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Israel says its above the law for any war crime charges

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Statements made by Israel today demonstrate they have no concern for the law and don't have to abide by International laws. In fact, judging by their remarks, Israel is above the law.

"What international laws apply to this conflict?" asks Daniel Reisner, former head of the Israeli military's international law department. "The answer is: none. International law missed this one."
"If you think international law has anything to say about this situation, you are wrong," he said yesterday.
"I agree war crimes have been committed, but by Hamas," said Reisner.

Well, Hamas hasn't denied war crimes, in fact, they said they had to defend themselves somehow from Israels inhumane blockade of life supporting supplies.

Israel is a loose cannon and it needs to be defused. Israel needs a new plan since their current plan only consists of violence, murder and criminal conduct.

Here's the story----

Nearly three weeks have passed since Israel's deadly offensive in Gaza formally ended, but the battle over possible war crimes seems only to be hitting its stride.

As with almost all aspects of the long-running conflict pitting Israelis against Palestinians, the two sides in the scorching legalistic debate over who did what to whom in Gaza, and why, seem able to agree on almost nothing – not even on whether there are any laws that speak to the Israeli offensive at all.

"What international laws apply to this conflict?" asks Daniel Reisner, former head of the Israeli military's international law department. "The answer is: none. International law missed this one."

He maintains the hostilities between Israel and Hamas-ruled Gaza, which he calls an autonomous territory run by a "terrorist organization," is a unique kind of conflict that does not fit any of the models envisioned by those who drafted the world's existing body of war-crimes statutes.

"If you think international law has anything to say about this situation, you are wrong," he said yesterday.

That is one view. There are others.

"The formal position of Israel is: `We are unique,'" said Netta Amar-Shiff, an Israeli human rights lawyer who has a very different outlook on the legal issues surrounding her country's conduct in the three-week military operation in Gaza that began Dec. 27.

Amar-Shiff says there is indeed a raft of laws that apply to Israel's operations in Gaza, as well as to the conduct of Hamas, which has ruled the territory since June 2006.

Still, when it comes to the rights and wrongs of this conflict, Israel's critics and her defenders differ at every turn – or almost every turn.

Both Amar-Shiff and Reisner say they regard Hamas's long campaign of firing mainly jerry-built rockets at populated areas in Israel as a clear violation of international humanitarian laws that prohibit deliberate attacks on civilians.

Hamas's use of civilians as "human shields" for its military activities in Gaza also constitutes a war crime, said Amar-Shiff.

"I agree war crimes have been committed, but by Hamas," said Reisner.

Israel's critics say the recent military offensive was replete with probable war crimes committed by the Israel Defense Forces, mostly involving inadequate measures to keep civilians from harm.
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  • standingchair
  • Highr0ller
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    • n the very centre of almost every Israeli town one can a find a 1948 memorial statue displaying a very bizarre, almost abstract, pipe work. The plumbing feature is called Davidka and it is actually a 1948 Israeli mortar cannon. Interestingly enough, the Davidka was an extremely ineffective weapon. Its shells wouldn’t reach more than 300 meters and would cause very limited damage. Though the Davidika would cause just minimal harm, it produced a lot of noise. According to the Israeli official historical narrative, the Arabs i.e., Palestinians, simply ran away for their lives once they heard the Davidka from afar. According to the Israeli narrative, the Jews i.e., ‘new Israelis’ did a bit of fireworks and the ‘Arab cowards’ just ran off like idiots. In the Israeli official narrative there is no mention of the many orchestrated massacres conducted by the young IDF and the paramilitary units that preceded it. There is no mention also of the racist laws that stop Palestinians[1] from returning to their homes and lands.

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • B'nai Brith on notice for supporting Israeli war crimes
      Posted: 16 Feb
      Once again, B'nai Brith engages in a smear tactic and witch hunt to deflect attention from the war crimes committed by Israel in Gaza and to silence criticism of the political ideology of Zionism and the racist, apartheid practices of the state of Israel. The Canadian Arab...............

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      By claiming to be a human rights organization B'nai Brith should therefore express outrage against the inhumane actions carried out by the Israeli government in its assault on Gaza rather than indirectly supporting them by justifying their actions against the Palestinian civilian population. B'nai Brith should clearly state its position on the Gaza assault without smearing the condemnation efforts by Canadian organizations such as CAF...................

