Defense department announces civilian expeditionary workforce

it just will not happen look how many people are against it just on here. we will fight. i will fight. the people will always rise up against the tyranny.

In the footstops of Mao,Stalin,Hitler.........one day soup kitchens ,next day brown shirts.

Well after reading these comments, i can only ask where are the intelligent people?

I read your comments and am horrified! First of all those of you that feel Bush was the guy to have should go and pay to have that lobotomy undone. Second, your telling me that we are less dedicated to our freedom and beliefs than our enemies? Because I can guarantee that they don't need to be told or even asked to fight or serve to defend their country. You are a pitiful lot that believe that Obama is asking you too much to right the terrible wrongs that Bush has left in his wake. And, I might add, VERY unpatriotic!!!

This article and this clown posting it is just another Rush Limbaugh wannabe with delusions. The guy is a hater. He hates that his candidate lost. He hates blacks. He hates to have a real job. This ignorant cocksucker even has the words HATE in his name. He is just a pathetic hater who makes shit up to feel his own self delusions. I hope millions of people do see this pod. It will make them laugh as hard as I did when they realize that EVERYTHING IS MADE UP!!!

hahaha
is that spelled seek hiel or syck heel what ever im sure the lord obama will tell us if it Changes

If you Google search Department of Defense Directive 1404.10 you can pull it up and read it for yourself. As I understand it, all it does is create another agency within the DoD that allows civil service personal to be added to a data base that would basically put them on a call list in the event they are needed. Civil service personell are previous military personell and as such are subject to be recalled to duty at any time. Under Pres. Bush a previous military man who served in Desert Storm and had been out of the military for 6 or 7 years was called back to active duty to go to Iraq. DoD 1404.10 allows for the structure of a group of people pulled from all ready existing civil service areas to serve on a limited basis in the Expeditionary Workforce. The option that allows them to be forced into service is much the same as the option the millitary has to recall soldiers who have been out of the military for years. As I understand it the Expeditionary Workforce would be used in areas where some active military could be replaced to be put in more combat related areas. That is take the place of a military person in one area so that military person could be deployed to another area. There are all ready a number of civil service people under different DoD directives that work in similar capacities.
This is not a draft it is a restructuring of current policy.

Jason I think we all get your point. You posted the same exact post some 13 times. You also seem to be obsessed with jerking off. or at least talking about it.

This article is fake.
Just like all the other lies (i.e. Obama = Muslim)
This is just more fictional propaganda for the right to jerk off over.

HOGWASH!!! There is no mention of this anywhere officially, yet it made it onto 'independent' news sources. There is no mention of this not because it is covered up, but because it is a volunteer program which may exist for civilians ALREADY working for the Department of Defense, NOT a conscription force for the civilian body at large!!!!

Jeesh.

LOL I want to thank you folks. With few exceptions these comments have really been amusing.

Really don't want to give, do we?

Like Mark above, I too have served. We were involved in Viet Nam then and the lottery draft was started about the same time I enlisted. Drafted troops are not of the same caliber as those that enlist. They do a poor job and the military doesn't really want them.

So I don't think a draft of any kind is the way to go. However, the idea of service has a lot of merit. The best solution to this I've ever heard of was written by a science fiction writer about 50 years ago. Makes sense to me.

The basic idea is that participation in the running of our govt. wasn't something awarded to you by the accident of your birth, but rather a right to be earned. Those who would help to rule, must first serve. Everybody. A genuine contribution - maybe a year of your life. Doesn't have to be military, it just has to be full time for the benefit our country for the time period. Participation is voluntary. But if you're not willing to give a year to your country one time in your life then you'll not be allowed to participate in the running of it.

And won't THAT turn some heads? Remember what Kennedy said? "Ask not what your country can do for you,....

The title made me think about an actual expeditionary force... Like to Mars. Instead, I get pseudo-conspiracy bullshit. Bring on The Mars Expeditionary Force!

I can't believe infowars made a top story, oh well.

Anyway, been said before, IT"S NOT MANDATORY.

Christ, this story got so spammed up with bullshitt conspiracy theorists that it hardly matters what anyone posts anymore.

I'd think this stuff would be kinda a national guard job, but there all busy fighting two wars I guess.

When do we get issued a 'brown shirt'?

I guess the Messiah people worshipped last year during election is actually made out of glass, not stone...You can see right through him all along, you just didn't look hard enough... Now can anyone see the other glass statues ( Congress, Senate, lawmakers, ) There not stone either...

