Community | January 22, 2009 | 72 comments

TERRORISM AGAINST CHILDREN IN AMERICA BY THE GOVERNMENT

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How would you feel to see a child’s face terrified with fear, with tears flooding their cheeks, arms reaching out for help “MOMMY! MOMMY! DADDY! DADDY!” The child is being pulled away by strangers, the pain and pure agony of fear. The screams so piercing they draw a crowd. It not only breaks your heart but makes one think.

Where is the compassion and where was the law?
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72 comments // TERRORISM AGAINST CHILDREN IN AMERICA BY THE GOVERNMENT

  • chokolat3warmth
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      chokolat3warmth  
    • Although i cant say i believe all social workers and child protective workers do this, as i have a friend in alabama who works in the field and i'm pretty positive shes not into any of the shit written in the article
      -i do think though that there is much corruption not only in the child protective services but in the governments as well.

      Its funny how people think they can and should control others, when even most of you cant control yourselves.

      true power doesnt come from controlling others, it comes from controlling yourself, so stop crying and bitching and go make this change happen, and so will the world change quite quickly

    • 3 years ago
  • chokolat3warmth
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      chokolat3warmth  
    • any one who thinks this is a "conspiracy theory" is a fool

      conspiracy means---
      the act of conspiring together,
      an agreement among conspirators, a group of conspirators,
      the act of two or more persons to commit or plan an evil act

      so Unimatrix and anyone else who argues against this all being true are infact just creating another conspiracy theory, infact me and some friends agreed today that yerba mate is really good, so i guess thats our conspiracy theory.

      anything that questions ur comfortable zone of living, ur "pure ways" of thinking, and or interprating the world in a critical manner is now surveyed as CONSPIRACY, meaning people see it as something they dont want to believe because
      --they just dont know
      --it might be too hard to accept as part of this world
      --they dont care enough because its not on TV, --brushing it off as conspiracy theory just makes it easy to be stamped as not important enough for my brain to process
      --creates a sheeple syndrome, where if most have not accepted this idea it must be a conspiracy theory.

      pretty sad stuff that word play can manipulate people so easily.

    • 3 years ago
  • justadad
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • LMAO... You OBVIOUSLY didn't go to my site.. there you will see a video where a News Station did a 3 year investigation on Child Protective Services, you will SEE the Social Workers speaking up AGAINST the system, admitting the parents are "coerced" and threatened to giving up their children.. you will SEE, that they DO get bonuses, you will SEE that Attorney's who defend their clients GET THEIR CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY.. DON'T BELIEVE ME?
      INVESTIGATE for yourself.. like We all do, when this happens to us, We never believed it either.. That's the purpose of this article.. It IS true, I did the investigations, I spoke to the people, I read the Court Reports, I Read the Cases, I've been to the court house on other Parent's cases. I Contacted the US Department of Justice, I Called and spoke to the Governor's office, I spoke to the FBI, I've spoken so many many people, and I've read many many documents.. YOU DO IT..
      Like I said.. I didn't believe this could, or would happen either.. because we are trained to believe that our government "protects".
      By the way.. I want to clarify a statement someone made earlier about them making millions of dollars off of this.. it's TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS..

    • 3 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • "Children are taken from a home for no reason"? This is false. You may think the reason invalid, but clearly there is a reason for removal.

      Maybe, just maybe, it is better for the children to be removed. Some people are not good parents. Some people neglect or abuse their children. Is that so hard to believe?

      Is there ever a time where the children should be removed? Are children just the property of parents?

      Your position does not add up. Tone down the rhetoric and be honest, maybe someone will take you seriously. Not all social workers are on the take - that is ridiculous fantasy.

    • 3 years ago
  • DanaL
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      DanaL  
    • By the way the e-mails are going I have ruffled a few feathers again. Oh well not my problem if you want to lie to yourselves I have the proof that says different. I have copies of false drug tests done on parents to say they do drugs when they don't. I have the amounts paid to the states every year in bonus money. I have the proof and you have nothing so don't bother trying to convince me that this doesn't exist. Don't waste your time because I have the evidence that proves otherwise. I would suggest you concentrate on someone who doesn't know any better or have the proof that I have. LOL

    • 3 years ago
  • tome_erau
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      tome_erau  
    • Oh my god, this is the most hysterically ridiculous, over-exaggerated crap I've heard in a while.

      I have friends that work for DYFS and they're definetly not a baby stealing factory. Actually, there job is to protect children. But I guess if there's any lesson to be learned its "don't cry wolf to social services, public officials don't like jokes about child abuse"

    • 3 years ago
  • justadad
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      justadad  
    • tome_erau:

      If you are trying to suggest that Human Services in various states are on the up and up; please email be at wdfields@pacifier.com for further off-line discussion and/or sharing of contact information so that i might be able to better understand our or perhaps merely my apparent mis-understanding.