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • Many Israelis recoil at suggestions that their country, risen from the ashes of genocide and built on Jewish ideals, could be compared to a racist regime. Yet for years the bulk of South Africa's Jews not only failed to challenge the apartheid system but benefited and thrived under its protection, even if some of their number figured prominently in the liberation movements. In time, Israeli governments too set aside objections to a regime whose leaders had once been admirers of Adolf Hitler. Within three decades of its birth, Israel's self-proclaimed "purity of arms" - what it describes as the moral superiority of its soldiers - was secretly sacrificed as the fate of the Jewish state became so intertwined with South Africa that the Israeli security establishment came to believe the relationship saved the Jewish state.

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
  • Highr0ller
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    • What has recently happened in Gaza is the culmination of Israel’s forty year history of occupation, the end result of many “excesses and contradictions”, the end result of all its failed attempts to control the population at the same time that it acquires more and more land. The violent attacks “are…an effect of other significant changes that have taken place of the years,” and signal “Israel’s efforts to normalize the occupation have failed.” The Palestinians have become homo sacer, people outside the law, without recourse to law, who may be killed at any time.

      At first, the population was controlled by “sustaining some form of security, while currently it controls the occupied inhabitants by producing endemic security.” That in itself places a frightening prospect on what the future will look like for the Palestinians of both the West Bank and Gaza.

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      That primary contradiction has implications of course that extend beyond the borders of Israel into the political/corporate/military headquarters of the U.S. and into the physical boundaries and other occupied territories of Iraq, Afghanistan, and the threatened territories of Iran and Pakistan. Thus the Palestinian problem remains at the centre of Middle East policy in the U.S., as the U.S. fights for land and resources rationalized within the war on terror.

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      Synopsis
      This first complete history of Israel's occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip allows us to see beyond the smoke screen of politics in order to make sense of the dramatic changes that have developed on the ground over the past forty years. Looking at a wide range of topics, from control of water and electricity to health care and education as well as surveillance and torture, Neve Gordon's panoramic account reveals a fundamental shift from a politics of life--when, for instance, Israel helped Palestinians plant more than six-hundred thousand trees in Gaza and provided farmers with improved varieties of seeds--to a macabre politics characterized by an increasing number of deaths. Drawing attention to the interactions, excesses, and contradictions created by the forms of control used in the Occupied Territories, Gordon argues that the occupation's very structure, rather than the policy choices of the Israeli government or the actions of various Palestinian political factions, has led to this radical shift.

    • 3 years ago
  • rubycon40
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    • and the isrealis wonder why they are hated world wide ,,,,,,,,,doh,,,,,,,,,,as small as isreal is , it could quite easily be the instigator of the 3rd world war ,,,with the help of america ,,, as they can do nothing without the usa ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lets see who we think is the biggest terrorist ,,,compare the body count from 2000,,,,,isrealis vs palastinians,,,,,,,,,,,?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????OH,,IT SEEMS TO BE THE ISREALIS,,,,,no shock there,,,,,,,,,

    • 3 years ago
  • pacebp
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      pacebp  
    • "While much of the world is still pre-occupied with condemning Israel for its defensive war in Gaza in which 900 Palestinians were killed -- half of whom or more were terrorists -- tens of thousands of innocent people are being killed each month in the Congo in a war that started in 1994 with 800,000 people slaughtered in three months. Secretary General of the UN Ban Ki Moon has not flown to the Congo on a special mission, as he did to Gaza. Nor is the UN Human Rights Commission screaming about war crimes, as they are with Israel. Annie Lennox is not protesting in London, as she did against Israel. Nor are there any protests in Paris, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo or anywhere else."

