$3.9 billion in Katrina recovery funds still unspent
source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-02-08-hurricane-aid_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
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The scale of that job is enormous. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has promised $5.8 billion to repair everything from flooded libraries and schools to sewer systems and roads that were ruined when Hurricanes Katrina and Rita obliterated huge sections of coastal Louisiana and Mississippi in 2005.
This is shameful.
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MissG
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I recently moved to New Orleans and was here for the Hurricane Gustav mandatory evacuation. While it was great to see that local infrastructure had a plan in place to help those in need find safe, "free" ways to evac from the city, the news media was a flurry dissecting all of the wrongs that still need to be righted to keep this place alive in the face of another big one.
It is now carnival season here and this city offers so much jubilation, so much history that it is really a shame to see social politics at play in light of human suffering. Losing New Orleans will be a huge detriment to the U.S. This city cannot weather another Katrina. Many have already given up.
- 3 years ago
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MissG
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Kepano
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Bet all of you Texas will not share the same fate as did the people of Louisiana have.
- 3 years ago
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Kepano
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kennymotown
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It took 8 fucking years for the repugnants to fuck things up this big, give President Obama a little more than 19 days to straighten things out dumb shit.
- 3 years ago
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kennymotown
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nursediesel
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You know, I have friends that lost alot in Katrina but you don't hear much about them cause they didn't ask for government to save them they just cleaned up, put as much back together as they could and got their insurance or what ever .. free fons from verizon for awhile and went on with life... oh, but they're from Gulfport/Buloxi Miss. not Louisiana...And by the way these are not people of means, just poor workin' folks....
- 3 years ago
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nursediesel
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MissG
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nursediesel:
Well, given that there were very limited public recovery campaigns and a general stagnation of information on how to best continue with life post-Katrina, I don't find that hard to believe.
But, in the face of government failure - at the local and federal levels - there is NOTHING wrong with holding your system accountable. After all, we live in a democracy.
- 3 years ago
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MissG
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monimoni
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are they waiting for another hurricane or something? FEMA- what a joke.
- 3 years ago
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monimoni
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lindslee
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monimoni:
Or are the citizens waiting for another hurricane?
So you have two choices here, right... ok, let's just say, for argument sake, that FEMA really wants that place to rot in hell. If you had your family there would you sit there and wait or would you look for a better situation elsewhere? I'm fairly certain that I would NOT keep my family there. Even if it's "mostly safe" and you plan to evacuate for hurricanes, if people are so disgruntled about how it's being handled, why don't they move? Hate the lack of infrastructure? MOVE! No one is making you stay there.
I've been considering this idea of loyalty for a while. I've heard and read a number of people stating, "this is my home, I can't just leave it behind". People frequently leave their homes behind to seek out better circumstances (new job, education, to be closer to family, etc). Why the sudden loyalty to a city? (honest question there if someone wants to share their experience)
Someone posted to me yesterday, but I don't see it now (I only saw the post on my phone) about me being heartless or something along those lines. That I didn't care about her house, her home... On a case by case basis, yes, I care that people were part of a natural disaster. But when you're dealing with sorting out this big of a space, this much money, I just don't think you can look at it on an individual level.
She asked if I thought San Fran or LA shouldn't be rebuilt after the next "big one". What's sorta funny in this argument is that I bet she thinks I don't have experience with that. I'm from California. All of my family lives in California. None of them live in LA or along the San Andreas, but they live in Northern California (near Oregon, on the coast) where earthquakes are frequent. I don't think that the federal government should be responsible for rebuilding cities after a natural disaster. OR... if the federal government provides the actual money (meaning WE ALL provide the actual money) then the actual repairs should be handled at the state level. I honestly don't know if that's how it's set up right now or not... I didn't take the time to research that before I started posting here.
So, to individual familes, yes, of course I feel for your loss... But as a whole, I think the situation before, during and after Katrina was disastrous and that people need to stop complaining and start acting. If you LOVE that city so much, maybe YOU should so something to make it better instead of waiting for someone else to fix it. Pride of ownership!
- 3 years ago
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lindslee
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PoliticalGeek
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Unbe-FUCKING-leivable!
- 3 years ago
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PoliticalGeek
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remanns
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Suck it up "Maeveeo"----get a grip. "The Man" sticks it up the ass of folks all over. But your point is not lost. (Not enough bucks are "owed" to the "folks" o' N Orleans) The interests of this empire are in the BUSINESS concerns involved in the Big Easy.
- 3 years ago
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remanns
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nursediesel
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Problem might be: millions have been given to Louisiana to clean up her act and make the flood walls less penatrateble years ago and the money went into many pockets untracable... .. if the money would have been used for CCC to do it right then we would't be where we are on this subject today, maybe too many hoops to jump thru' to prevent the useless spending from being repeated???
- 3 years ago
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nursediesel
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Maeveeo
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Thats How Much We Love Our Nation ! We Suck Big Time ....Thats what You Get 4 Being In A Mostly Black State ....I mean This Would Not Happen To LA Or NYC !
- 3 years ago
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Maeveeo
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lindslee
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Maeveeo:
Before you say something ridiculous why don't you spend 1 minute looking something up to be sure you know what you're talking about. Hint: Google Los Angeles demographics THEN Google Louisiana demographcis. Unless you're considering .4% a significant difference there are nearly as many hispanics in Los Angeles as there are white people. And, white people make up less than half of the population vs. other races. Not only that, but Louisiana is not a "mostly black state"...
