Obama orders Guantanamo closure
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The order fulfils a long-standing pledge of Mr Obama.
At Mr Obama's request, military judges have already suspended several of the trials of terror suspects at the Guantanamo detention centre.
He has also ordered a review of the military trials and a ban of harsh interrogation techniques that many consider to amount to torture.
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jyotti
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In spite of our failings, we here in the United States are blessed to be here, and with those blessings, comes the burden of restoration of our moral authority. This isn't done with floating 9 or 10 carriers around, or dumping food out of a C-130. From the very outset, faulted "intelligence", obtained through torture, was touted as a viable justification to go hunt down those weapons of mass destruction, as it were.
You want some intel? Remove their wisdom teeth .. while they're on a sodium pentathol drip .. geesh
Switzerland has offered to take in those Gitmo prisoners, that we have no further interest in, and for one reason or another, cannot return to their country of origin. As for the others .. they should be tried or released, as would any other person, being incarcerated under the color of authority by any entity that is under our Flag.
Obama gave himself a year, but as anyone who's been in the US military will tell you .. things can move a heck of alot faster, when the word comes down. Why not normalize relations with Cuba while we're at it .. we've got four months of new car inventory that's begging for new markets.
God knows, there has been an uprecedented erosion of our "moral authority" over the past eight years. But, I gotta tellya .. it didn't just start with Bush. Under Truman's watch, the promise made to Ho Chi Min was broken, and me and a few million other souls went to Viet Nam.
Closing Gitmo is a helluva good start. Mabe even consider putting up the Flag this coming Forth. It's been awhile ...
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Finally! This has been like 40 days and nights in the wilderness! Eight years without power, and now the lights are back on! Whow! - 3 years ago
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In December 2002, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld approved interrogation methods that included the use of dogs, hooding, stress positions, isolation for up to 30 days, 20-hour interrogations, deprivation of light and sound, and water boarding. U.S. Navy General Counsel Alberto Mora told William Haynes, the Pentagon’s general counsel, that Rumsfeld’s “authorized interrogation techniques could rise to the level of torture.” As a result, Rumsfeld rescinded some methods but reserved the right to approve others, including water boarding, on a case-by-case basis.
When Bush maintained earlier this week that his government doesn’t torture prisoners, he stressed the need for interrogation to “protect the American people.”
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ClareW
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This is fantastic, I'm so so pleased. The US' record of human rights was one of the main things I wanted to see Obama turn around and this is a huge step to showing that he means what he says.
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ClareW
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richjm
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How fantastic to see Obama sticking to the honour and ethics that got him elected. Even Castro is impressed with Obama's "noble intentions," writing in a column:
"I had not the least doubt of the honesty with which Obama, the 11th president since January 1, 1959, expressed his ideas, but in spite of his noble intentions there remained many questions to answer."
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richjm
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Mr_Costello
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Cometh the hour, cometh the man.
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Mr_Costello
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abbym0308
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He's shutting down the network of CIA secret prisons, banning torture and rendition, and pretty much making it official that Bush's War on Terror was a farce.
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Nephwrack
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honestly clownpunched? i dont think i have anything to fear but fear itself. the limits placed on vision by fear must be stifling. please tell me how it is. also we wouldnt have this problem in the first place if your glorious retarded cowboy idol bush hadnt decided to ignore the geneva convention.
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Nephwrack
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novilunio
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Amaizing how something can be done if you want i to get done. What is to be of this land then?
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novilunio
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chromehelmet
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He is letting his Muamim brothers go
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chromehelmet
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remanns
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Its a start.
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remanns
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mykuh
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I don't care how scared you are of these people, they're still HUMANS.
Torture is a war crime. Are we going to be shouting out to the world that we are war criminals forever?
Of course the terror isn't going to stop. We're all greedy little Americans, and that's never going to change. And yes, I mean YOU TOO!
When was the last time you recycled anything? Drove a hybrid car, or even better yet - took the bus? Donated to charity? Fed a homeless person? Gave an impoverished child a new pair of shoes? Volunteered? When was the last time you bought from a mom and pop store instead of Wal-Mart or Macy's or Target?
The terror will not stop until the people of America change and demand the same change out of their government and businesses.
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mykuh
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Tiker
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When i heard this on the radio when i woke up today i was shocked and confused, but happy at the same time then i hit the snooze and slept through my math class lol...but i think this is a step to say that there needs to be reformation within the walls of justice and our country..good looking out Barak
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Tiker
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blabHERmouth
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Thank goodness! If we want our own troops and citizens to be treated humanely we have to set the appropriate example ourselves!
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blabHERmouth
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kewal91
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where are the detainess gonna go?
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kewal91
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ocanada
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Haleluja!