      'The Worst Place'
      The Editors, The New Republic Published: Wednesday, December 31, 2008

      The Congo war is killing tens of thousands of people per month and is widely believed to be the world's gravest humanitarian emergency. For that reason alone, we in the West should be doing everything possible to end it. But, in case the people of eastern Congo needed an additional claim on our conscience, they happen to have one: The roots of the current war lie in the Rwandan genocide--perhaps the costliest error of inaction in the recent history of U.S. foreign policy. If we had acted differently in 1994, in other words, Congo might not be suffering now.
      That year, after slaughtering 800,000 Rwandan Tutsis over a period of three months, Hutu extremists were chased by their country's new Tutsi-led government into eastern Congo (then called Zaire), where they began launching attacks into Rwanda. In response, Rwanda surged over the border to secure a buffer zone--overthrowing Zaire's government (led by the infamous Mobutu Sese Seko) in the process. This event sucked a total of six nations into a pair of wars within Congo's borders (one from 1996 to 1997, the other from 1998 to 2003) that claimed millions of lives.
      Through it all, the Hutu génocidaires--who now call themselves the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Rwanda or FDLR--never disappeared from eastern Congo. And so, today, Rwanda's leaders are supporting a proxy army, the National Congress for the Defense of the People (CNDP), whose brutal leader Laurent Nkunda promises to protect the Tutsi diaspora in Rwanda's old buffer zone, even as he also threatens to topple the Congolese government. That government, now led by the son of the man who overthrew Mobutu, has hurled ineffective waves of its own troops at the CNDP while continuing to nurse the FDLR as a counterweight to both Nkunda and the Rwandans.
      The effect of this fighting on civilians has been horrific. When the armies move, they inevitably kill, loot, rape, and abduct--forcing hundreds of thousands to move to refugee camps where they die of malaria, diarrhea, and wounds from sexual assault. The Congolese army, the FDLR, and the CNDP have all adopted systematic rape as a strategic tool. As a Center for American Progress report put it, "eastern Congo right now is perhaps the worst place in the world to be a woman or a girl. The sexual violence and rape exists on a scale seen nowhere else in the world."

    • 3 years ago
  • Cavenia
  • Mymicz1
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    • First you have to convict someone of a crime WPTV. And I just don't think you have made your case very well. The Palestinians could have everything in the world, if they adopted a more peaceful strategy. Our bomb shelters and sirens do not make us bad people, they just make us able to protect ourselves. Still the injuries inflicted in the past eight years have been many. Not once have I ever said that I enjoy the killing of innocent people. However WPTV, you just did. And therefore, it is true, you are all Hamas. We are all innocent until "proven," guilty. Isn't this what you advocate for the detainees at Guantanamo? I do. As of yet, no trial has even begun much less been finished. I doubt you have ever seen a front loader in your life. I feel really sorry for the guy driving the bulldozer who I'm sure never meant to harm that poor girl. That's why it says "danger, heavy equipment," all around the damn thing. It has a reverse beeper and little orange signs. When you are in one, there is minimal visibility. Every year, Snowtech fixes dozens of garages. The guy who killed the grandmother in Tahoe Donner a few years back was devastated. He just scooped her up and the machine ate her. Do you really think some construction shmuck, and mind you, most construction workers in Israel, especially in the west bank, employed by Israel, are Palestinian, even the ones who bulldoze homes, do you really think this guy who makes 20$ an hour and has a family wanted that girl to die? To what end? To cause an international tradgedy? Get real.

    • 3 years ago
  • antipart
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      antipart  
    • If Israel had set up mobile hospitals to treat wounded civilians I would be more convinced that they seriously tried to avoid civilian casualties. Since they didn't, I am not too inclined to argue my sympathies for their position.

    • 3 years ago
  • PryzePhyter
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    • if America was a feeble military power and Mexico was a world super power that would more agreeable. There was a very good piece done by the BBC that compared the state of Israel to Ireland and the conflict between the Catholics and the Protestants. back to our analogy, If such were the case I would object to my nation throwing me as a citizen under the bus by attacking the occupying nation. besides the mexicans were there first. lol.

    • 3 years ago
  • TrevTar
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      TrevTar  
    • its like we've given them a policy of appeasement. And we know from history that appeasement only makes matters worse. Israel needs to back the fuck up!

    • 3 years ago
  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  
    • These people will always fight each other. We cannot stop it no matter how hard we try. The hate is too deep. Maybe in generations to come but ...even that is a stretch...

