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FAA Releases Hudson Plane Audio

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The FAA released audio of the conversation between US Airways flight 1549, which crash-landed in the Hudson River Jan. 15, and New York air traffic control.

The plane was landed calmly and safely by pilot Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger.
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  • voteforahero
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • Thanks for your point of view. I do know that there are many responsible pilots and officers and I am not discrediting them in anyways. However there is a situation happening here in San Francisco that does not reflect the most ideal aviation behavior and rules. Before 2004-2005 you would not see any aircraft roaring on City landscape as it is now. We have so many problems with noise from traffic that goes until and over 2:00 AM when our City Bus stops running. After 3:00 AM Aircraft start roaring towards Oakland airport. Many times they glide through North Beach one after another using a very strange route taking a scenic view of the City and flying dangerous low pointing their turbines towards residential landscape.
      I had report these incidents but like I said it fell (literarily speaking); on deaf ears.

    • 3 years ago
  • DistantPlanet
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      DistantPlanet  
    • Stopnoise, correct me if I'm wrong, but based on your profile I believe you are opposed to noise pollution? That's a tricky position to take with airplanes. Aircraft operation is safer without noise abatement procedures We can get to higher altitudes more quickly and we can fly the route most free of obstacles. But since aircraft are so incredibly reliable, and we really do want to be good neighbors, we try our best to follow noise procedures whenever possible. This involves power reductions during climb (after all obstacles have been cleared), early turns to avoid populated areas, and the minimum altitudes over populated areas that you keep mentioning. These procedures do exist, and pilots are expected to abide by them. Cities have even fined airlines and even pilots for violating the procedures. I don't disagree with noise abatement procedures because I want to be a good neighbor too, but I assure you these procedures wouldn't have made this US Airways accident turn out any differently.

    • 3 years ago
  • DistantPlanet
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      DistantPlanet  
    • Maybe I didn't make myself clear earlier. This incident occurred on takeoff... as in the aircraft was not capable of being at a higher altitude at that moment. It was climbing as quickly as it could have been. It is not possible -- as in not physically possible--for the airplane to have been any higher that soon after departure. You seem to think the pilots climb to a couple hundred feet and level off there to see how long they can tempt fate. Airline climb procedures are constructed to give the aircraft the most options in the event of an emergency should one occur at any point during the takeoff roll, initial climb, acceleration segment, second segment climb, and so on... This aircraft was climbing through 3200ft when they hit the birds 30 to 45 seconds after takeoff. 3200ft in 45 seconds! Trust me they weren't taking their time. The simple fact of the matter is that if you suffer a dual engine failure shortly after leaving the airport, you don't have many options. Of course, I think there are some lessons to be learned here, but I think it has more to do with preventing bird strikes, and improving engine survivability after bird ingestion. I take offense to the idea that pilots and controllers would deliberately place aircraft at unsafe altitudes. I know of no controllers or pilots that would do so.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • If you care to go back to my previous comments I did report this issue before but as usual if fell on deaf ears.
      I would take this situation a little bit more seriously instead glamorizing it like the general media did. I have been filming and observing what pilots are doing today and it is not good. It is better for the FAA to take this incident as a warning and prevent more lives from being lost in the future by setting strict rules that are safer for people on the ground and in the air.

    • 3 years ago
  • DistantPlanet
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      DistantPlanet  
    • "Radar contact lost," sent a chill down my spine, even though it's not that uncommon a phrase to hear in other situations. In this case, you know why the radar can't see him.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • DistantPlanet:

      You have less chance to hit a bird at 5,000 or 8,000 feet than at 2,000 feet where usually they have more probability to be found flying. I see this event as a warning to FAA and Pilots that insist in putting their passengers and aircraft in danger by flying at lower altitudes on populated City landscapes airspace.

    • 3 years ago
  • projectionistalex
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • I am not disqualifying the Captain for saving all those lives. However no one is for a moment thinking that what happened could be his and the traffic controller's mistake to allow the plane to fly too low as to endanger his life and the passengers. To hit that pack of birds, his got to be flying too low. Wake up America!!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • tome_erau
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      tome_erau  
    • stopnoise:

      well unfortunately the hover plane hasn't quite made it past military use yet, but we'll get right on that for you. Until then planes are gonna have to go up on inclines and at some point have to pass the level that most birds fly at. So how about you wake up and quit being such an ignorant ass.

    • 3 years ago
  • DistantPlanet
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      DistantPlanet  
    • stopnoise:

      This happened shortly after takeoff, so of course the plane was climbing through lower altitudes on it's way to cruise, but flocks of birds do fly higher as well. This same thing could have happened at 5,000 or 10,000 ft, so I assure you his altitude had nothing to do with it except restrict the amount of time and gliding distance the crew had to work with after the engines failed. There were no mistakes made by anyone here, this was just a bad day at the office.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • stopnoise:

      Never mind if you are trying to justify the incident or the Captain's position. My question it is a valid one and should be taken in consideration if you observe some details. If you are a pilot and you know how your aircraft function, you know you can clime to a safe 5,000 position after taking off. The fact that some pilots decide to glide to a City landscape at 1,000 or 1,500 feet and make sure the people on the ground hear their engines whining through their living spaces it is a question that FAA needs to get on with it.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • stopnoise:

      By the way @tome_erau, Current its is not a place to offend or disrespect others but a Social place to expresses yourself and opinions following some educational rules of etiquette. Remember, you can always edit your words.

    • 3 years ago
  • DistantPlanet
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      DistantPlanet  
    • stopnoise:

      I mentioned this in the main thread already... the plane didn't have enough time to get to 5,000ft. the bird strike occurred 30 to 45 seconds after takeoff, and according to one of the media sources, the aircraft was at 3200 ft when it happened. that falls within the airplanes maximum climb performance given that it was fully loaded. They're not messing around at 1000ft, the airplanes are loud enough to rattle windows from much higher than that anyways. :)

    • 3 years ago
  • joekangiser
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      joekangiser  
    • Do air traffic control know that the plane has crashed in the Hudson in this audio clip? When the captain says, "We're not going to make it going into the Hudson." The traffic controller asks him to say again. Then communication is broken. The captain sounds so calm.

      Helluva landing is right!

    • 3 years ago
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