Alaska sues federal government over beluga whales
source: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/01/alaska-sues-fed.html
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From a statement posted on Gov. Sarah Palin's website:
"The State of Alaska has worked cooperatively with the federal government to protect and conserve beluga whales in Cook Inlet," said Palin. "This listing decision didn't take those efforts into account as required by law....
"While challenging the listing, we will continue to protect beluga whales," said Palin. "We will also be assisting Alaskan communities and stakeholders with navigating the complex bureaucratic process this listing decision imposes on their projects and working cooperatively with federal agencies on the required consultations, designations of critical habitat and development of a recovery plan and objectives."
But many environmental activists voiced their opposition to Alaska's challenge. Prime among them was Brendan Cummings of the Center for Biological Diversity, who said, "Gov. Palin seems more than willing to sacrifice endangered whales on the altar of oil company profits." The Anchorage Daily News reports on other notable dissenters:
"It seems the Palin administration only likes one kind of science -- the kind it agrees with," said Craig Matkin, an Alaska marine mammal specialist with the North Gulf Oceanic Society. "Every objective expert who's looked at this small and isolated (beluga) population agrees it should be listed."
Audubon Alaska scientist John Schoen noted that the protective status for local belugas was strongly endorsed by the U.S. Marine Mammal Commission empaneled by Congress.
In 1979, University of Alaska biologists estimated that about 1,300 belugas lived in the Cook Inlet. Fewer than 400 remain today.
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bamboozled
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If Palin (and the other money-idolators) get their way, the only animals that will be left will be humans and cockroaches. And McDonald's will be using filler in the cockroach burgers to increase their profits.
Boy, can't wait. We're gonna be rich!
- 3 years ago
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bamboozled
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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She will save em now and hunt em later. She loves animals....with potatoes and gravy!
- 3 years ago
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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JasonCovich
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I get the feeling that some people won't be happy until the entire planet is one big shopping mall. The third mall from the sun. Palin and her ilk will be fingerbanging themselves into a frenzy when they open the first Starbucks on the moon.
- 3 years ago
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JasonCovich
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bluestranger
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Dang, the Palinator lost and now she's gonna take it out on the poor belugas. At least she doesn't have control of all fifty states. That girl is scarier than Cheney in some ways.
- 3 years ago
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bluestranger
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Ricky84
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Damn some of you people are either shortsighted or partisan douche bags. Bitch all you want about Alaska but President Obama nominated Ken Salazar as the Secretary of the interior and he threatened to sue the US Fish and Wildlife service if it listed black tail prairie dogs as endangered.
- 3 years ago
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Ricky84
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JasonCovich
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Ricky84:
Threatening to sue is one thing. But actually doing it so a billion dollar company can make even more money? You are the partisan douchebag. Dragging anything you can think of, however loosely tied to Obama and you still can't make the point. Sad
- 3 years ago
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JasonCovich
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numinant
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Ricky84:
i think people would be happy to bitch about that too should a story on the subject be posted. sure people are taking potshots at palin because they still have a bad taste in their mouths from the campaign, but that shouldn't detract from the issue, which should be nonpartisan.
- 3 years ago
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numinant
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Ricky84
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Ricky84:
“Threatening to sue is one thing.”
Yeah threatening to sue is “one thing.” Then again it becomes an unnecessary “thing” when you pressure the US Fish and Wildlife service to remove black tail prairie dogs from the candidate list and also help convince the US forestry service to poison over 10,000 acres of prairie dog habitat the very day following the decision made by the US fish and Wildlife service.
“But actually doing it so a billion dollar company can make even more money?”
So somehow poisoning federal lands to prevent the spread of an animal onto privately owned ranches is somehow any different?
“You are the partisan douchebag. Dragging anything you can think of, however loosely tied to Obama and you still can't make the point. Sad”
The only thing being dragged around here is your ridiculous argument thanks in part to yourself and those stylish partisan blinders of yours.
Last point; when the hell did verbal nomination constitute a loose tie and therefore what then constitutes a strong tie? Let me guess so long as Obama did not physically chuck Salazar into the Department of the Interior’s headquarters then he’s someone absolved of any blame?
- 3 years ago
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Ricky84
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JasonCovich
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Ricky84:
Just keep hating and hating. It's why you lost by 9 million votes. Hate and Fear and Money is all your party has to run on and the rest of us are fucking tired of your shit.