    • 3 years ago
  • macgarys1
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      macgarys1  
    • Ribrandt:

      Wrong analogy; the right one would be.. how would Americans feel if Mexicans where colonizing illegally in let's say Texas??? building entire colonies for Mexicans only.. and building a wall around it... and trapping texans without water resources and getting rid of their homes and their plantings.... How would America react.. that my friend is the real analogy

    • 3 years ago
  • Tankguy
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      Tankguy  
    • The state of Isreal has thus far acted with impunity. Hamas is also equally responsible in creating this situation because they did nothing to stop the rocket attacks which may or may not have been carried out by Hamas members. I get the feeling that Isreal acts as if the west will come to their rescue if the other islamic states like syria, jordan, egypt, and iran launch an attack on them in support of palestine. Isreal would get a rude awakening to find out that most of the world does not support their actions and there are very few pro-isreal countries.

    • 3 years ago
  • diabolical44
  • fun_size
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      fun_size  
    • OK how about I put this into nice and simple terms so that everyone on both sides can understand the situation. These are all FACTS therefore it does not matter which side of the debate you are on.

      Hamas is a terrorist organization. It uses despicable tactics against both Israeli and Palestinians alike. It is NOT a freedom fighting group as some would like to have you believe. Hamas has targeted Israeli civilians(including Kindergartens) and used Palestinians as human shields(although probably not on the level that some would have you believe).

      Israel has closed off the borders to Gaza preventing much needed humanitarian supplies and prevented foreign medical personnel from doing their jobs. Israel has blatantly attacked Palestinian civilians on multiple occasions many of which are well documented. Israel has used Palestinian civilians as human shields on multiple occasions. Israeli forces have destroyed much of Gaza's infrastructure making life hell for the millions who live there. Israel has used weapons such as white phosphorus in densely populated areas which is against international law.

      BOTH Israel and Hamas are guilty of war crimes.
      BOTH have been shown to use human shields.
      BOTH have blatantly targeted civilians.

      Therefore both groups deserve to be held accountable for their actions in an international court of law. If Israel goes unpunished then there is no justice in this world.

    • 3 years ago
  • guidedtotarget
  • NoGodsNoMasters
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      NoGodsNoMasters  
    • Israel commits war crimes and human rights violations and does it openly and without empathy and yet they still continue to cry when Hamas fires rockets across the border. Is the Israeli government really that stupid?

    • 3 years ago
  • rlbrandt
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    • NoGodsNoMasters:

      No, you don't get the facts right. Israel ONLY attacks in response to violence from Hamas. I was at the World Economic Forum in 2000 when the Palestinians and Israel announced a peace treaty. Arafat got up and, instead of expressing hopes for peace, spent the whole time condemning Israel. Then he rejected the treaty. Hamas is the aggresor. It refuses to accept any peace treaty. Israel desperately wants one. Stop firing rockets and come to the negotiating table, and I guarantee that Israel will cease fire. Hamas is always the one to violate any cease fire agreements. Recent news articles point out that Hamas is intercepting foreign aid for itself, which is why Israel has the blockades. Let's get a cease-fire and negotiations. Hamas won't do it because it wants war, and thrives on all the criticism of Israel. People also forget that on 9/11, Palestinians were dancing in the streets in celebration of the wonderful attack on innocent U.S. citizens.

    • 3 years ago
  • NoGodsNoMasters
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    • NoGodsNoMasters:

      Well first off the whole Palestinians dancing in the streets after 9/11......yeah, that didn't happen. Infact it became a huge black eye for Fox news when it was discovered that they had used 5 year old footage of Palestinians in the streets with captions saying that they were celebrating the attack. Hence, no one believes Fox to be "Fair and Balanced". As for me not getting my facts straight you have your history all screwed up. Israel invaded Palestinian lands and is considered by most nations to this day (And not just muslim nations) to be a force of occupation. And then when you have high officials in the Israeli Lukid Party saying that the Palestinian territory needs to be "erased from the map" (funny how much the Israeli government tends to hold the same tones as Iran and Hamas) then it's no wonder the people of Palestine are preparing themselves. Also, have we forgotten that Israel has built a wall around their land, restricted how much food and fuel go into the region and also that the Israeli military routinely goes into Palestine with bulldozers to demolish peoples home?

      By the way.....how many people and homes did Israel lose in this past conflict with Palestine? 5 people and no homes lost? Now compare that with the Israeli overkill tactic that took how many thousands of lives and hundreds of homes.

