you have no clue....

ummm...notice how much the gun sales and ammo sales have gone up since nov. 4th...ummm

Obviously these gun sales are driven by a fear that he will fail to recognize the second amendment rights of Americans. His Attorney General nominee argued before the Supreme Court that the second amendment did not apply to citizens.

you cant shoot back without a gun

Our gun culture is part of the problem, not the solution.

you say----I dont need a gun to protect myself i really dont have it in me to take another persons life unless it is in defense of my family from certain death.-----what will you do if that times ever comes? do you think the bad guy will make an appt. to come over, or do you hope he will wait for you to go out and get one. the time is now to arm yourself. the bad guy isnt going to wait. what are you waiting for?

and in times of civil unrest.... shit man by that times its way to late.

I don't fear my neighbors coming to kill me more than I fear the government coming to kill me. So until the second revolution looks like it's going to start I don't need a gun...

...And I'm pretty sure that I'll still be able to get a gun and bullets from somewhere other than Wal-Mart by then.

I think you're coming off a bit paraniod talking about the non-descript bad guy, however it's understandable to have some sort of protection living a few miles away from your nearest neighbor.

yeah thats part of it for me although I had one back when i lived in vegas too. I also live a far distance from any police station and it could take 30 minutes or more for a cop to get to me and thats in good driving conditions.

guess i should say i live in the north and we have 2 feet of snow on the ground right now and the dirts roads dont always get plowed on a regular basis.

You must live in the city. Are you afraid of hammers or any other tools? A gun is a tool and nothing more.

me too. it was wild around here (se tx).

what your not armed already??? what are you waiting for?

pathetic act of desperation? I dont know about that. how would you defend yourself and your family in times of trouble? dont you think its important to be able to defend your loved ones? I guess soem folks see things differantly than others. I have been around guns my whole life. I cant understand how someone wouldn't want to be able to defend themselves. I live in the sticks. if someone was breaking into my home it could take 30 minutes or more for a cop to show up. by that time my wife and i could be dead.

9-1-1 GOV sponsered dial-a-prayer...a gun in your hand is better than a cop on the phone.

you said it all in that statement...you have been conditioned to loathe guns. there is nothing to fear from a gun. a bouncer at a club ion vegas i used to go to all the time when i lived there is doing 40 to life for killing his wife, not with a gun but a iron. anything can kill. a gun can protect.

Said differently: you expect war, you expect violence. Is that right?

no only do i expect it I am prepared for it. I could survive a year with never leaving my farm. could you? if not what would you do. People in the south east prepare for hurricanes people in the midwest prepare for tornados people in the north prepare for a harsh winter at least the smart ones do. these things may or may not come to those areas. I am no differant. I am prepared for whatever comes my way, or at least as prepared as i can be. the 6 P's Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance, in times of trouble.

I don't live on a farm. But we have made already storage of food for we expect that food shortage might arrive soon. You say "I am prepared for whatever comes my way" - what does it mean? Do you have any purpose in your life or do you say it only by your instinct for survival? I myself don't see any real sense in all the world happening, only in the view of following Jesus who is my savior and who cleansed me from my sins, him I trust and by this I believe that I will spend my eternity with him in heaven.

thats all fine well and good. I too believe in god. I am a luthern. But that doesnt mean that i wont be prepared. what the heck do you mean by, "do i have a purpose in life" I work, I pay my bills, I have a good time when i can. How long can you survive on the food you have stored. do you have water. how will you defend your food when someone without food comes and wants it. if you live in a city this is a real possibility.

That's surely a reasonable point but you know if you consider that there might come anyway a bombarder or so then any storage is in vain.. therefore I take it easy - either it will be possible to make use of the storage that can last for several months I suppose or there will be anyway a totally different happening. And definitely I would not defend myself with a gun because I keep the commandment: don't kill, don't fornicate - both I have kept till now and feel in peace by doing so. And to your being a lutheran - a membership means nothing, only what is in the heart counts.