Notice the yellow border protecting the flag. ;)

So the bankers...then the economy...then the military...

WTF?

Now, then, before the whole economic downturn, I had a relatively beautiful vision of the "expeditionary force" dreamed up, but now I have my reservations.

The way the money is being divided up in relation to asking people to sacrifice is a little, ummm, unreasonable at this point?

I mean, with the terrorists and all, a civilian expeditionary force under the war department?

This sounds like something I dreamed up...BUT I'm not sure the war department is the face we want to show. I'm just saying. I wanted to give everyone a TV, air conditioner, and food in exchange for modest work and responsible behavior.

We the people need to have a talk with one another, although a life as a modern day Indiana Jones-type is easy propaganda to sell. No. We have much more work to do here at home first.

The problem here isn't OBAMA, the problem is most of us thing that voting for somebody really matters. Most of us think that our government can help when in reality the governments of the world will continue to go to war, kill one another, etc.

The whole system needs to come down in the entire world and we all have to change the way we think and live fundamentally.

So long as there are nations in the world, so long as there are presidents and governments we will never know peace.

~ Mind Control

Have any of you people checked out the website this comes from? This guy is a loony.

hitler.

I read this article earlier on in the week and this is not about Obama's civilian national security force just yet, but since Rahm Emanuel wrote a book on establishing a Hitler-style youth brigade you can bet it's going to happen.

I just love how reminding people of what Obama really is and what he's doing versus what he said he'd do.

So how bout those 20,000 + troops going to Afghanistan? Any word on the troops comng home from Iraq?

I think that a lot of the Anti-Obama people who are posting comments on this has not fully read the article.

The comments on here are not even correct. Are you all even employed by the DOD? - Hello?!

"I do not view the labor movement as part of the problem. To me, it's part of the solution," he said, to a round of applause. "You cannot have a strong middle class without a strong labor movement."

On the middle-class tax force, Obama said "we're not forgetting the poor because they, too, share our American dream."

He said his administration wants to make sure low-income people "get a piece" of the American pie "if they're willing to work for it."

THIS IS ALL IT RENSURES, YOU GUYS MADE IT SOUND SCARIER THAN WHAT IT REALLY IS.
-Require federal contractors to offer jobs to current workers when contracts change.
-Reverse a Bush order requiring federal contractors to post notice that workers can limit financial support of unions serving as their exclusive bargaining representatives.
-Prevent federal contractors from being reimbursed for expenses meant to influence workers deciding whether to form a union and engage in collective bargaining.

Military or Civilian DoD should be mandatory for all US citizens over 18 years of Age. It is time for all lazy ass americans get up and do something for their country who is running out of military people and 6% of the military is non citizen alien it is sad. Mandatory Draft for all US citizens 18 years or older up to the age of 35 if they just became an American.

i knew there was something behind all the hope and change bull.

i wanted mccain and palin to bring the pain.

it goes to show

believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.

and do your research and do your homework. before making any decisions.

You must be out of your flippin mind!!! There is no way I would choose or be forced to serve his interests...I've done my time and service in the military, and that was more than enough. I certainly agree with a limited period of mandatory military service, but it is outrageous to outline so loosely the paramaters for such an initiative. Anyone else noticing the Communist trend? I'm thinking "Communism For Dummies" may have been the real book this President swore in on...

Can no one read? It says "civilian EMPLOYEES of the DoD".

Even if it did say just civilians, I would gladly go for my country. I would be in the military now if I weren't disabled.

And yes, I voted for Obama. Rock on, Obama!

Why is the shit conspiracy theorist website "Infowars" the only source you conspiracy theorists can provide for your conspiracy theory shiite? Infowars just makes up as much bullshit as it can, then they laugh their asses off at all the idiots who believe it.

Don't be an idiot.

the whole point is it aint fin a happen. 98 percent of what Alex Jones says aint fin a happen in the manner that he paints it, if at all. How impressionable and fearfull you kids are.

I don't know, I could learn to enjoy some authoritarian power over all you regular people...