- 3 years ago
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JasonCovich
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Ricky84
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Ricky84:
Ok it’s recap time.
I bemoan the shortsightedness of partisan banter given the issue at hand.
Then you call me a republican douche.
Wow LAMO ROFL and all that other stuff.
You stay classy now Jason.
PS. I’m not a republican.
- 3 years ago
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Ricky84
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Vierotchka
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When Life, after a few billion years of existence, decided to commit suicide, it created humans.
tome_erau, by killing off thousands of animal species, humans have totally upset the natural balance - this will soon come back to lethally bite it in the arse.
- 3 years ago
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Vierotchka
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tome_erau
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Can anyone please explain to me exactly why we need the the "Cook Inlet beluga whale." I mean I dislike Sarah Palin as much as the next person, but i really don't see why we need to protect every species in the world from disappearing. It's not really going to affect us and I'm sure the other beluga whales aren't outraged at the fact that there distant cousins in Cook Inlet might not make it.
- 3 years ago
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tome_erau
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JasonCovich
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tome_erau:
Uhhhhhhhhh, maybe you are not as impressed with living things as the rest of us. They can die out on their own and I can't feel one way or the other. When big oil companies and private interest want to eliminate species, then I have a problem. No one is talking about saving EVERY species. We are talking about not letting people exterminate a species that might keep them from lining their pockets. A little cold and evil don't you think?
- 3 years ago
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JasonCovich
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tome_erau
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tome_erau:
Making them an endangered species isn't actually going to stop the oil companies from drilling there. They have the money and legal resources to get through the paperwork and show how there drills won't actually hurt the sacred whale. The only people who will really be hurt by this are the smaller businesses in the region who dont have those resources. I really really hate to admit it... but Sarah Palin is right.
- 3 years ago
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tome_erau
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nkeg87
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tome_erau:
Little do you know about how it could affect us. There is a delicate balance. This whale might eat a particular, I dont know, shrimp. The whale eating this shrimp keeps the population in check and prevents them from out-competing with another species of shrimp. This other species of shrimp is the main diet of another whale. So the cook inlet whale becomes extinct. Shrimp#1 takes over the inlet and this prevents shrimp#2 from thriving. Other species of whale has no food. Do you see how not protecting this whale destroyed 2 other species? Stuff like this happens all the time so it's not far fetched.
There is a reason people fight really hard to protect every last species on the planet. Because to some extent, we do need every last species on the planet. We might not know how we need them, but finding out later that not protecting the cook inlet beluga has dissipated other species found in the inlet might be a heavy environmental price to pay. But people want their oil, so screw the whales and the environment, right?
- 3 years ago
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nkeg87
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bluestranger
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tome_erau:
What nkeg87 said.
- 3 years ago
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bluestranger
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Bisbonian
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tome_erau:
Right after you explain to us why we need tome_erau.
- 3 years ago
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Bisbonian
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bamboozled
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tome_erau:
The simple answer to your question is this: Money is not more important than life.
Your question is not only tragically cynical, it's also very self-centered, as if small-business owners (or even massive corporations) going under is somehow significantly more important than an entire species going extinct.
In terms Sarah Palin and other "Christians" should understand, none of God's creatures is more important than another. Certainly, this is the moral of the story of Noah.
In human terms, when species go extinct, they tend to throw nature out of balance (the food chain, the weather), and that ultimately affects humans. For example, many of the cures for diseases have been found in rainforest plants. Does it harm humans to make one species of some obscure rainforest flower extinct? Yes.
In political terms, if the U.S. doesn't set an example for saving species of animals from extinction, what's stopping any other (less progressive) country from not making orangutans or dolphins or any other species redundant?
In selfish terms, I want my child to grow up in a world where they can see animals other than the ones we "grow" for consumption.
Is that enough reasons?
- 3 years ago
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bamboozled
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tome_erau
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tome_erau:
I'm not saying I think the oil companies should be aloud to be there, I'm just saying that this law is just another hurdle to them and they are going to drill there anyway. This isn't about orangutans or obscure flowers, nor is it about deglecting the environment for money. It's about an inefficient law that will really do nothing but hurt the local economy of the area. And I'm sorry if it seems like i care more about people then animals, but I do.
- 3 years ago
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tome_erau
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nkeg87
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tome_erau:
So you dont think the companies should be allowed in the inlet but you also dont like the idea that this could hurt the economy there?