      Israel has every right to defend themselves but so does Palestine. Funny how the Israeli government seems to have adopted the ghetto style containment that the nazis once used to hold their people. Shame how the victims tend to later victimize.

    • 3 years ago
  • GoliathandDavid
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      GoliathandDavid  
    • NoGodsNoMasters:

      "Arafat got up and, instead of expressing hopes for peace, spent the whole time condemning Israel. Then he rejected the treaty. Hamas is the aggresor. It refuses to accept any peace treaty."

      Yes, cause Arafat faked his death and his allegiance to Fatah in order to convince a couple radical Hamas militiamen to start a conflict they had no chance of winning. My god, now I see what evil genius Israel's up against.

    • 3 years ago
  • rlbrandt
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      rlbrandt  
    • What Americans seem to forget is that Israel is fighting countries that want to drive it out of existence. Yes, it's response was too harsh, and I wish Israel would start appealing to Palestinians with aid in order to combat Hamas. But Israel was responding to missiles fired daily into Israel from Hamas, whose operatives hide in schools and hospitals. How would U.S. citizens want to respond if terrorists in Mexico were firing dozens of rockets a day into the U.S.? They would support an attack against the terrorists.

    • 3 years ago
  • keithponder
  • GoliathandDavid
  • macgarys1
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    • rlbrandt:

      Ribrandt:

      Wrong analogy; the right one would be.. how would Americans feel if Mexicans where colonizing illegally in let's say Texas??? building entire colonies for Mexicans only.. and building a wall around it... and trapping texans without water resources and getting rid of their homes and their plantings.... How would America react.. that my friend is the real analogy

    • 3 years ago
  • navider
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      navider  
    • Mymicz you are fighting a winless battle here.

      Enough of your mindless propaganda!

      Let the rest of us who live in reality talk.

    • 3 years ago
  • clayjj05
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    • navider:

      lol are you kidding me no one is talking about anything. The only thing you are doing is listening to the propogandist WPTV and highroller. Everyday its 10 post and 100 comments each about how cruel everyone is except hamas.

    • 3 years ago
  • Mymicz1
  • Gephoria
  • Mymicz1
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    • You guys have such a beautiful peaceful way of talking about your enemies. You are sooooo fucking fake. You preech peace, but all you do is hate. No wonder the Jews are suspicious of the likes of you. You guys are like the biggest race baiters I've ever seen. You try to play objective, but you have never ever looked at in a fair light. You even deny geneaology when it's convienient, but laud indigenousness when you think it's cool. LAME. You guys are the reason there will never be peace, because Jewish people can never "trust," the world will ever give a shit about them. Just like you apologists don't give a shit about anywhere else but Gaza, like Sudan, or Sri Lanka, or anywhere. "Throw the Jews down the well, so my people can be free, and we will have a big party," Thanks Ali G. If all the Jews were dead today the worst of the Muslims would come for the Christians next. Don't doubt it for a second that that is what you support when you support Hamas so blindly. If you supported moderate Islam, you could actually do something for peace. I support a moderate Israel, and I do actually do things for peace. And I am sorry for every baby or mother, but I am not sorry Hamas men had to be dealt with like anyone who threatens. The international community should come there and actually do something instead of judging everyone who is under pressure. If we had soldiers on the ground from the UN this would not have happenned. Lebanon was kept quiet this time by the UN, amazingly. Israel has accepted this presence, while Hamas has not.

    • 3 years ago
  • powerhungry
  • WorldPeaceTV
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      WorldPeaceTV  
    • Mymicz1:

      Mymicz1 you are a contradiction of yourself and you bathe yourself in self glory of being a peace activist. You have a justification for all violence including violence against innocent children and people as well as for Rachel Corey who was seen by the murdering IDF as he rolled over her with his bulldozer. Not only are you poisoned by the Israeli propaganda machine, you create propaganda for them. You constantly tell us REAL peace activists we are aligned with Hamas and that is simply not true. Its a lie propagated by the Israeli propaganda machine that you so endear to yourself.

      You backing up the criminal actions of Israel are equally guilty of genocide and a slew of other crimes committed by the Israeli government.