There are a lot of responses I wish I could respond to; but there seems to be a whole lack of historic knowledge of our country. When somebody says he loves his country, like me I have lived a long and full life, And I love this country, that does'nt mean I love this government. I loved the Government of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. My original ancestors arrived here in the USA in 1738 and served in the Continental Army. My ancestors served in the GAR and one was strarved to death at Salisbury North Carolina, and his ten year old son was murdered by a couple of German immigrants. My Uncle served in WWI and was gassed in France and came home and died. Now I am a veteran but no hero, yet I have found that most of us still lack intelligence and have no idea of what this government is. It is a seperate entity from America and the American people. It has its own rules and its apparent that they in turn ake orders from a higher authority. If corporate lobbying were against the law then it would give the American people a chance of living under a rule of law. Yet for two hundred years the American people have let Congress sit on their fat butts and run off at the mouth, argueing and passing stupid laws that have made virtual slaves of each and every man woman and child, yet you feel safe just because you set at home and tend to your own business, for if you made a move you will be breaking one of the laws that were enacted during this two hundred years. And it has come to the point where we have to be very careful of what we say lest we offend some body and he takes us to court. We have political correctness now, another invention of somebody who had nothing better to do. We have to be careful of what we say or we may be racist and antisemitic, or if we look at somebody a certain way we may be harasssing someone. Now these are the things we have to deal with, but before anybody makes a comment they should read or better yet view some of the Videos on YOU TUBE like John Perkins "confessions of an Economic Hitman" or watch the Video "The rise of the Rothschilds" read where did the CFR, the Tri Lateral Commission, The Annenbergs. Oh and look up some information on David Rockefeller and the power he yields with the US Government. Find out about Zbigniew Bzrezinski the founder of the Tri-Lateral Commission and his contribution to the think tank. His book "The Grand Chessboard" pretty much sums up his contribution to America and its middle east and soon to be far east problems.Its not enough to just make a response, find out how nasty many of our governmental Departments have been over the years and learn why the world hates us so much. I was 15 years in the Merchant marine and learned a hell of a lot about the world we live in. It is abeautiful country but then it is also a beautiful world because thaer are still human beings living all over the world and before we consider our selves civilized look ath the number of people who have been butchered and slaughtered over the world Not only in Gaza but in Africa in Indonesia and even in South America and much of this is done by American radicals and who are being paid by the US government through private corporations. Obama may or may not condone these activities and he may or may nor condone clandestine assinations as has happened in the past like Viet Nam and Iran. But we have in large part been responsible for this cancer in the world. Somebody needs to come and clean up this act.

The article doesn't seem very biased to me. It sights its sources and is pretty straight forward. I think some people might be jumping conclusions but it's understandable (and healthy) with things of this nature.

The directorate basically outlines the military conscription of all DOD civilian personal. Instead of being a draft this is an effective alternative for expanding the army.

A few people have noted that the STATED primary function of these conscripts wont be actually fighting (although that option is clearly allowed for). However that doesn't mean that they are any less soldiers. Currently our soliders carry out all the tasks mentioned in the DoD report.

In addition this makes it much easier politically to deploy troops on US soil since they will technically be civilians, which is indeed a deeply troubling concept.

This is stupid. Its coming off a conspiracy website, has no real point other than to twist the statements in the directive to suit their purposes, and you all have bought it hook line and sinker. Wake up, people! That's what these folks originally wanted the world to do - now they're just as bad as the rest of the crazies out there. Its sad, because I own a bunch of early Disinformation stuff, and they used to have something good to say; now its all crap, you you guys are so eager for things to be doom-and-gloom wrong that you jump on without even reading the damn article. Pathetic.

Does anyone check what links are being posted? Infowars.com is a creation of the lunatic-mind of Alex Jones. He is a right-wing nutjob and ultra-conservative conspiracy theorist attempting to gain any-type of credibility. Let me be the first to announce for Obama that no one will be forced to serve in a civilian military meant to match our current military.

I beg you, pretty-please, quit posting garbage here.

No man shall ever come to harm from my hands without justice at the fore most priority of consern when taking such a intensely important action against another living, breathing human being. The man I follow into battle is not this one and not for this cause. He will see many who will not follow him into battle no matter how many cookies he shoves down the populations throat along side these corporate scum that will throw you away like toxic waste into our rivers and oceans. You people better pay close attention to this guy he may turn out worse then bush since he is more intelligent and obviously more charming.

It can also be the precursor to expansion to civilians in general in lieu of a draft. Therefore, my comments regarding it still stand. I do not agree with conscription of any kind in America.

Here's the proper quote of the document:

"Management retains the authority to direct and assign civilian EMPLOYEES, either voluntarily,
involuntarily, or on an unexpected basis to accomplish the DoD mission."

sometimes you have to...... wear stretchy pants......
its a metaphore for doing more in your life.

People you all need to get a clue! This only impacts people working for the DOD! If you are not an employee of the defense dept. it does not apply to you.