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ocanada
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Ediblehearts
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Batman '12
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Ediblehearts
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contingent_reality
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Leave it to a leader whose roots are planted in struggle to keep word and move forward. Right on, President Obama. Right On!
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tj495
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looks like we have 8 years of repiglican trolling to look forward to. hehe i love it. squeal lil repiggies! squeal! -
yeah! +10
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tj495
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funksoulgurlll
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that public statement he just gave amazed me!
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chromehelmet
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Put em' to work on the L A freeways cleaning graffiti or Mcdonalds.
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chromehelmet
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co_dreamer
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As the sister of someone who died in the twin towers, I am so relieved to know that these people will no longer be tortured. The poor misguided terrorists have certainly suffered long enough. I can assure that the other members of my family, as well as my niece, have completely recovered from my sister not being around. And my niece is perfectly fine with not having her mother at her upcoming wedding. Yup, the prisoners deserve to have a wonderful rest of their life, having our tax dollars pay for their suffering. Gotta love the American mentality!
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Nephwrack
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looks like we have 8 years of repiglican trolling to look forward to. hehe i love it. squeal lil repiggies! squeal!
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Nephwrack
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clownpuncher
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Nephwrack:
Lets put them in your backyard.
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clownpuncher
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dfillingham
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Nephwrack:
RIght on. Let them squeal. They have no personal integrity. Just fear. I suppose they believe in National Security Theater too, like taking your shoes off every time you get on a plane? Or handing Billions of dollars to investment banks with no followup plan at all? The whistle blowers are coming out of the closet now, and we can see how wholesale our rights have been sold out to the business of fleecing taxpayers and blaming everyone else.
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Ya_Yletayo
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chowmein2012:
Except that torture and intelligence (in any sense of the word) are mutually exclusive concepts.
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Auberella
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Ah yes. I love how Current Vangaurd just covered this! We were chatting yesterday and I wonder what they are going to do with the prisoners whos countrys wont accept them back?
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osubrenden
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I suppose all of you wouldn't mind these detainee's being placed in a prison in your home town right? You wouldn't be worried at all about the repercussions from terror groups being taken out on your home city right? And when they are paroled I'm sure you all won't mind them moving in right next door right? And hundreds of millions that will be spent in the legal courts on appeals and trials is all better spent there than in our schools right?
Oh by the way has it occurred to ANYBODY that none of these fine gents had their Miranda rights read to them so in a civilian US court their all INNOCENT and will be MUST be given mistrials.
Hmmmm idealism gone bad again!
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osubrenden
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PrimeTime
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osubrenden:
thank you for understanding
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PrimeTime
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quixotic12
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osubrenden:
Would you like to be detained for 7 years without trial, tortured and treated as subhuman? Would you as a US citizen be alright with your constitutional rights being ripped to shreds? Government is a contract between the state and the people and Bush broke that contract. So that means that yes, they should get to go free. Of course they will be closely, closely monitored for the rest of their lives. No we should never follow blindly, we should examine and hold our leaders accountable for their actions. Obama is attempting to correct the wrongs that have been done by the Bush administration and I commend him.
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quixotic12
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noxidereus
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osubrenden:
I second quixotic12's statement.
The mishandling of justice in this case was done by Bush. Obama inherited this mess and is doing what he can given the situation. Torture is a war crime. Bush caused this whole mess.
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noxidereus
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shroomfairy
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Another take on the story.
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shroomfairy
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PrimeTime
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all i am really saying here is you're in the I want America to succeed. I want the right policies for America. It's not about The Messiah or the anointed one or any one individual. Any wrong-handed policies that's going to take America off a course of success which is what we've been on individual responsibility, liberty, freedom. You know, we all have choices in America. It's the antithesis of where we're headed.
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PrimeTime
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wow fast to sign paper that bush was had preped and didn't sign 3 weeks ago. how do you feel in brooklyn if another plane hit somewhere in your burrow. i guess it would be okay and obama would still be the best right?
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wilycomet
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PrimeTime:
oh please
enough with this terrorist shit already - 3 years ago
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acbrooklyn
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close it...this is great news......... put them in genral population in a state pen, they might not make their own trials,oh and no more torture,very human of us.i like da prez he fast worker.
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acbrooklyn
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PrimeTime
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God help american with a leader like this.
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noxidereus
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PrimeTime:
Ignorance of the masses is always more dangerous than who the leader is.
Bush is a war criminal. If he didn't torture people and break the law himself, this whole gitmo thing wouldn't even be an issue. Obama is moving in the right direction. A retarded monkey would have been an improvement over Bush.
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noxidereus
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PrimeTime
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Thank you for making me feel less safe with these terrorist hungry to get revenge and do more killing.
