Israel admits use of phosphorus shells in Gaza

Furthermore, I'd like to see you feed your wife and six kids on $300 a month, even in Gaza - when food happens to be available.

What are you using - a dictionary for first graders? Here, educate yourself:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gullible

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/gullible

http://www.english-test.net/asvab/vocabulary/words/016/asvab-definitions.php#gul...

http://www.yourdictionary.com/gullible

http://www.wordcentral.com/cgi-bin/student_clean?va=gullibility

You have yet to see one starving Palestinian kid? Go and live in Gaza for six months, you'll see plenty. They get $300 a month? You are very gullible if you believe that.

Hey Viera. gullible isn't in the dictionary. I have yet to see one starving Palistinian kid. They get 300 US dollars per person per month. Now wouldn't Shelly Winters like some of that cash.

Israel has blockaded Gaza for the last year and a half. They are STILL keeping 1.5 million people in a JAIL, only they do not have to pay for it, as Egypt and other countries are smuggling basic emergency rations in.

A Catholic bishop said; GAZA IS A HOLOCAUST CONCENTRATION CAMP...

If you as a Palestinian were trapped and could not get out of this hell hole, no food, no water, no hospital, no electricity, no work, and an enemy doing this to you, plus violating a 'peace treaty' that said the borders would be open, what would you do? The Israelis never honored their side of the last peace treaty, and it looks like more of the same this time around.

I am sure you as an Israeli would sit and just take it, if the Palestinians were doing this to you, right?

Now the atrocities are on the Israeli side, with toxic and highly radioactive DU weapons that keep killing for 10,000 years, phoshorus bombs, starving and bombing 1.5 million civilians, DIM bombs that cause cancer and death if any particle of their titanium load gets into whoever is around, plus violating cease fires and keeping a whole country in a locked down prison.

And the Israelis are worried about a couple of homemade rockets?

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When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it? : Eleanor Roosevelt

I watched a doc on Channel 4 inside Gaza last night and cried. They better pay big time for their atrocious actions.

Im happy to see people are actually starting to give a shit, the Palestinians have been suffering for too long now.

It is hillarious that you people are screaming all this nonsense. For god sakes its a war. If wars were fought like liberals wanted only flowers and water balloons would be aloud. The cold hard facts about war is that its not fun. Nothing about war is fun, but it is nessesary to put people in there place.

This is all Hamas has to do...

Stop the random attacks with useless outdated ww2 like rockets, and the fury that is Israel will stop killing you 1000 at a time.

Israel and America have one thing in common, which people conistantly make the stupid mistake of doing. Kill one of us ATLEAST one 100 in return.

That simple.

God Bless the United States and her allies.

Last thing.. Do you know how wars are truly won?

Make your enemy suffer so much that they have no choice but to stop. Obviously Hamas and their supportes were willing to suffer as they continued to fire rockets across the fence.

Was the daily terror of 3000 Qassam rockets and mortars falling into civilian neighborhoods in the last year alone not justification enough for self-defense? Should Israel have continued to wait until a school or daycare center was struck, forcing Israel to play, in the words of Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, "Russian Roulette with its children?" Were not the 425 attacks between 2000 and 2004 on Israel that wounded more than 2,000 and killed nearly 400 civilians adequate in their lethality and seriousness to indicate the unrelenting jihad that defines Hamas´ existence? Note that Hamas´ shelling of civilian targets within Israel´s borders clearly violates international law, even though world observers have been oddly silent on those transgressions. Palestinian terrorism is not a plea to Israel to relieve material needs, but rather a demand to die so that a select group of radical Islamists can realize their spiritual wants.

thats good to hear them gettin israel in on war crimes now it time for bush to!!!!!!!

It's getting really hard for supporters of Israel's war to find solid ground.

I know firsthand Israel blocks innocent children from hospitals.

Ahh, but Palestine is in the UN, every day, crying about being hungry while getting more aid than everyone else. And Hamas spills blood with no repercussions. Some small cartriges do not a case make. I'm sure Israel will comply with International law, therefore there is an investigation. But there will be none of the bloody murderous Hamas. Not even for the Fatah men they killed.

What is going on with the war crimes? We're opening Pandora's Box with this total lack of morality (if you can have such a thing in war). This is unacceptable and is getting completely out of control. I'm blaming Bush. He started it (and probably supplied it).

You really think they intended to kill their own soldiers?

If you're going to prin something, you should maybe tell the truth about the whole story. Like title it: Israel probes the use of Phosphorus munitions while Hamas refuses to allow international troops into Gaza.

According to senior army officers, the IDF used two phosphorus-based weapons in Gaza. One, the sources said, actually contains almost no phosphorus. These are simple smoke bombs - 155mm artillery shells - with a trace of phosphorus to ignite them.

Alkalai's probe is thus focusing on the second type: phosphorus shells, either 81mm or 120mm, that are fired from mortar guns. About 200 such shells were fired during the recent fighting, and of these, according to the probe's initial findings, almost 180 were fired at orchards in which gunmen and rocket-launching crews were taking cover.

The one problematic incident was the reserve paratroops brigade that fired about 20 such shells in a built-up area of Beit Lahiya. Many international organizations say phosphorus shells should not be used in heavily populated areas. The brigade's officers, however, say the shells were fired only at places that had been positively identified as sources of enemy fire.

The 120mm shells, a recent acquisition, have a computerized targeting system attached to a GPS. Brigade commanders say they were very effective, but they were also responsible for two very serious mishaps: a strike on a UNRWA school that killed 42 Palestinians and a friendly fire incident that seriously wounded two officers.