I'm not an extremist. You need to change your misconceptions of others just to validate your own viewpoint. But I am sure you will join this. No? The ass umption of those who think that we don't give back or work if we are against this is ignorant at best. And my father and many others in my family and many other families as well fought for my right to dissent just as you have the right to sit and complain about people you think are complaining rather than extol the virtues of this.

This looks to me like a kinder gentler type of conscription and as such I will not choose to be a part of it. I already give back to my community and to my country. I don't need Obama or any other politician of all people to tell me I need to give back. If any in this country need to give back it is the politicians who have been sucking the American people dry for decades.

Before everyone gets their panties in a twist, we should look at the source of this interpretation of the law. It's from "info wars." Which is not a credible site.

Second of all it's politically impractical to force anyone to do anything.

Third, people need to stop bitching about serving their country. The only reason why you stand here today (speaking as freely as you do) is because people died for that right.

PS: I'd like to point out that only the extremists are jumping to conclusions.

Wow I am impressed. Obama figured out a way to reinstate the draft under a new packaging. Now that in a nutshell reflects His approach. Repackage the same old same old and calling it change.

don't worry all the people without jobs will be the first to join.

I got my mother to vote for Barr.

Conscription is fascist.

The Obama DOD doesn't yet know how to use civilians. If the administration ever wants to learn how, I might help. Civilians can stop and prevent wars, just not untrained and dumb ones. Worse is smart civilians pushed around by dumb leaders.

Civilians in the Peace Corps often wound up on economic development schemes benefiting only one rich man in a poor country.

Management retains the authority to direct and assign civillians either volutarily, involuntarily, or on an unexpected basis to accomplish the DoD mission.

Is this America? I will have to do some further reading on this. I was actually thinking that a Civilian Conservation Corp like the one during the "Great depression" might be a good idea to help push Obama's Green initiative but not on an involuntary basis.

Let's see. There was the Peace Corp, the AmericCorp, Job Corp. I don't think any of these was under the Department of Offense. We need to get our terminology correct. Words like oligarchy, imperial, offense, undermine, manifest destiny, need to be used instead of democracy, national interest, defensive, pacification, ad bullshit. Capitalism? Yeah we have capitalism for you and me and socialism for the rich and powerful. Sheep.

Captain B.

can anyone else say, "socialism" .. And who said Hitler was dead?!

PS... and for those who think their words on the internet can't come back to bite them in the a$$..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

What this sounds like to me is that civilians will be filling in for contractors to do i.e. cooking, cleaning, landscaping, laundry etc,although I'm not sure what supporting combat missions means. Regardless folks, Bush broke the military and the budget and it sounds like we can no longer afford to pay excessive prices to have civilian contractors do things that can be just as effectively managed by the military.

So all you young Republicans who supported Bush's invasion to go to Iraq and kick some terrorist ass, here's your chance to actually do something other than shoot your mouths off. If you're smart, you'll take him up on the offer because you will have a choice as to what you do and where you go, whereas the other side of this coin is, in all probability, a draft where you won't have either.

You'll have to forgive me if I appear to be chuckling on the inside, because I AM. There is a new President in town and, unlike the last one, he is not willing to stand by and let a tiny minority do all the dirty work for the majority. So my friends, welcome to adulthood!

And to answer your question, yes, four years, 1976 to 1980. I wouldn't ever want to go back but will never regret my decision to serve.

Yes we can!

hahahahahahaha

What a celebrity he is.

I ALREADY GIVE BACK.

I love how we Americans are always the first to shout out about our freedoms, yet we are to lazy and short sighted to believe it is our responsibility to give back to the country that gives us those freedoms! For all you people that think other countries have it so great, why is it so many people are still trying to come to the US? Go live in or travel to other countries and you will see that you are fortunate to be living in the good old United States of America. Oh yeah, I voted for Obama, and I own guns.

FYI, the 'countdown' here just hit a 'snag.' Is that the same as trying to wait for something to jump over the one they don't want at the top?

Stasi. Nothing less.

DoD contractors over in afghanistan r safe as a person can be.

when they work they always have soldiers working with them or guarding them.

No chance in hell they will get hurt or injured. Way to many precautions r takin to insure these civilians, which is not a bad thing by any means

The directive applies to "civilian employees of the DoD," not everyone in the U.S. Also, "'If the employee does not wish to deploy, every effort will be made to reassign the employee to a nondeploying position.' the DoD report states."