      Believe me, the credibility and veracity of these organizations in in (no, rather below) the gutter.

      When we compromise ethical and dignified public service with knowingly vindictive members of our various communities -- it spills over into essentially all branches of our important and otherwise more honorable pillars of civil governance.

      BTW, have you read Dr. Stephen Baskerville's book? FYI, it is not a fictional.

    • 3 years ago
  • tome_erau
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      tome_erau  
    • tome_erau:

      You are clearly terrified of these organization. And you absolutely should be. There purpose is to deal with bad parents and no one wants to be a bad parent. Its the same way the death penalty keeps people from killing each other. I'm not saying that these places don't make mistakes, but i don't think they're another evil corporation that steals people's children to make a buck.

      If someone feels like the government has wronged them in any way, for example stealing your children, they should contact an attorney who's willing to fight for them and not just wait for the system to work itself out.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • tome_erau:

      LMAO... You OBVIOUSLY didn't go to my site.. there you will see a video where a News Station did a 3 year investigation on Child Protective Services, you will SEE the Social Workers speaking up AGAINST the system, admitting the parents are "coerced" and threatened to giving up their children.. you will SEE, that they DO get bonuses, you will SEE that Attorney's who defend their clients GET THEIR CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY.. DON'T BELIEVE ME?
      INVESTIGATE for yourself.. like We all do, when this happens to us, We never believed it either.. That's the purpose of this article.. It IS true, I did the investigations, I spoke to the people, I read the Court Reports, I Read the Cases, I've been to the court house on other Parent's cases. I Contacted the US Department of Justice, I Called and spoke to the Governor's office, I spoke to the FBI, I've spoken so many many people, and I've read many many documents.. YOU DO IT..
      Like I said.. I didn't believe this could, or would happen either.. because we are trained to believe that our government "protects".
      By the way.. I want to clarify a statement someone made earlier about them making millions of dollars off of this.. it's TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS..

    • 3 years ago
  • tome_erau
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      tome_erau  
    • tome_erau:

      And were exactly are these magical bonus checks coming from because the government may like to waste money, but only when it benefits them. It doesn't make sense that they would just give $1,000,000,000,000.00 to social service workers just for taking people's kids. Thats the size of our national debt. You just sound like a ranting little kid now.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • tome_erau:

      Don't be ignorant than, do the research yourself. Visit my website and see what attorneys are saying.. see what Judges are saying.. see for yourself what is ACTUALLY happening.. look at the statistics.. you would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to think that social workers just care about kids.. oh wait.. look at the video of social workers admitting they lie for funding and bonus'. I have no doubt that these people get into the job for the purpose of helping children, but that's not the actual business of the Department.
      see for yourself, prove me wrong!
      Sandra Ami
      http://amiablyme.wordpress.com

    • 3 years ago
  • unimatrix0
  • DanaL
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      DanaL  
    • unimatrix0:

      I see you would rather be condesending then do the research oh well it is your choice to bury your head in the sand. Some people will always refuse to see the truth even if they are hit in the face with it. They told Martin Luther King he was crazy too because he knew people were out to get him when he was exposing illegal things done by our government.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • unimatrix0:

      If kids come first, then WHY isn't anybody screaming about the children who are being stolen, kidnapped, abducted from their parents? Think about it just for a moment.. You are being "taken" against your will, and for no reason from your family.. then what? Who's the one being protected? Could it be Child Protective Services? All I'm suggesting to you, investigate and prove me WRONG. And.. what if the scenario above is true? Then what is your thought and what should one do?
      Sandra Ami
      www.amiablyme.wordpress.com

    • 3 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • unimatrix0:

      children are taken from a home for no reason? this is false. You may think the reason invalid, but clearly there is a reason for removal.

      Maybe, just maybe, it is better for the children to be removed. Some people are not good parents. Some people neglect or abuse their children. Is that so hard to believe?

      Is there ever a time where the children should be removed? Are children just the property of parents?