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ajiacoysancocho
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PrimeTime:
How do you know that they were terrorists in the first place? Geez, paranoia like that is what locked people up in there.
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magyver68
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LOL!!! escape....? LOL... destiny has NO Escape...
who is "we"
america vs humanity...But then again... God has put a secret window into the closed room.....lol...funny how evil cannot detect where it is...lol, certainly not a lacking in effort though...God help us!!!
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magyver68
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elnawal
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I like that Obama guy!!
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elnawal
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PrimeTime
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this is not good news now these American killers will be someplace where they can escape easily I hope we don't have another twin towers situation so Obama can make us look better in the world eyes ..... Which we as Americans shouldn't give a flying *hoot* ya feel me?
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Ya_Yletayo
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PrimeTime:
This is not good news? You know, maybe you are right, maybe it's not good news that child soldiers such as Omar Khadr arn't goin to be locked up in the world's most dispicable military prison since the gulags. It's probably horrible that some humanity will be taken in the treatment of individuals who have yet to be proven guilty in most cases, and God forbid this basition of torture and coercive methods that does nothing but coax confessions and information reminiscent of "1984" out of the detainees be closed in favour of dealing with the prisonners in proper legal fashion on your own soil.
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Ya_Yletayo
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dfillingham
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PrimeTime:
You have the same mentality that Bush and Cheney wanted you to have. Everyone is guilty without a trial, without representation, tortured with no necessary proof of any wrong doing or involvement in wrongdoing.
A career officer in the Army military police said this is long overdue, that Gitmo was the major recruitment tool for the groups fighting against the US in Iraq, second only to Abu Graib. The military knows, but you are stuck in the same mindset that got us into Iraq to begin with.
We have a rule of law, a constitution, a court system for these people. And there are lots of empty prisons to put them in. But we have to watch that. Cheney was sued by a South Texas jury for torture of some Mexican immigrants in South Texas jails part owned by Cheney. It was dismissed by a Bush appointed judge, but the torture needs to stop. It never works except in people's fantasies. There are studies proving it, available on the web. And it fuels the recruitment of all the groups that hate us. May it stop now!
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dfillingham
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diabolical44
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some of the things Obama needs to do is just so simple and obvious. just reverse the legacy of bush as much as possible
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magyver68
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gO Bama...gOBama...gO Bama...
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magyver68
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magyver68:
We don't know. See, this is the thing. Now, normally a mainstream media would have vetted this guy and we would know this. We don't know what he is. That's the whole point. People don't care what he is. They don't care who he is. They care that he's black. They care that he's historic. They care that they think he's an intellectual because of the way he speaks. It's all about how he speaks. I look at some of the facial expressions of people when they're watching the guy, and it's frightening. one thing means nothing all he had to do was sign papers and indanger all of america again ... thank you for beiing smart
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quixotic12
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magyver68:
WTH Primetime? How was that response at all pertinent to magyver68's comment?
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magyver68:
Whoop Whoop!
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watching100
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northerntouchblog
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It's about time... What a terrible scar on America ...
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magyver68
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hmmmm...humanity???
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magyver68
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magyver68
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magyver68:
gO Bama...gO Bama...gO Bama...
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magyver68
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magyver68:
Great song indeed! Love it!
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tursiops
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crob80227
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Great job! Obama is already 100 times more effective than Bush ever was and it's only a few days into his Presidency.
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magyver68
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hmmmmm... someone doing what they are saying,could this be a restored faith in humanity???
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magyver68:
humanity???
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NexRL
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Why is he not closing it sooner than that? It's nice to know that its going to be closed but right now Guantanamo Bay is a stain on Americas shirt. We need to clean it up.
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NexRL
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NexRL:
The biggest issue is where to bring these criiminals to. They're trying to avoid bringing them to US soil, so now their trying to see what countries might take them.
So far, only Portugal has offered to take some of the detainees...
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NexRL:
Lets put them in Pelosi or Murthas communities
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clownpuncher
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AnnieMole
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Here's the video of his order
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AnnieMole
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AnnieMole:
''dispose' of the detainees?' huhhh
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tursiops
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AnnieMole:
Release them, I heard some of them might be going to Switzerland.
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mattbrawn
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Check out the latest Vanguard pod that sees Adrian Baschuk, after finally getting media approval, visiting the detainee camps at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Adrian’s reports includes interviews with a freed detainee, detention guards, psych workers and more.
An amazing insight into 'the most controversial jail in the World.'
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joshuaheller
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I'm surprised (and elated) that he is following up on his promises so quickly.
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joshuaheller:
can't say Im surprised at all, some people actually mean what they say, AND say what they mean...(I know, strange concept these days..)
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pirho338
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unimatrix0
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this is good news
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unimatrix0
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unimatrix0:
Not if the next prisoners will be Americans...
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