Sometimes, you can have your cake and eat it too. Why dont they protect the whales and use it as an opporunity to attract tourist to see these rare, endangered whales in the only place they exist? There are other ways to help the economy without destroying the environment.
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nkeg87
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bamboozled
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tome_erau:
By your own admission, it's about destroying a species of animal to help boost your local economy.
Isn't that a bit short-sighted? I mean, you do realise that oil will be worthless (if it's even still being used) in 50 years? Do you realise how many villages, even major cities, have disappeared over just the past thousand years of human existence because what they were hawking or mining became useless?
It's pathetic. It's akin to saying let's make the elephants extinct so we can use their tusks to make money selling pianos. We don't have to, and it won't last long, anyway. We're the smartest animal out there. Think.
- 3 years ago
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bamboozled
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Vierotchka
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"You betcha we're suing!"
- 3 years ago
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Vierotchka
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bluestranger
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Vierotchka:
V., I love it when you bring that dry sense of humour.
- 3 years ago
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bluestranger
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JasonCovich
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I hope for a day when soul less cash whores no longer decide our policies.
- 3 years ago
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JasonCovich
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omshaantih
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that is a frivolous lawsuit...i cant believe how corrupt those oil companies are
- 3 years ago
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omshaantih
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Britishguy
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omshaantih:
I can, remember Bush is one!
- 3 years ago
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Britishguy
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Britishguy
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Why do Republicans hate this planet so much???
- 3 years ago
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Britishguy
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postlw8j
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It sounds like Alaska is trying to protect their income. Greater restrictions on ports = less profit. This is not unlike the east coast beach communities being opposed to offshore drilling as there is a possibility of diminishing their tourism market.
This why we have individual states--so one central government doesn't make all the decisions without hearing from the people involved. - 3 years ago
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postlw8j
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krush_productions
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It's her hubby with the "Cook Inlet pipeline".
- 3 years ago
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krush_productions
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Gargaryun
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She (Palin) will be fighting for the "right" to shoot them from planes next !!!
- 3 years ago
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Gargaryun
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dwamish
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It's not that she's stupid (although I'm not arguing against that idea) - she just knows on what side her bread is buttered. How much does anyone think the oil and gas industry has donated to her campaigns in the past? It's payback time!
As morally bankrupt as Palin is (not to mention being one of the dimmer bulbs in the box), it's really the system that's at fault here - as long as it takes x-amount of dollars to win public office, we're not looking at a democracy here, we're looking at the Golden Rule - he who has the gold makes the rules - and guess what? Belugas don't make campaign contributions, so they're f'd.
p.s. There's nothing wrong with the state, just the a-holes raping it
- 3 years ago
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dwamish
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Auberella
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What? Seriously, if someone told Sarah Palin that mosquitos were becoming extinct she would say the exact same thing.
- 3 years ago
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Auberella
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conservativelyliberal
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CAN we sell alaska to Russia and throw in a free governer... Cannot believe this!!!
- 3 years ago
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conservativelyliberal
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Dunedigger
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conservativelyliberal:
Hey, I used to live in Alaska -_-
But yea, I'm soo glad Palin didn't make it to the Presidency. I thought Bush was bad, if she made it imagine the world. Geez.
- 3 years ago
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Dunedigger
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Auberella
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conservativelyliberal:
I have one question:
Besides being the governer of Alaska, what has Sarah Palin done? And I mean stuff that is IMPORTANT! - 3 years ago
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Auberella
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iloveravi
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Hmm...this doesn't seem short sighted, evil or stupid at all.
- 3 years ago
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iloveravi
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k8_hj
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Dammit! Can you even imagine if she had gotten sworn in yesterday? She seriously needs to not have any sort of governing power.
- 3 years ago
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k8_hj
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frady
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Great, let's waste more money and time Mrs. Palin. First you want to dump mine wastes into prisitine mountain lakes, now this. You're an idiot. I sincerely hope Republicans are stupid enough to run you for president in 2012.
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frady
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TeejK
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i'm starting to grow weary of this state.. how much can we get from the russians to sell it back to them?
- 3 years ago
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TeejK
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nkeg87
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TeejK:
HHAHAHA. They probably wont take it back = (
- 3 years ago
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nkeg87
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naty_forty
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Personal interests/gain almost always interfere with the correct action to take...
So sad what we've become.
- 3 years ago
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naty_forty
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SamuraiDave
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talk about a frivious lawsuit!
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SamuraiDave
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