      I'm against the death sentence, but maybe they should consider hanging the bastards in public for their crimes against humanity

    • 3 years ago
  • navider
  • Dave_Rabbitt
  • CalgarC
  • opit
  • banditalamode
  • Incredulous
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    • Mymicz1--
      "Israel has never, "allowed," anyone to be assaulted"

      You are either ridiculously out of touch, or you can't read.

      Let's not forget Rachel Corrie

    • 3 years ago
  • Mymicz1
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    • Incredulous:

      Yes Rachel Corrie. Every other year someone in Truckee,CA dies because they get in front of one of those loaders and the operator can't see them. In snowy conditions it's understandable. But sometimes it's actually sunny, and someone's granny walks right into the loader. I am sorry for her. But I hardly think it's smart to get in front of a moving loader. Visibility is really low.

    • 3 years ago
  • Robroy1
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      Robroy1  
    • Ishahell is out of control and is getting more terroristic daily. Israhell should be dealt with. Aparthied and Genocide are punishable crimes and Israhell is praticing both. It is time for the laws of the world to put the terrorists and criminals in prison where they belong.

    • 3 years ago
  • Mymicz1
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      Mymicz1 [removed]  
    • Israel has never, "allowed," anyone to be assaulted. They have always arrested settlers who commit crimes if they can catch them. They even pulled thousands out of their homes in Gaza to attempt to make peace. You are, as always, painfully biased. Israel does not have to supply Hamas with electricity. And Hamas should spend more time worrying how to take care of their own infrastructure than bombing kindergardens in Sderot. Everything Israel has done to be self sustaining, Hamas wants a piece of. Well, frankly, those who concentrate on hatred will eat their hatred and nothing else. Unless they steal it from the UN.

    • 3 years ago
  • Ihatethemall
  • Solar_Wind
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      Solar_Wind  
    • We will find out who is benefitting from wars and revolutions in our world...

      We realize that there are criminals in our world who don't get caught and have successfully manipulated the world in their favor.

      We can educate everyone on the dangers we are facing in this world and live together in harmony.

      I want world peace just as much as the next person and we will find a way so that everyone can be held accountable for their actions, in other words a checks and balances for each person on the face of the earth and we will not let the control of such fall under any elected representatives.

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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      Highr0ller [removed]  
    • In 1987, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution that all member states should combat ‘terrorism wherever and by whomever it is committed’. Only two states voted against it: the United States and Israel. At the time, this went unreported.
      In 1988 Saddam Hussein attacked the Kurdish village of Halabja with nerve gas, killing five thousand people, the British and American governments did their best to discourage coverage of the atrocity; the Americans went as far as blaming it on Iran. However in 1991, when Saddam displeased his sponsors in Washington and London by attacking another of their clients, Kuwait, and was now an official enemy, the plight of Iraqi Kurds suddenly became a great charitable cause in the West. Headlines and TV footage documented made worthy victims of them.
      The change of status did not apply to the Kurds across the border in Turkey, even though they are part of the same disposed nation and were being slaughtered in far greater numbers by the Turkish military. The Ankara regime is a member of NATO and beneficiary of Anglo-American, World Bank and IMF ‘aid’.
      The current occupation of Iraq is seen from the same parallel world. When the BBC’s Director of News, Helen Boaden, was asked in January 2006 to explain how one of her ‘embedded’ reporters in Iraq could possibly describe the aim of the Anglo-American invasion as ‘bringing democracy and human rights’ to Iraq, she replied with sheaves of quotations from Tony Blair that this was indeed his aim, as if his now notorious mendacity and the truth were compatible. No other evidence was required.

      The nation's immediate problem is that while the common man fights America's wars, the intellectual elite sets its agenda. Today, whether the West lives or dies is in the hands of its new power elite: those who set the terms of public debate, who manipulate the symbols, who decide whether nations or leaders will be depicted on 100 million television sets as 'good' or 'bad.' This power elite sets the limits of the possible for Presidents and Congress. It molds the impressions that move the nation, or that mire it.
      --from "The Real War" (1980) by President Richard Nixon
      While there are conspiracies going on in the world today, the pursuit of world government now is no longer conspiratorial in the sense of being hidden or secret. Rather, it's what socialist author H.G. Wells called "The Open Conspiracy," as prominent people such as Bill Clinton have openly written in support of world government. It will probably be a World Socialist Government, synthesizing western capitalism and eastern communism. In fact, Joseph Stalin in a speech at Sverdlov University in April 1924 pronounced that "the amalgamation and collaboration of nations within a single world system of economy... constitutes the material basis for the victory of Socialism." And regarding what world government will ultimately mean, it will be authoritarian and repressive, for as Lord Acton wrote: "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • The Media on the Middle East: Double standards, and authorised censorship by omission.