      Your position does not add up. Tone down the rhetoric and be honest, maybe someone will take you seriously.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
  • ColdNorthWind
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      ColdNorthWind  
    • I hope Jubal keeps to his promise to himself to become a lawyer !!!!!!!! In all countries -so-called Western countries- the systems are broken. "Good" social workers frequently get- squashed by the system.The topic is interesting- because - I suspect that if the same numbers of adults were being systematically hurt to the point that they can no longer function well as citizens- I suspect THEN the media etc. etc. would headline this constantly. It isn't being investigated for a variety of factors- attitudes,beliefs,children have essentially- no voice-no money -so-no power- Pedophile groups and others closely aligned- don't WANT the systems investigated- the cloak of secrecy protects their nefarious activities.Some lawyers-some judges- also. For example- it was well known where I was-that a certain judge NEVER gave a Protection Order to protect a mother.After he died (suicide) ,I got one- an extended one.Police were always great- where I was- they get to find the bodies - - - -they know what goes on. In fact- they warned me about Child Protective Agencies - - -

    • 3 years ago
  • DanaL
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      DanaL  
    • She is right this is pure terrorism if you think not do the research. I can prove where people who have criminal records are working for DHS the very people who are taking your children. The government doesn't want you to know this and they will do anything to shut me up. I can prove where they doctor drug test to convince people that the parent is on drugs when they are not. I can prove by exposing the illegal activities done by these agencies people are thrown in jail and some are threatened with prison. There is a case ongoing where they are threatening to send a grandmother with a clean record to prison for 3 years. She proved fraud and where children were being kidnapped for money. This money is supplied to them from the Social Security Fund from the Federal Government.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • smizzle1 - Although I agree with you completely. I must tell you, that people, as you know, DO NOT KNOW THEIR RIGHTS, and would find it a task to discover really what they are. Even in knowing them, it doesn't help, as those rights are blatantly violated by the Social Workers.
      ...Second - you can not "answer the specific allegations" because you are not allowed to address the court, enter the court proceedings, or even file an affidavit or declaration.
      ...Third - Parents are threatened into signing the releases. If they do not, the social worker writes up in the report "parent is refusing to cooperate" "Parent is paranoid", "Parent appears to be hiding information that could be beneficial to the child's safely"
      ... Forth - Several Attorneys charge more money than 98% of the people can afford. And they have all stated that they are not allowed to defend their clients in Court.
      ...Fifth - The social worker goes to the child's school to interview them, without your knowledge, you don't find out about it until it's already done.

      Thank you smizzle1 very much!

      Now what?

      (I have some suggestions, that work, I'll write about later)
      Sandra Ami

      www.amiablyme.wordpress.com

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • Actually, Family Court is different from "Dependency Court" Getting an attorney to represent you in "Family Court" is easy.. try getting one to represent you in "Dependency Court.". Dependency Court is a "secret court" that thousands are put into. They are ran by Child Protective Services, and Parents, though accused, are not allowed in. All the discussions are made out of your presents, and you are NOT allowed to face your accuser. They don't call it a Civil Case, because if that was the case, the person bringing the charges upon you must have been someone personally hurt, and CPS is not that person. They can't call it a Criminal Court, because if they did they would have to read you your Miranda Rights, and you would have an opportunity to a jury trial. And in America there is only "two courts" Civil and Criminal. So there is that "secret court" called "Dependency Court".
      Don't believe me? Call a few attorneys and ask them about "Dependency Court". They'll tell you!

    • 3 years ago
  • smizzle1
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      smizzle1  
    • Rule #1: Know your rights!
      Rule#2: Answer/address only the specific allegation
      Rule#3: Don't sign any releases of information-anything negative in the records will be used against you(unless the allegation can only be addressed through a specific record)
      Rule #4: call an attorney (especially if the case is court active)/or play like you consult with one
      Rule #5: Don't let your children be interviewed without you or your attorney present!

      Some words of advice from a former "baby snatcher"
      Many cases are justified, but you'll be suprised what goes on behind the scenes and the policies of CPS agencies. No one can parent that perfectly. Oh ya...if you use physical discipline...don't leave any marks

    • 3 years ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
    • No, I'm not a social worker. But I do keep up with what's going on in my town, state and the nation.

      If what you say is the truth, are you taking steps to correct it? Have you contacted any of the major news people? Have you called John Stossel, or John Walsh? Have you called the producers of 48 Hours? Have you tried to get some of the investigative reporters involved? It sounds like a story some of them might be interested in.... Why not try Fox News? Surely if what you claim is true some news organization will be interested in getting to the bottom of it.

      I'm still of the belief that, while they may screw up once in awhile, social workers are there for good reasons, and it's NOT to raise money for the state.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • 2helenahandbasket:

      Yes, we have all done all of that, and I personally have as well. NO MEDIA will touch it. They have all been threatened if they do, with their own children, or their families children. (again, I have that video on my website www.amiablyme.wordpress.com)
      Again, call attorneys in your area, and ask them about "Dependency Court hearings" ask the information. You can approach it this way: "I have heard something, I find hard to believe, can you tell me about ..." Get the opinions of those who know, if you want to trust someone other than the millions of parents crying and losing their children, sometimes to death.
      Look up on YouTube, type in CPS, you will see some (some) of what I am talking about. If I could get a Major News to cover this.. LOL IT WOULD BE nothing short of A MIRACLE!