What you will find is this: 46.9% White American, 46.5% of the population was Hispanic or Latino (of any race), 11.2% African American, 10.5% Asian American, 0.8% Native American, 0.2% Pacific Islander, 25.7% from other races, and 5.2% from two or more races.
Demographics of Louisiana: 64.6% White American, Black or African American 32.8%, American Indian .6%, Asian 1.2%.
JFC I hate it when people just throw shit out there without knowing and without looking something up.
- 3 years ago
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lindslee
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lindslee
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Maeveeo:
Oh, and the area where the Trade Centers were isn't done yet and that happened well before Katrina. They don't think the trade center area will be rebuilt before 2011! Ugh stupid white people! *rollseyes*
- 3 years ago
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lindslee
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MissG
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Maeveeo:
Lindslee. The demographics from the affected areas in Louisiana are comprised of a very different racial composition than the rest of the state. I am going to give Maeveeo the benefit of the doubt that he/she meant city (especially since he/she was comparing to L.A. or NYC).
Before Katrina, according to U.S. census data, the city of New Orleans was two thirds black.
Makes a difference.
- 3 years ago
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MissG
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lindslee
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Maeveeo:
And, I certainly considered the oddity of their reply, since they compared two cities to a state. But, if someone posts something they should be sure they are posting something intelligent or their post is immediatley disregarded by a good portion of this audience.
I apologize for straying from the topic, but reading these posts leaves me very inclined to put my children in private schools (once we have them). Our public education system is clearly failing.
- 3 years ago
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lindslee
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banditalamode
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And we're going to allow these same people to allocate 800+ billion why? After not being able to account for the 700+ billion they gave to the banks a few months ago...
The treasury is being robbed. If we spent one iota of this on education people might actually notice it.
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banditalamode
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lindslee
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banditalamode:
WORD! I completely agree!
- 3 years ago
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lindslee
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alivein85
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Why does this not surprise me...
- 3 years ago
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alivein85
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DouginLA
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FEMA or any government agency is far from efficient, but most of this blame should be placed on LA and NO officials. They keep trying to spend this money on non-infrastructure repairs and FEMA keeps vetoing the expenditures. I live in this part of the world and it infuriates me every time I hear the Feds catching hell. If the state and local crooks would do what is right NO would be back to its normal smelly glory. I love the line from the story about"dilapadated buildings and poor roads and sewers." Like NO did not have those before Katrina. Hell I am still mad that thousands of people are still living in free hotel rooms 3.5 years after the storm.
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DouginLA
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lindslee
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Ya, come on! Spend taxpayer money to rebuild a city that's below sea level!!! Maybe we can do it all over again next year. FUN!
What a waste... Find something to spend money on that isn't going to blow away and be drowned again, please.
As former President Bush said, "Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice shame on...me?". Ugh.
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lindslee
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asdfghjkl03
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lindslee:
Lindslee: As a New Orleanian, I'd like to take this opportunity to both thank you for suggesting my home is not worth saving, and to ask you to think before posting such drivel.
According to your logic that we shouldn't rebuild a place that's in danger of being damaged again, then I suppose we shouldn't rebuild Los Angeles or San Francisco after the next big earthquake. Or perhaps we shouldn't rebuild schools and hospitals that are burned down by wildfires. Because according to your logic, it's their own fault for living there.
It's not our fault that the levees built around New Orleans were built on the cheap by the Army Corps.
But how dare you suggest the people who live here should somehow be punished for this fact.
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asdfghjkl03
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CharlieG
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Is this the 21st century? let's act like it is ...
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CharlieG
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remanns
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Oh come on! Rebuild the damn swamp city in this decade! We need to be spending money on public works in a BIG WAY! So do it already. Hey, thats a stimulus,...build something. With luck it wont sink. Perhaps real flood prevention works would make some sense as an afterthought. What the hell.
Big public works employ people and actually leave things of use "in their wake",...sort of like inverse hurricanes. Besides, it would be fun just to spite Nnnn-ew York Nnnn-ew York; the great stuttering town, hell they cant even put up a tower and fill a pit. - 3 years ago
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remanns
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Cashmere
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What are they waiting for? Spend 800 billion on some, albeit necessary but random things, but we can't fix something that has been funded for 3 years? This is a bad omen for our system... (no need to comment that you already knew this for 1,111,010,101 years, we know you are really smart and knew all of this.)
- 3 years ago
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Cashmere
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VTJimO
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Let's just cut the chase and give it right to Wall Street! Oh wait, it's been 19 days since Obama took over. Things are suppose to be differnt now......................
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VTJimO
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bansheewail
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What are they doing up there in DC?? Are they waiting for another killer storm to come along and finish the job?? Dammit!!! This makes me FURIOUS!! They are Americans. I think we should put the FEMA headquarters in that huge empty space that used to be the Lower Ninth Ward. Then, let's see what happens. Obama needs to appoint a homeless black woman from treme' to head up FEMA. Then some shit would start getting done for sure.
FEMA the Banshee's wail may be heard over your house one day. Don't reach out to your neighbor nor your leaders. You are on your own. Think about that when you tuck your kids in tonight. Think about that when your head hits the pillow, too.
- 3 years ago
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bansheewail
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islek
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Another reminder of how efficiently this whole disaster was managed. NOT.
Ugh, what a sad mess.
- 3 years ago
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islek
