when they discovered insurgents trying to purchase cyclosarin gas warheads produced during the Iran-Iraq war. In their efforts to thwart insurgents acquiring these weapons, Polish troops purchased two rockets on June 23, 2004. But the U.S. military later determined that the two rockets had only trace elements of sarin that were so small and deteriorated as to be virtually harmless and would have "limited to no impact if used by insurgents against coalition forces"

      The point being that many of these supposed weapons of mass destruction were not the deadly weapons claimed to be and neither were they the original weapons mentioned in the faulty intelligence.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3861197.stm

      I cannot believe that I have to repeat what has been going on for the past 8 years again. I thought this was all common knowledge. Bush's decision is undefendable and yet people defend him.

      I'm against the Iraq war but while I recognize that we now have an obligation to restoring that country, I do not forget that we were led to war on the backs of lies...

      We can both agree that Iraq is WORTH SAVING! Yes! I agree! Espcially now that we're there. But my point is that we shouldn't be there in the first place.

    • 4 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • I think President Bush handled this so well. He is misunderstood and that bothers me. When I saw the video of the "shoe attack" I was impressed by our president's reflexes and calm reaction.

      My thoughts echo much of what was said in the article above.

      Just because he didn't make decisions using opinion polls, this did not make him a bad president. He doesn't deserve the HATE spewed at him on current.com.

    • 4 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • arcticspirit:

      Mostly people are angry and disappointed with Bush not becuase he didn't follow opinion polling but because he's made bad decisions.

      Attacking Iraq when it had no WMD was bad regardless of whether or not the opinion polls supported it or not. Don't you agree that going into Iraq was a mistake?\

      And mostly, Americans are agnry at him because he refuses to acknowledge that he's made any...

    • 4 years ago
  • Katanajon
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      Katanajon  
    • arcticspirit:

      NO, most of the Americans that hate him are the ones who have been crying since GORE lost recount. These people and the Media never gave BUSH a chance. Iraq is better off, but too many people have died. Lets rap it up.

    • 4 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • arcticspirit:

      Many chemical and bio WMDs have been found and destroyed safely in Iraq. Most were so unstable they could not be moved. They needed to be destroyed. I have seen footage of some of this a few times.

      These are the same kind of WMDs that had been used against the Kurdish people 44+ times that we have documents of..

      Just because they didn't find a nuke, doesn't mean that we didn't find and destroy WMD's. That is such a misconception that was spread by the left for the most part so that that they would win the elections.

      And I firmly think Iraq was an important war to fight. I agree with all the military advances we have made in the middle east the last 8 years.

    • 4 years ago
  • Lazybones
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      Lazybones  
    • arcticspirit:

      The media? I believe the media was on bush's side for awhile during the whole WMD and Saddam deal. Unless you watch FOX, in which case they don't care who they support as long as it is a republican.

      I don't see how Iraq is better off anyways. Estimates of 500,000 to 1,000,000 people dead not to mention the hundreds of thousands of refugees that were forced to flee from their homes because their city was getting bombed. If you do some research, Saddam was a FRIENDLY to the US before 9/11, he had nothing to do with 9/11, and he knew how to control all three tribes in Iraq - something we or the new iraqi govt. will never be able to do.

      I believe if a country that the US doesn't support, were to invade another country on false grounds, kill hundreds of thousands of people and continue to occupy the country while it looks to sort out things to its benefit, you as well as the whole public and the US administration would be outraged.

    • 4 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • arcticspirit:

      @arcticspirit

      If we remember well, We went in to Iraq because we were searching for uranium tubes that could be used for NUCLEAR weapons.

      For example, Vice President Dick Cheney's September 2002 statement on Meet the Press that "we do know, with absolute certainty, that he (Saddam) is using his procurement system to acquire the equipment he needs in order to enrich uranium to build a nuclear weapon"

      Here's the entire transcript:

      http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/bush/meet.htm

      There you go. He said "nuclear weapon" specifically. And perhaps you remember the scandal that unfolded with the "Yellowcake uranium" that Saddam had supposedly purchased from Niger, which turned out to be false...

      And furthermore, in regards to the fabricated ties between Al Qaeda and Saddam, the consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship, and that consensus is backed up by reports from the independent 9/11 Commission, declassified Defense Department reports as well as by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, whose 2006 report of Phase II of its investigation into prewar intelligence reports concluded that there was no evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

      Here are my sources,

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/05/AR2007040502263....

      http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/saddam-had-no-links-to-alqaeda/2006/09/09/11...