I live in the middle of nowhere. if I am bombed then so be it. they would have to be aiming for MY HOUSE. theres nothing else around. I am sure when and if the time comes there will be enough for them to do in the cities. as far as whats in my heart thats my worry not yours. as far as not killing. it is justified in some instances and protecting family is one of them. If you choose not to kill to protect family. I suppose thats your choice, however poor of a choice it may be. I wouldnt even think twice about putting a bullet into someone to protect my wife. it wouldnt even faze me, i would do it as easily as I did to the hog i slaughtered last weekend, and the cow i did this weekend.

I live on a farm....its a fact of life for us.....do you eat meat. where do you think it comes from. I can assure you this. as a trucker I have been in many slaughter houses. the animals are treated very bad there. I love my animals and I treat them very good. they are taken care of and get the best foods and health care i can give them. they are kept indoors when its cold and when it comes time to slaughter them i do it as humanely and as quickly as possible.

what i mean by that is i wouldnt hesitate to do whatever is neccassary of me to protect my wife from someone who wants do do her harm. It also wouldn't bother me to do whatever is neccassry to protect her. if it was her or some scumbag...for me the choice is clear and easy. I find it hard to believe most other folks dont feel the same.

to be honest with you I feel bad when i slaughter animals. they havent done me wrong. I feel worse for the animal than i would for the scumbag that was trying to harm my wife.

Ihatethemall, so then you can be totally at ease if you have such concepts. By the way with my pointing to the fact that only what is in your heart counts I meant to u n d e r l i n e that even though you claim to be a christian it doesn't mean a u t o m a t i c a l l y that you are saved or have reserved a place in heaven, that's a nonsense. It depends how sincere and upright you are, so not the outwards counts. Whereas I have to say that it cannot be as well that it would be all right insight and you could not realize by the outwards things.

How bare words I hear here from you farmer. You think you are justified because you are lutheran. If you believe in Jesus why do you have to be stupid lutheran? Tell me please. Do you think in heaven there is a lutheran section? Nonsense. Jesus said when Peter took his sword at Getshemane: "put back your sword because whoever takes a sword must be killed by the sword" - if you had not read this part in your lutheran bible, make a research and believe what he says. You would kill someone because he is against your wife. And you are protected because you live in a farm and have food storage. Take my word and remember if it will take place that on your field the tanks will go to reach the city and kill you and both you and your wife no matter how well you are backed up. You can have guns, they have missiles and tanks. And if you have a gun and you use it you can be sure you don't endure the eternal judgment. I personally don't want to meet a man slayer in heaven and I think god does not want either. You are concerned about your life on earth but when a women speaks to your heart about heavenly things you reject it. You should test yourself where your treasure is, in heaven or on the earth. Best wishes for further arguments of you.

your wacked on dope dude. you live your life and i will live mine. and to call me a stupid luthern...well thats just childish. sticks and stones.......and what the hell are you even talking about when a women speaks to my heart i reject it. are you feeling O.K.really I mean you want me to call you a doctor. dont judge me. in fact go judge yourself.

and being a luthern is just how i was raised. i do not attend church.

Lirybka, according to the picture looks like a woman, whom you rejected. If you don't see she is a female maybe you need a dr. About the lutheran stupidity, I care not, you could be baptist or charismatic or, evangelic, does not matter I would call you stupid, and god would call you fool. So if he does that cant be childish. Bye the way, you could not simply react on my statements about murder, heaven etc. Maybe you need a dr.

I would kill anyone who means harm to my family. if you choose to lay down and take it I guess thats to bad for you and your family. This is america. we do things differant here. I refuse to argue the point about god with you. theres no reason for it. get back on the meds boy you need them.

Bless your little pea picking heart, ya really don't have a clue, do ya?

lol thats a no shitter, there will come a time when we no longer fear our GOV and they fear us.

Well put. Freedom first!

wanna bet

Whoo Hoo you tell 'em Tony riddle the wolf

What do you mean learn history, no offense, I just don't understand?

YEAH!!!!
You go Mr. Dukes...

Respect!!

Its all well and good to demonise all protective measures when you aint using them... thats until the sh!t hits the fan...

never underestimate the willingness of fools to think the GOV will take care of them.

Don't worry we aren't that weak or compulsive. Forward looking, strong, resolute, American, Free? Yes!!!