    • 3 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  
    • The legislation that gives these institutions money for stealing babies and children is for some reason more powerful than the constitution itself. This legislation is SS Title IV, it causes incentives of up to $4,000 for single adoptions. Add up the amount they recieve for children being in foster care and youll see it is a multi-million dollar enterprise... Legalized Child Kidnapping, Racketeering, a National Child Trade. All funded every time they take SS taxes out of your paycheck.

      Do YOU want to do something about this?? let me know

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • regjoeschmo:

      OH THANK YOU!!! And most people don't know that even when a child IS adopted, the government pays for all that child's needs, health care, clothing, housing, education etc. until that child is sometimes 23 years old. All paid to the adoptive parent(s) each month. So, is it adopting children for compassion? Or is it a business?

    • 3 years ago
  • justadad
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • Your children can be removed with mere accusations, they don't need a conviction at all. Unamatrix0 you should look into this. It sounds unreal, but I have seen this falsification of reports first hand. I have seen the system marginalize parents so they have the legal excuse to remove the children and terminate parental rights. They also use coercion to get parents to agree to sign documents and agree to their terms. The system is need of a huge overhaul and reform.

      I am planning on going to law school and become an activist on this issue in my state to see that reforms are made.

      Judges at the Family Court, the Social Workers, and the so called Family Court Public Defenders are all in cahoots with each other. You cannot get a lawyer to represent you in Eugene, Oregon in Family court unless they are on the approved list of Public Defenders. I mentioned earlier about the standard of evidence being preponderance.

      That means an expert's testimony carries more weight than the facts.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • jubal:

      Actually, Family Court is different from "Dependency Court" Getting an attorney to represent you in "Family Court" is easy.. try getting one to represent you in "Dependency Court.". Dependency Court is a "secret court" that thousands are put into. They are ran by Child Protective Services, and Parents, though accused, are not allowed in. All the discussions are made out of your presents, and you are NOT allowed to face your accuser. They don't call it a Civil Case, because if that was the case, the person bringing the charges upon you must have been someone personally hurt, and CPS is not that person. They can't call it a Criminal Court, because if they did they would have to read you your Miranda Rights, and you would have an opportunity to a jury trial. And in America there is only "two courts" Civil and Criminal. So there is that "secret court" called "Dependency Court".
      Don't believe me? Call a few attorneys and ask them about "Dependency Court". They'll tell you!

    • 3 years ago
  • DanaL
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      DanaL  
    • jubal:

      I do only the base rate per child is no longer 4,000 per child it is now 8,000 as of Oct. 1, 2008. Also it goes up if they can make that child fit more then one criteria. That is why also some of these children are put on psycotropic drugs so they will also qualify as a special needs child.

    • 3 years ago
  • ColdNorthWind
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      ColdNorthWind  
    • I am unable to address the question of adoption-and am not qualified to speak to the issue of money,HOWEVER- the "blunders" made by social services systems are many,frequent and often- secret-.All these -"errors"are committed and kept secret because of a variety of factors.
      Even ONE child traumatized for no reason other than- malice,stupidity- etc.- ,is too many.I absolutely believe this account. My own children were removed by a police officer and a social worker- and sent to live with a child rapist. Removed from a truly excellent home. I know of so many others -where the mother and children have just been- destroyed. Wiped out.
      The attitudes of disbelief- while completely understandable (it sounds- unbelievable- would have been to me- before-) nonetheless- do not help children or any society/country. I would hope that those who express disbelief- would- do some research-.I write from another country- but these egregious errors are happening in every Western society- including (for example) France.It is easy to comment on - say- the Holocaust- when one has not lived through it. When one has experienced this kind of -domestic terrorism- disbelief is unutterably vicious.
      Most are silenced in the face of -such determined attitudes. Those who are not- are amazingly brave.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • ColdNorthWind:

      Thank you coldnorthwind.. you said that very well! We need more people to speak out on these stories, so that those who are in disbelief, as we once were, can hear the truth. I wish they would all look up and research for themselves, however they wont... until it happens to them.
      Just as I've said before.. if you take a man with infinate wisdom and put him side by side with someone that may have.. oh .. i don't know.. Downs Syndrome.. who's the happier man? Everyone is just better off happy. I was too before I knew.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • I wish I could say you are correct, only you are not. The News Broadcast on my website will show you that Social Workers do in fact get bonus', it will show you what really happens. And no, though Social workers get into the field for all the right reasons, they must "comply" with the demands of their Supervisors or leave their jobs. I have a 2 audio tapes of Social Workers who directly made statements and acted with malice. I'll tell you what, get yourself into the "system" then you will be able to make an educated and factual statement. There are plenty of sites one can research to find the truth about all of this.
      What you base your opinion on, unimatrix, I'd like to know.
      I base mine on facts, research and investigations.
      Grudge? No, It's called Injustice. It's called the Government is allowed to break the law. Don't believe me? find out for yourself.
      www.amiablyme.wordpress.com

    • 3 years ago
  • unimatrix0
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • Amiablyme:

      I apologize if to you it may sound crazy, I can assure you it is crazy. It sounds crazy to all the parents who investigate "why" their children are being taken away with false claims. As I said, for more information see my website, and look at the actual published numbers by your own county, your own state, or even from the Federal Government. I've seen them all, they are public, so you can see them too. It only takes one to look to find the answers.
      Thanks again!
      Sandra Ami

    • 3 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • Social Workers are by and large good people. The foster care system is not perfect. Nevertheless, the claims being made here are simply ludicrous.

      Obviously ami has a grudge. There is no objectivity here. One quote from the blog:

      "The Social Workers are not interested if there was any actual abuse or neglect, they get a bonus to place children up for adoption."

      This is false. Social workers do not become social workers because of the money, they do it because they care. No bonus is paid for removal of children or placing them up for adoption.

      This is paranoid, conspiracy theory, non-sense.

    • 3 years ago
  • justadad
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      justadad  
    • unimatrix0:

      How many openly vindictive do we find in HHS and CPS?

      Any obligations to a Constitution or Dignity of children of our Almighty?

      Any notions for illegal trespass of "liberty"?

      Any notions of "due process?"

      I would submit, based on my perspective from "the street," very little.

      Although, I may be "wrong."

      Acknowledgment, as with many an addict, our most important yet difficult step.

    • 3 years ago
  • DanaL
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      DanaL  
    • unimatrix0:

      You are so wrong in your thinking they do get bonuses and I have the documents to prove it. I can show you how much they get for each child. Also how they manipulate the system to up the intial value of the child. It is a pamphlet that social workers go by to show which children to take etc.

    • 3 years ago
  • justadad
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      justadad  
    • unimatrix0:

      Dear DanaL,

      You are so admirable and (in my opinion) likely correct.

      It's as though we are witness to nothing more than a precarious perilous Pinocchio principle -- i.e., the more lies, the more power and money.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • If you go to my website www.amiablyme.wordpress.com you will find that CHILDREN ARE GETTING KILLED in the hands of CFS / CPS / DCFS! This is NO JOKE. Children are 10 times more likely to DIE in the care of CPS then they are at home. Children are being put into the system that are NOT abused and are NOT neglected!!! That's the whole problem. The system is being abused for money. Children are being abused for money! Parents are being terrorized, children are being terrorized.. this is NO JOKE PEOPLE.. IT'S REAL!!!
      The system was put up for a reason.. to make money. Children are being raped, murdered, abused and neglected.. these aren't just "degenerate children" these are YOUR CHILDREN.. good kids that get good grades, who place baseball, piano are in the Boy Scouts.. Every day normal, loving parents such as yourself are being falsely accused, just so that the government can make more money off of you.
      This is the worst epidemic, the worst disease, amongs the worst acts of Terrorism there is! CHILDREN ARE THE TARGET!

    • 3 years ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
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      2helenahandbasket  
    • All those agencies are there for a reason---- to determine if some form child abuse has occurred. It must be hard to determine who are actually abusing their child and who are being set up. The job of determining this is sort of a damed-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't.

      If someone called CFS and reported abuse and CFS didn't follow up on the call and the child ended up hurt, or even killed, we would all be horrified by that, too, and want to know where CFS was and why they didn't do their jobs.

      While reading the article I deemed the story so far beyond belief that I found myself questioning it. I completely reject the claim that 3000 children a month are taken from their homes by CFS in one county alone, and for money. Where is this county? In what state? (In my state CFS will do everything possible to keep families together, even sometimes when I believe it to be in the best interest of the child to be taken away from the parents.) If there were 3000 children a month taken away in my whole state, let alone one county, it would be all over the news. And I also reject the claim that a child is 7 to 10 times more likely to die in foster care than with abusive parents. In my state whenever a child is killed it is almost always by a family member.