      In his epic acceptance of the 2005 Nobel Prize in Literature, Harold Pinter referred to ‘a vast tapestry of lies, upon which we feed.’ He asked why ‘the systematic brutality, the widespread atrocities, the ruthless suppression of independent thought’ of Stalinist Russia was well known in the West while American imperial crimes were merely ‘superficially recorded, let alone documented, let alone acknowledged.’ He was referring to the great silence, unbroken by the incessant din of the media age.
      Across the world, the extinction and suffering of countless human beings could be attributed to rampant America. ‘But you wouldn’t know it’, said Pinter. ‘It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it never happened. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest. To its shame the BBC ignored Pinter’s warning, and could not make room for the nation’s greatest living dramatist, so honoured, to tell the truth. For the BBC it never happened.
      Whole societies are described by their relationship with ‘us’: Their usefulness to ‘our interests’ and their degree of compliance with (or hostility to us) our authority. Above all, they are not ‘us’. By the same rule a crime is only a crime if the perpetrators are ‘them.’ Often violent extinction causes not a ripple in the man-made phenomenon known as the ‘mainstream,’ the main source of what we call news.

      . The overthrow of the popular Prime Minister, Dr. Mossadeq, in Iran in 1953 by coup d’état, was planned by the British and implemented by the CIA. Afterwards they reinstalled the country’s exiled monarch, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who remained in power for the next 25 years until he was ousted by revolution in 1979. The declassification of documents, and the unanticipated consequences of intervention, lays bare a vital piece of history that was suppressed.
      The ouster of the Shah was initially welcomed, but the population soon learnt that a new brand of totalitarianism was taking over. The Islamic revolution of 1979 introduced a religious state in Iran, changing life drastically. There followed an eight year war with Iraq .....

    • 3 years ago
  • Highr0ller
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    • Now tell me HOW CAN BOTH SIDES BE guilty? Hamas have only a few AK47s and a few crude rockets.....and the death toll in Israel from rockets is TWO.

      Now Israel has some serious weaponery paid for by the American taxpayers,. The figures at the end of the war says it all .............................................the death of well over a thousand Palestinians and 13 Israelis. Sorry I'm rushing and have not got my figures to hand. I have a piece I am writing and I'll post it here.....it is a 'work in progress' I have on but it is relevant. I'll post it below.

    • 3 years ago
  • nkeg87
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    • Highr0ller:

      I say they are both guilty because they both killed people. The extent might be different, but that is something that we can all agree on. Hamas killed Israelis too.

    • 3 years ago
  • escarondito
  • rattles13f
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    • Highr0ller:

      you sir, are exactly what the fuck is wrong with this world. now im gonna go out on a limb and say you are either in college, or jst got done with it, because you act like you know shit, but clearly you dont. if you honestly cant see the difference between israels military crackdown, and terrorist attacks on civilians, then congratulations on perpetuating the steryotype that american colleges are a breeding grounds for stupidity. you clearly have no idea what hamas has been up to littlerally for the past 40 years because if you did, israels most recent response in gaza would not surprise you in the least bit, but you heard about some country bombing a territory, and a few civilians got killed, so you jumped the gun like a true moron and decided that the palestinians were innocent victims here, and in doing so you have attempted to negate the acts of terrorism commited by hamas. go spend some time in the real world, and then try to talk politics with the big boys. in the meantime, just go sit in your little corner with your thumb up your ass like you've been doing.

