Community | February 01, 2009 | 53 comments

Got a mortgage/credit card? Don't pay them.

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barkway
Finally something that we can all get behind: Don't pay your bills. It's not my idea, although it has appeal. It's the Fed's and it's the cornerstone of the new Homeownership Preservation Policy. To qualify for aid, the homeowner must be at least 60 days past due on his or her mortgage payments. (This program is for mortgages acquired from Bear Stearns and AIG rescues. Another program begun in December 2008 required that the homeowner be 90 days late.) At the same time, the mortgagee must be able to make a reduced monthly payment, therefore, must have some income, presumably a job. The having a job part might be tough; the missing two payments part, easy.
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53 comments // Got a mortgage/credit card? Don't pay them.

  • KI4CLZ
  • barkway
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • Representative Kaptor (sp?) was on today and she make lots of sense. I wish she was my Rep. Our home values are down 20 percent. No danger of forcloseure here, but 20 percent!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • nkeg87
  • NoRoomfordonkeys
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      NoRoomfordonkeys  
    • all i no is dont pass the stimulus!!, the goverment should give everyone a check 3000 is wat 800 billion divided by 300 mill give or take a few hundred then people should pay off some debt money for banks and less debt for consumer and more buying power for the dollar no one is talking about the dollar being the next mexican peso with hyperinflation soda thets a dollar could cost 5 dollars the real answer is no help wat it out this is the markets backstopp get rid of the people that cant afford there homes or subprime loans and the job loss its the dumb politicians always owing a "favor" and the donkeys this stimulus is just a wishlist no real economic growth i live in mass the most liberal state in the country the only thing saving mass right now is its diverse and strong microeconomy but beleive me livin in a state where its debt is 10300 per person just means two things taxes going spending going up thanx donkeys ha ha donkeys

    • 3 years ago
  • carmalite
  • thrashjuhnkie
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      thrashjuhnkie  
    • Awesome, your country sets up a program to help those who can't afford their mortagage payment and are possibly in need of more and you plot to ruin it. Great job. Believe it or not it's all of us combined meaning you as an individual that have to get us out of this. And the more we take advantage of things like this the longer and harder this recession will be-

    • 3 years ago
  • aquamammal
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      aquamammal  
    • What a way to further encourage consumerism.

      If you can't afford it, don't fuckin' buy it. It's not that complicated.

      Expect for healthy food and clean water and universal med care, that shitte just saves money in the end.

      XVX for life, R.A.S.H. 'til death.

    • 3 years ago
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • aquamammal:

      You got it! They don't increase wages but encourage consumerism on credit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And the parasites hae us both ways. They get their money in double because we borrowned. They lend because our wages are low and then we borrow and pay the parasites usuarious rates. We can't pay so they get the property.

      Its class warfare and a redistribution from people who earn wages to people who live off investments or are way up the food chain. They are thieves.

    • 3 years ago
  • barkway
  • WhiteNoise
  • akamaial
  • Lirybka
  • dirtyemowords
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      dirtyemowords  
    • If it keeps people from losing their homes, then it's a positive thing, but obviously the banks are going to be pretty tight on who gets the aid. The government has surely proven beyong all doubt that the banks are the ones running things, and there's not a lot you can do about it....

    • 3 years ago
  • carmalite
  • mik661
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      mik661  
    • The current advice of realistic financial planners is if you are underwater on your house and/or have a lot of unsecured debt, and do not have signifigant assets such as stocks, bonds or other real propery, you would be a fool not to mail in the keys and walk away.

    • 3 years ago
  • Robroy1
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      Robroy1  
    • 1% for forty years? Where did you see that deal. The deals they offer are almost as bad as the ones they had to begin with. It is not as simple as people may think. I have done some searching and all I can say is good luck getting the fat cats to give anybody any slack. Let them take the house instead of being a slave to the banks.

    • 3 years ago
  • barkway
  • flyingkick
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      flyingkick  
    • It's not as simple as that.

      Being late on a payment is not the only thing that qualifies you for aid. You also have to prove you aren't able to pay.

    • 3 years ago
  • vzeek
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      vzeek  
    • The assistance the banks offer is a joke. The help is at a bare minimum. Unless you are on the balls of your ass, they aren't going to offer much and what they do offer is down right ridiculous. I seeked out assistance restructuring my mortgage with Citibank and they were not at all willing to provide much. First off the people you interface with at Citi are down right rude, insensitive and came across as if they don't give a shit! It took 2.5 months to hear back from them after providing them with every detail of my financial situation. Then what they finally came back and offered was a mortgage reduction of $400/mo for 3 months against a mortagage payment of $1850/mo. Then they want a baloon payment after 90 days of almost $5000!!! Then the letter states that should I accept this offer and fail to make a monthly payment that they will begin foreclosure proceedings immediately. Isn't that nice!!! The offer makes no sense and the ballon payment is way more than the discount of $400 for 3 months plus the mortgage of $1850 after the 90 days. It looks like they want people to fail because there is no help in this offer. I am currently unemployed, hopefully not for long. I have 2 lates but have been borrowed against a 401 to keep up with the payments but what Citi is offering is downright obnoxious. They just got bailed out for 4.8 bil and this is what they have to offer. Things in this country must change! The banks contiunue to screw the people at every opportunity and it will never change unless a revolution takes place. But there aren't enough people truly feeling the pain for that to happen...maybe another 25 years from now.