      I have some serious doubts about the truth of this entire article, and wonder... if the things in this article actually happened to this family, maybe there was good reason. Sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • 2helenahandbasket:

      If you go to my website www.amiablyme.wordpress.com you will find that CHILDREN ARE GETTING KILLED in the hands of CFS / CPS / DCFS! This is NO JOKE. Children are 10 times more likely to DIE in the care of CPS then they are at home. Children are being put into the system that are NOT abused and are NOT neglected!!! That's the whole problem. The system is being abused for money. Children are being abused for money! Parents are being terrorized, children are being terrorized.. this is NO JOKE PEOPLE.. IT'S REAL!!!
      The system was put up for a reason.. to make money. Children are being raped, murdered, abused and neglected.. these aren't just "degenerate children" these are YOUR CHILDREN.. good kids that get good grades, who place baseball, piano are in the Boy Scouts.. Every day normal, loving parents such as yourself are being falsely accused, just so that the government can make more money off of you.
      This is the worst epidemic, the worst disease, amongs the worst acts of Terrorism there is! CHILDREN ARE THE TARGET!
      oh and for a more verified fact on the children, here's the website http://ssa.ocgov.com/Home_Content/Learn_About_CFS.asp
      That is an old statistic, however if you look up the minute orders, you will see meetings with the head of the Public Defenders office Frank Ospino, the Director of Social Services Michael Riley, along with Judges, Mental Health, Head of the Children's homes, and others, where they discuss how many children are taken. The number in the site above states 2700 children per month are taken, however the actual number to date is much higher. You can doubt it, but if you don't do the research yourself, your doubts are only strong statements of ignorance. It's all good, though for a discussion, so I thank you. As they say, even bad publicity is good publicity, at least it gets people to take notice there is a problem.
      Sandra Ami
      www.amiablyme.wordpress.com

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • 2helenahandbasket:

      Let me tell you what the "good reason" is. First of all, I am this family. I have gotten the CPS worker fired, and her supervisor. I have them all under an Internal Affairs investigation. I got the Public Defender off the case, and he was put on "Administrative Leave of Absence". I have had the the Chairman of the Board of Supervisor's office conduct a meeting on my behalf, If you'd like to verify this informaiton, you are more than welcomed. This is NO JOKE.. this is what REALLY HAPPENS.. I am NOT a drug addict, I am not a drinker, I've never been arrested, I do not abuse, nor neglect my children, nor have I ever. I belonged to the PTA, and promoted my children's musical talents through producing Talent shows. You are so right, you don't know me, however, don't think for one second, you know the Social Workers.
      Did you know Social Worker's do NOT need a license to Take Children from homes? And they do not have to consult anyone about taking that child away. You may THINK you know all the facts, but trust me you don't, you can't and you wont unless you walk in the shoes to those terrorized by this "system".
      Don't speak against those you don't know, until you do the homework yourself. Until you walk in the shoes of reality.
      Or, perhaps you are one of the Social Workers.
      There is proof all over the place, the only reason I'm writing this article, and giving a voice, is because people like you DON'T KNOW, and DON'T BELIEVE IT. It's never going to change, and your life is in jeopardy too, until you learn.
      Just like your Rights, you have NONE until you CLAIM them in court!

      Sandra
      www.amiablyme.wordpress.com
      for the truth!

    • 3 years ago
  • DanaL
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      DanaL  
    • 2helenahandbasket:

      I see you need to do more research she is telling the truth and I have documents to prove it happens in all 50 states. I am not saying you have to believe me just check it out for yourself. If after doing a true investigation and want to still believe it doesn't just because you can't handle the truth then that is on you.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
  • Amiablyme
  • justadad
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      justadad  
    • SHAWN_RITTIMAN:

      In/of/from a land,
      Where MAFIA activities appear legalized,
      Parenthood criminalized,
      For money idolized.

      Indeed, it still pays,
      To hate,
      Discriminate,
      And invigorate,
      Ill-will.

      Heaven help us!

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • I can testify to seeing this scenario played out several times here in Oregon where I live. This has happened to people I know. Reports are exaggerated and sometimes things are outright fabrications.

      And be careful when they send you to a Psychiatrist for an evaluation. The Psychiatrist and the Public Defender are on the payroll of the Family Court and Social services system and their job is to create an airtight case on paper. They will distort the facts to suit their purposes.

      If you don't believe that his happens, just go to a family court and sit and watch the proceedings. Watch the mothers and fathers leaving there completely destroyed emotionally because their parental rights have been terminated.

      In many instances, Child Protective Services are terrorists and the American People are the victims. The perpetrators can be people who have a bone to pick with you and their accusations can be completely fabricated.