Yes yes and it is a violation of international law to send rockets at kindergardens, use human sheilds, steal rations, and block people from going to the hospital, what's Hamas's excuse??? Oh yeah, freedom. Sounds like a similar argument. Enough! Some politicians on both sides could use a few days in prison. But Utimately the Jewish people and Palestinian people need to make peace. No more racial hatred or religious hatred and more schools, roads and bridges. I'm sure Israel will be happy to foot the bill as they have built every college in Palestine.

No excuses!!

It's a violation of International Law to use white phosphorus in residential neighborhoods.

This means that war crimes have been commited by Israel.

There ARE ALWAYS accusations of war crimes--from the Left--whenever America or Israel is involved.

"I do not like Hamas. I detest religious fundamentalism and the use of suicide bombers. I find the group’s anti-Semitism and ruthless silencing of internal Palestinian opponents repugnant. The rocket attacks on Israeli civilians are a war crime. But this does not negate the legitimacy of Palestinian resistance to the long Israeli siege and occupation of Gaza."

"The moral scum of any society rises to the surface in war. Those who have a penchant for violence and an access to weapons dominate the landscape. It was the criminal class and gangsters who first organized the defense of Sarajevo. It was the thugs of Gaza who took control to confront the Israeli army. This is nothing new in wartime. Violence is a disease, a disease that corrupts all who use it regardless of the cause. But there are moments when a people face the terrible tragedy of resistance or obliteration. This was true in Sarajevo. It is true for the Palestinians. It does not make it pretty or good. It is what happens."

Peace Is in the Eye of the Beholder

Posted on Jan 19, 2009 By Chris Hedges
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090119_peace_is_in_the_eye_of_the_beholder...

wonder when they will admit to the depleted uranium? Depleted or not, its still dangerous to people and the environment....

Other parts of the article an honest person might mention:

The mortar system is guided by GPS and according to Israel a failure of the targeting system may have been responsible for civilian deaths. However, critics point out the same explanation was used for mis-targeting deaths in Beit Hanoun in Gaza in 2006.

The brigade's officers, however, added that the shells were fired only at places that had been positively identified as sources of enemy fire.

The use of phosphorus as an incendiary weapon as it now appears to have been used against Hamas fighters – as opposed to a smoke screen – is covered by the Convention of Certain Conventional Weapons to which Israel in NOT A SIGNATORY.

When will Hamas confess to anything? Another report, today, from Fatah, says Fatah members are still being killed as we speak. Also the Israeli Hospital at Eretz is empty and the WHO says Hamas is blocking patients from there. Once again, I don't give a shit about Olmert, or livni, if Hamas is brought to justice also.

If using white phosphorus is not not an act of terrorism I don't know what is.

So they are confessing to war crimes!?

Murder of a population under cover of righteousness

By Shulamit Aloni

We do not have gas chambers and crematoria, but there is no one fixed method for genocide.

Dr. Ya’akov Lazovik writes (“Academic Genocide”, “Ha’Aretz”, 4 March) that in the State of Israel it is impossible that the regime and the nation will plan and commit a genocide. It is difficult to determine if this is naïveté or self-righteousness. As we know, there is no single fixed method for murder and not even for genocide. The author I. L. Peretz wrote about “the righteous cat” who does not spill blood, but only suffocates her prey.

The government of Israel, using the military and its instruments of destruction, is not only spilling blood, but it is also suffocating. What other name can be given to the dropping of a one-tonne bomb over a dense urban area, when the justification uttered is that we wanted to murder a dangerous terrorist and his wife? The rest of the citizens who were killed and injured, among whom are children and women, do not count, of course.

How is it possible to explain the expulsion of citizens from their homes at three o’clock in the morning on a rainy night, then depositing bombs in the house and then departing without warning? When those expelled returned to their home, the bombs were exploded and a brutal murder and destruction of property was thus committed. And what is the justification for what happened in Jenin? We did not destroy the whole neighbourhood, just 85 houses; it was not slaughter, we killed only 50-some citizens. How many does one need to murder and destroy in one swoop for it to be a crime? – A crime against humanity, as determined by the Laws of the State of Israel, not only the laws of Belgium.

And more: A curfew and closure of an entire city so that a few celebrants from the racist bunch of settlers in Hebron could walk to the Cave of the Patriarchs, and tanks destroying fruit and vegetable stands, and bulldozers that destroy houses, and Generals who, in their arrogant hubris, are willing to destroy a whole neighbourhood and ancient houses for the convenience of a group of settler hooligans. Curfew, closure, brutality, murder, destruction of homes of suspects, while we keep parroting the incantation that a person is innocent until proven

The list of goods you just said, if that going to israel? Or going to Jewish people? There is a difference.
Because I can't see McDonalds having a high influence in Israel.

Where is the quote in the article above of Israel's "admission"?

Easy stomach, easy does it...
http://current.com/items/89733753/depleted_uranium_found_in_gaza_victims.htm

"What experience and history teach is this -- that people and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it.": Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

Update on the war crimes thing:

"It also follows the decision by the IDF to protect the names of battalion and brigade commanders who participated in Operation Cast Lead.

According to Israel Army Radio on Wednesday the decision – ordered by defence minister Ehud Barak – was made in anticipation that war crimes charges may be filed against IDF officers, who could face prosecution when they travel overseas."

Seems they are starting to realise they may well be in deep trouble.