      In regards to the weapons that were found...These assertions were directly contradicted by weapons experts David Kay, the original director of the Iraq Survey Group, and his successor Charles Duelfer. Both Kay and Duelfer made clear that the chemical weapons found were not the "weapons of mass destruction" that the U.S. was looking for and that their discovery did not suggest a broader chemical weapons stockpile or an ongoing weapons program under Saddam Hussein.

      Kay added that experts on Iraq's chemical weapons are in "almost 100 percent agreement" that sarin nerve agent produced in the 1980s would no longer be dangerous and that the chemical weapons found were "less toxic than most things that Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point".

      The degraded chemical weapons were first discovered in May 2004, when a binary sarin nerve gas shell was used in an improvised explosive device (roadside bomb) in Iraq. The device exploded before it could be disarmed, and two soldiers displayed symptoms of minor sarin exposure.

      In July 2004, Polish troops also found evidence of degraded chemical weapons when they discovered insurgents trying to purchase cyclosarin gas warheads produced during the Iran-Iraq war. In their efforts to thwart insurgents acquiring these weapons, Polish troops purchased two rockets on June 23, 2004. But the U.S. military later determined that the two rockets had only trace elements of sarin that were so small and deteriorated as to be virtually harmless and would have "limited to no impact if used by insurgents against coalition forces"

      The point being that many of these supposed weapons of mass destruction were not the deadly weapons claimed to be and neither were they the original weapons mentioned in the faulty intelligence.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3861197.stm

      I cannot believe that I have to repeat what has been going on for the past 8 years again. I thought this was all common knowledge. Bush's decision is undefendable and yet people defend him.

      I'm against the Iraq war but while I recognize that we now have an obligation to restoring that country, I do not forget that we were led to war on the backs of lies...

      We can both agree that Iraq is WORTH SAVING! Yes! I agree! Especially now that we're there. But my point is that we shouldn't be there in the first place.

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • jh64487
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      jh64487  
    • "Had it not been for us that man that threw the shoe would be hung by a thick rope or, at the very least, tortured to death."

      I'm honestly laughing at the naivete of the this statement. had it not been for us this man's family wouldn't have been executed by roving shia death squads (or blasted apart by sunni extremists). had it not been for us his family wouldn't be living in a slum in syria or jordan desperately trying to figure out how to survive, most likely with a family member who needs medical attention they can't afford. best case scenario, his family lives in a house that gets electricity and maybe water for an hour or two a day, he's somehow managed to avoid the terrorists, gunslinging soldiers and mercs and unlike a large percentage of the population he even has a job. wowzers! but it's almost inconceivable that he hasn't had someone he's close to slaughtered in the the past 7 years.

      and whoever wrote this has the audacity to sniff because he isn't properly grateful. slave-master mentality still runs deep in this country. how DARE they not be properly grateful and respectful for all that's we've given them!!

      as long as i'm ranting. cairo? what in bleeps name does that say about anything? the egyptians are one of our strongest allies in the region. they've turned their back on the the palestinian cause in order to stay in the good graces of israel. whoever wrote this must've been high on some pretty heavy stuff

      and the journalists apologizing. hahahahaaha, cause they normally let people who hate the prez's guts into these things. hahahahaahahahahahahah, they're as staged as the images of the statue of saddam being pulled down.

      ...hahahahahahahahahahaahahah

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Ragan
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      Ragan  
    • I wouldn't dignify such a neo-con. If these people are free then why are so many still dieing and being blown up? Where is all of this peace and at what price for this unpeace. It is far from over over there. 5,000 American dead and thousands left handicapped for life plus the thousands of innocent dead Iraqi's are not worth this kind of peace. Better Bush had stayed in Bagdad with his legacy.

    • 4 years ago
  • Lazybones
  • FallenMorgan
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      FallenMorgan  
    • Bush IS a dog. He fucked up the country more than any other president. Most of the nation hates him, too. He deserves to have smelly shoes flung at him, he destroyed what America once was. He destroyed the economy, and our national reputation. He's a stupid fuck, who got to where he is because his daddy pulled strings.

    • 4 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • FallenMorgan:

      I hope you feel better.
      You are among people who will happily spew hate at President Bush.
      But I am not one of them. I think he is just misunderstood. He did what was right. He just didn't have the PR down. Only difference. He didn't give a shit about that part. Yeah it came to PR.

    • 4 years ago
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