      The standard for evidence is not like regular courts. Innocent until proven guilty and beyond a reasonable doubt is the American justice system mantra, but in Family court, it is guilty until proven innocent and preponderance of the evidence. If there is a chance that you might be guilty, the system must err on the side of caution and make decisions based on the assumption that you are guilty.

      This is something that needs to be reformed and big time. There is so much corruption involved in this racket. Oregon is one of those states that has a high number of placements in Foster care, but not a high number of in State adoptions. That is because of the screening process for prospective new parents. Rarely does a single person get full consideration for adoption because most of the CPS workers are religious zealots who interject their religious beliefs and judgments into their reports and decisions. You are viewed by them as an undesirable parent because of your status, your perceived lifestyle.

    • 3 years ago
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
  • trut
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      trut  
    • Must suck to live in the "Land of the Free" I have not heard any of these type of stories in small town B.C.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
  • justadad
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      justadad  
    • trut:

      Political Socialist Infiltrators . . . PSI . . . Policy Studies Inc

      There, i said it, socialism.

      My, i feel more enlightened and compassionate already.

      Yet, in the last CLE I attended for purposes of learning the "ropes" of "Mandatory Child Abuse Reporting," the program indicated about a two fold increase in such Abuse.

      yet, if my memory serves me correctly, we have more compassionate and protective loving "mores" over the needs of "our" children.

      Welcome to 1917 (?1918?) all over again -- see, e.g., speech of Stalin in Nov 1917 before an all Women gathering where he was espousing the virtues of the Soviet republic and all it had done to remove "filth." Hint, in the book "Women and Communism: a collection of short writings of Engels, Stalin, Marx and Lenin," Lawrence & Wishart, London, 1950.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • Parents could report another parent, for good or bad, doesn't matter, the child will be in jeopardy of going into Foster care. Social Services is not trying to fight to put all Custody battles before Social Services so they can take control of the children away from the parents.. PEOPLE>> OPEN YOUR EYES,, this IS real!
      Go to my website www.amiablyme.wordpress.com and watch the videos.. even if you don't read the articles.. watch the NEWS CASTS alone..

    • 3 years ago
  • mutedmajority
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • mutedmajority:

      mutedmajority, yes and that system is growing and growning. The USA has more people behind bars than the majority of countries in the world. They parasitic privatized prisons make fortunes on their slave labor, and Halliburton and Cheney are making money off this tryany.
      Many do not know about this system of money making by the corrupt private prisons.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • mutedmajority:

      And it is said that OVER 80% of the people in jails are former FOSTER CHILDREN! They are 'created' to be placed back into the "system" so the government will continue to receive funding for them.. Your Taxes people.. this is what you are paying the DHHS for. Happy? It is simply made to happen to the innocent. YOU!

    • 3 years ago
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • This is a difficult subject. I lived in a fairly large city where several neighbors reported that a child was being abused, and the social services did absolutely nothing.
      The boyfriend, a karate expert, literally killed the child with a karate kick.
      If social services is too diligent, it may be because it the past they let children die because they did nothing.

      Still this is difficult. Parents need to realize that if they report the spouse for a reason that is not really good, they could lose their child. There must be some middle ground here, and rights on both sides must be respected.

    • 3 years ago
  • walski
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      walski  
    • What a ridiculously biased article! As a good writer they should research terrorism before using it in a title. In fact, it sounds like the author has a vendetta.

      I used to volunteer as a big bro for a few foster homes in FL and I unfortunately have family raising kids in a rough place in Ga., where Social Services have been called a few times, over a few years. NO KIDS TAKEN.

      No bonuses are given out to workers in FL or Ga, according to the social workers I am friends with. They treat the situation delicately and I have witnessed firsthand how an abusive parent will lie and paint a pretty picture even under oath, like the article.

      Kids will almost always defend their parents. I have listened to a child bash their foster parents and defend their own parents, that raped them. It is sad that many children think their parental figures show love by fondling them. The reality is many children go their life not knowing any better and end up doing it to their children.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • walski:

      WOW are YOU Deluted Walski.. AS A MATTER OF FACT.. My statistics are correct.. and IF you go to my website.. I have oodles and OODLES of PROOF. By the way.. Nancy Schaefer is in Georgia. the Senator? You must know her.. the woman who has all over her website the corruption and misconduct of Social Workers?? You are just the kind of person who is perpetuating the problem.. The parents are not the liars.. and I'd be more than happy to show anyone interested the proof.. Just from my own personal records. Show me a Social Worker.. and I'll show YOU A LIAR!!! I'd love to engage in a conversation of TRUTH about this one! My Phone is always open!