    • 3 years ago
  • mcflyy6
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      mcflyy6  
    • Finnaly, this originally went to congress over a year ago, instead they decided to start bailing everybody out. In essence, funding bad business practices. And like "alcoholics with the keys to the liquor cabinet" the banks started paying bonuses to thier CEOs (You destroyed the western economy, Good Job!). These people have no concept of what money is, it's just dividends to them, while those who are struggling to hold ontho thier homes, scraping up every single extra penny that they can have a true appreciation for the American dollar and how it's value just keeps dimensioning.

    • 3 years ago
  • CalgarC
  • opit
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      opit  
    • Fiscal Responsibility
      The 'economic system' was built on assumptions of 'fair trade is no robbery'. The perversion of international currency exchange was only one of the strains which made the situation unstable.
      Activists have been promoting non-payment of taxes and loans for years. It took the government endorsing such things as policy to destroy the concept of currency completely : you're just seeing the start of a snowball effect of destruction of world trade.

    • 3 years ago
  • alivein85
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      alivein85  
    • You might as well stop paying all your credit card bills to. I mean c'mon; I did about seven or eight months ago simply because I had no choice; I didn't have the money to pay it. I never looked back either.

    • 3 years ago
  • rickm8
  • barbara3d
  • SoupIsGoodFood
    • 0
      SoupIsGoodFood  
    • This is basically taking the power out of the hands of the banks, which is a good thing in my book. Making life affordable for people about to fall through the cracks is something we should always support.

    • 3 years ago
  • rickm8
  • nkeg87
  • carmalite
  • barbara3d
    • 0
      barbara3d  
    • Anyone remember when Russia made the change to Capitalism? A lot people did not make it and there were a lot of suicides. And the influx of Russian women scamming for rich men in the USA.

      The riots in Moscow today asking for a return to Communism/Socialism and hating Putin was weird. Some were carrying the former symbol of communism, the sycle (sp)

    • 3 years ago
  • TabulaRasa
  • justright
  • TheColorYellow
  • akamaial
  • p9teacher
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      p9teacher  
    • This is fantasic, the uprising of the real ruling class- the american consumer! If we act in concert people, change will happen!

    • 3 years ago
  • rickm8
  • diabolical44
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      diabolical44  
    • great idea. let's see if we can completely ruin everything while we're at it. I'm trying to go back to a hunter / gatherer society myself. Mad Max thunderdome style!

    • 3 years ago
  • charfman
  • Thargor19
  • cool0ne
  • immortalovercr
  • justright
  • dariusvons
  • gracesteban
  • Ando_SB
  • kennymotown
  • carmalite
    • 0
      carmalite  
    • kennymotown:

      Captilism is a failure if it not regulated rigoursly. Thieves will steal and they did and here we are with the Bangsters and the mess GW and Paujson helped happen.

      Recall, Paulson, an ex Wal STreet guy let the banks dol whatever they wanted with our money. Buy expensive rugs, 30,000 antigue tolits.

    • 3 years ago
  • barkway
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      barkway  
    • I want that 1%/40-year fixed mortgage term being offered to those in foreclosure or on the verge of it. I thought I was doing ok with a 5.2% 30-year fixed, never missed a payment track record but it seems I could have gotten a better deal by NOT being such a responsible homeowner and borrower.

    • 3 years ago
  • carmalite
    • 0
      carmalite  
    • barkway:

      Will regular homeowners be able to get the new 4 percent rate?
      A woman on cnbc said that she has an excellent credit rating and that the bank did not want to give her a standart 30 year mortage but wanted her to get an ARM sub-prime.
      Now that does not make sense. The bank seems to just want more money. She needs to shop around.

    • 3 years ago
  • carmalite
    • 0
      carmalite  
    • barkway:

      You did the right thing by not getting an ARM!!!! For some reason they are STILL offerring those things and pushing them. A woman with a really good credit rating had to go bank shopping becaue some of them did not want to give her a conventional loan like yours.

      Some of them are crooks because they know that the possibility that the person can't pay it back will get them the property, and the commissions are so HIGH with an ARM as opposed to conventional.

      I have a conventional and they tried to get us into an aRM too. lol We knew better than to do that as you did.

    • 3 years ago
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