    • 3 years ago
  • PryzePhyter
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    • Highr0ller:

      a few rockets? you must be referring to the few rockets left after the thousands that were fired. I guess what you are saying is that Hamas does not have the firepower Israel does. well if you have a world super power being attacked by rockets on a daily basis from a nation with far inferior military power, you have to expect a military reaction along the lines of Israel's response. Why should diplomacy does extend to a terrorist organization that uses guerrilla type tactics to attack a superior nation, who fully knows and understands what said superior nation is capable of and willing to do to protect it's citizens. Being the inferior nation is that really the best way to ensure the well being of your citizens? How should any nation with the military might supposed to respond to those attacks?

      besides, Hamas kept aid from reaching it's own people.

    • 3 years ago
  • WorldPeaceTV
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    • Violence begets violence. Israel has unleashed a Pandora's box containing factions throughout the world that will unleash more violence on the world. Israel has no consideration in their actions, actions that were deliberately calculated by the Israeli Government to precipitate this violence before the bombing and during the cease fire.

      1. Closing the borders

      2. Not allowing medical supplies through

      3. Not allowing food through

      4. Not allowing humanitarian aid through

      5. Cutting off electricity

      6. Cutting off water supplies

      7. Allowed illegal Jewish settlers to assault innocent Palestinians

      8. not allowing Humanitarian organizations or Journalists in to SEE what Israel did and does!

      All the above before the bombing and during the cease fire. People were starving, people were in need of medical supplies, babies were in need of milk, doctors in need of electricity to conduct surgeries. Sewage overflowing into the streets and the Mediterranean because the sewage processing plant cannot operate without electricity, causing a potential disease outbreak which still threatens Gaza.

      What if someone locked you in a room with no food, no lights, no water and no medications or first aid supplies?

      What would YOU do?

    • 3 years ago
  • WorldPeaceTV
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    • The blockade causes much needed life sustaining supplies from being shipped in. One of the reasons for the tunnels besides illegal weapons..but, they wouldn't need the weapons if Israel did not block all this...International laws say its "an act of war to put any city, country in siege"

      And yes, baby food was hardly around as pictured here

    • 3 years ago
  • WorldPeaceTV
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    • and lets not forget the other methods Israel uses to eliminate the population of Palestinians...just bulldoze innocent peoples houses and replace them with illegal jewish settlers..oh, and kill a few Palestinians while they are at it

    • 3 years ago
  • Mymicz1
  • WorldPeaceTV
  • escarondito
  • banditalamode
  • nkeg87
  • WorldPeaceTV
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      WorldPeaceTV  
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    • here's their latest method...just bomb them with weapons that will maim, contaminate, and destroy the children and women so their population will flounder and fall. especially the future of these people

    • 3 years ago
  • Bren589
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    • WorldPeaceTV:

      they will pay for all they have done . if its not done in a court room , one day WPTV they will have to answer for the murders they have commited . they will stand and they will pay . Peace

    • 3 years ago
  • WorldPeaceTV
  • Mymicz1
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    • WorldPeaceTV:

      Buy desalinization, not Grad, Israel currently has one of the only desalinization plants in the Middle East. If Gaza built one, they would be fine, intead they spend money on Iranian arms shipments. You need to choose, is Hamas an elected government and Gaza an independant nation of their own or is Israel responsible for taking care of people who want them dead? Hamas' failure to adress the concerns and lives of their contituents in liy of making permanent war creates a reason for Israel not to cooperate with anything. Also, why aren't you blaming Egypt for not sending electricity and water. Egypt is not under attack, actually they are, jus none of you guys care what happens to tourists at Sinai.

    • 3 years ago
  • WorldPeaceTV
  • Mymicz1
  • rattles13f
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      rattles13f  
    • WorldPeaceTV:

      i swear to god, if i have to hear one more of those fucking creatons complain about how isreal is so terrible to the palestinians, or any of that other one sided, propaganda bullshit, that you fuckers insist is fact, im going to lose my god damned mind. the terrorists that make up hamas have on several occasions stated that it is their goal to see all israelis drivin into the sea. now when you are faced with an enemy that determined, who has consistantly violated every cease fire and peace treaty agreement they have ever entered into, i dont feel that you should be brought up even on the suspicions of war crimes. the only criminals here are the terrorists shooting rockets into heavily populated areas, the palestinians can fuck off, if anything israel needs to be let off the leash that america has put them on.

    • 3 years ago
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