    • 3 years ago
  • walski
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      walski  
    • walski:

      Ami, you are ignorant

      "Deluted" is what you call me? Wow you have really got to GET A DICTIONARY. If you mean 'diluted' that would be watering down an article, perhaps giving a different view, another side, being a good writer.

      If you mean 'delusional,' no, I spent four years volunteering my time to mentor children in foster homes, have you, do you? You may have "oodles" of proof of something but to attack all social workers just further proves your ignorance. But I like the way you plug your website to bring people in, nice ploy.

      Instead of having your phone always available to me, use that time to make yourself available to less fortunate children. Basically put your finger on the pulse. BTW I am not the problem, parents abusing their children are the problem. If not for them, social workers would be out of work.

      You can give me all the statistics you want but when I see an abused child become a responsible adult that doesn't live in fear and doesn't 'perpetuate' the cycle on their children, I say, "SUCCESS!" BTW that's my firsthand experience.

      You tactics are the real problem, the state will waste allocated tax dollars combating people like you in public, money that was suppose to go to providing for foster children. Churches and other organizations will fail to donate b/c of your public venting and the children will pay for it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
    • 0
      Amiablyme  
    • walski:

      No, I did mean "diluted", you have been "watered down" from the truth. I'm sure your intentions are good, however, you have no idea what the truth is. You are exactly the result of how well the Marketing has worked so well. As for proof, let me tell you, I do have proof.

      You can just take a look at the Welfare and Institutional Codes for yourself. In there it states and I quote "to preserve and strengthen the minor's family ties whenever possible". So if this is part of what Social Services is suppose to do, then why are so many children being placed with strangers? Where is the extended family? They are NOT looked into. It is difficult to comprehend that the millions of children taken by Social Services each year do not have families worthy of caring for them. That would be to say, families are all incompetent. I understand there are some, and the percentage I was given by even a governmental official, is 20% of the actual children taken are justified. The reports are written up to create lies, and the parents are threatened, coerced and forced into this system of injustice.

      I'd be happy to prove it to you. In any case, keep an opened mind, do the research I have done, speak to the people I have spoken to, and find out for yourself, if you really cared about the truth and the children.
      Again.. My number is published, by all means, you can call me and I'll be happy to show you that all you know, is not all the truth.

      Thank you for reading my website, watch the videos yourself. Thank you for the discussion, it can only promote education, and for that, I am grateful!
      Sandra
      www.amiablyme.wordpress.com

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • walski:

      HERE HERE! Thank you! That's just ONE voice speaking out for millions. The law is very specific, and yet Social Services breaks then with EVERY case they take in. Opinion? Maybe, based on the facts I've seen. Look and see how much money they take in each MONTH. In one year, Orange County California takes in approximately 170 BILLION dollars per year, STRICTLY in the abduction of children from their families. Oh but yes, some don't like statistics, and I must agree, they are not accurate. However, If you consider the facts that Social Services agrees they take in thousands of children in many many counties, then find out where the numbers in dollars come from and where they go, and how much. If you watch the videos out there and on my website www.amiablyme.wordpress.com , you will start to get a small bit of the picture as to the truth about what is really going on behind your back.

      OH and better yet if you don't believe me, but have the sense to look it up for yourself. Prove me wrong. Please, I would love nothing more than to know I am wrong on all of this.
      Sandra Ami

    • 3 years ago
  • lovelander
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      lovelander  
    • walski:

      I agree Amiablyme and Slarabee - social workers/child protective services should be done away with. As a country we SHOULD let abused children remain with their abusers?

      wink

    • 3 years ago
  • Amiablyme
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      Amiablyme  
    • walski:

      No, I think you have me wrong. I don't think that TRUE abusers should be allowed to abuse children. But I do not believe that the children should be automatically put into foster care or up for adoption because of it. They refuse to give the children to the 'other parent' or even the extended families. The law states the children should stay with the families whenever possible. It's like I said, for 20% of the children it's justified. It's the other 80% of cases that are not.

    • 3 years ago
  • trut
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      trut  
    • I dont think the example of Mormons marrying 12 year old girls to 50 year old men is the right place to start the battle.

    • 3 years ago
  • petarro
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      petarro  
    • I would be really, really pissed. This is quite scary, I hope this is brought to light strongly so it can be addressed. Michelle Obama, where are you?

    • 3 years ago
  • Ihatethemall
  • pjacobs51
  • dabne
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      dabne  
    • It just happened in Texas. The Government abducted a great number of Children from their Mothers...

      The Children wept, the Mothers wept and most of America encouraged it.

      Luckily for them the courts made the government return them.

      Scary times we live in.

    • 3 years ago
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  • regjoeschmo
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