The hidden link between factory farms and human illness.

i really wish PeTA would stick to the issues... nobody likes inane propaganda.

Be sure to check out both the intro and follow up videos. I find the brilliance is that they appeal both to people's conscious and subconscious aspirations and desires as well as concerns for health and ethics.

100% agree. This is something mik661 doesn't understand. It's not about forcing an ideal down someones throat but educating the world about the bad things that are happening in an effort to change it for the better. Everyone is their own person and each individual is going to have to start caring or nothing's going to get done.

this information is available if you seek out alternative and independent news sources. corporate news, on the other hand, kills stories like this. watch the film The Corporation. two ex-fox news correspondents talk about how fox refused to run their story lest they upset the corporate sponsors.

are you serious? get on the goddamn google.

my vegan diet uses much less agricultural resources (not to mention petroleum and water) than your animal protein diet. if everyone adopted a vegan diet, nobody would have to starve.

and your farcical model of 'freeing all the animals' would never happen. we'd stop breeding them as the demand tapered out.

you've never given a moment's though to this, have you...

Numinant, that comment was mostly aimed at animilo libero who fancies himself a warrior of animal rights and will tell you that animals life is worth more than yours. Secondly, animal exploitation goes way beyond what you eat most people have no idea the extent of animal products used in their lives try some google yourself. Thirdly while you may feed your self in an vegan manner in a low resource way thats not feeding 5 billion people across the world who cant go buy their non animal protein source or clothing in the local supermarket. Fourthly do you only worry about farm animals? Once you "taper off" the breeding of farm animals and they all die off then what? or should we let a few of them happily breed? Its my opinion that you are the one who is completely clueless as to what the full extent of what your asking really means and have no idea whatsoever what its true affects would be.

Your a victim of your own propoganda animilo. I am not an animal but if you consider yourself one good for you I wonder how tasty you would be. Probably taste like crap considering how apetizing most meat substitutes and vegan food is to me. You latch onto a issue such as factory farms and corporate malfeasance and start spouting off about animal rights, vegan this and vegetarian that. Free our brothers the animals. How about if you dont want to eat animals or abuse them, then go knock yourself out by not doing it. If you want to rail against factory farms then power to you. DONT TELL ME HOW TO LIVE. When I see you living in a teepee out on the range living off of roots and berries and a handful of maize that you raised then I will be impressed. Just that fact that you own a computer and have time and the capability to post on here tells me that you are a lot more a part of the grid then you like to think of yourself. I spent the first 18 years of my life on a subsidence farm where over 3/4's of the food I ate came from what my Father and I personally grew, raised or shot. We were lucky we had electricity and running water. The only eating out I did was federal school lunch. Dont lecture me about the economics of food production because unlike most people who post on here I PERSONALLY experienced whats it really like to live off what you make with your own hands. At least my family had land and my Father had the knowledge to live off it and pass it to me. What about just in America alone the millions living below poverty in some dirtly little apartment in the hood? And just how do you propose they are going to come up with this clean living veggie/vegan diet? Grow carrots in a bath tub? A garden in a empty lot? You are all good at these grand Ideas and causes and all good at preaching about how people should be doing this and doing that. But, when it comes down to the actual nuts and bolts, the actual hard work of working out in detail how these things are supposed to come about for not just you and your precious group of self righteous earth warriors, you are silent. You have no answer. You provide no leadership. Then we start to hear the excuses. Its the goverment. Its big corporations. Its whitey holding you down. You are in the midst of a revolution against the new world order. The best you can come up with is some lame appeal that each and every person would just do their part it would all happen magically. There is nothing wrong with having a dream or being a dreamer. Just dont shove your dream down my throat.

mik661 it is very easy to put somebody's dream down, easy to point the finger, easy to get all realistic about any given situation.
Hard is to dream, imagine, think of a better world.
I believe, in our hearts, most of us want that.
Some people here at Current take it very seriously as they believe this to be a platform for their activism. I am one of them, at least I try.
You can reach more people here spending ten minutes of your time than walking around town for a full day passing out fliers. You can raise more awareness just by sitting at your desk.
How astonishing is that?

These are your words:
"The treatment that animals deserve? I cant believe that you dedicate your life trying to make people treat animals the same as they would other people."

You started it, all you had to do was expressing your opinion without trying to ridiculize somebody's point of view and intentions. You are the one that clearly attempted to shove your mentality down my throat.

I think you might be more emotionally tied to meat than the actual need. It probably recalls memories of your father. You could be this defensive and argumentative so just to stand by your father side.

I think you feel guilty to have and be eating meat.

You are resigned to this reality and people like you talk just like this: "this is the way it is, we all eat meat, corporations make huge profit out of it, they control the game and there is nothing we can do about it." You bore and depress me with your dismal sense for life. I despise you.

@look - this isn't my first go around with animilo and I dont think I am crushing his dreams. He is quite insistent and obnoxious about how right and noble he is and not shy about telling everyone else how they should be living their life.

@animilo - You are such a funny, small minded, petty person. Of course I know that as a biological definition we are are all animals. My point is that you choose to elevate an animal to the equivalent of a human life and I dont. I dont think you even care about any of the issues in this post but are just here to push your animal rights views and attempting to ride these issues coat tails.

are you leading up to a point, or was that it?

Its interesting to see how people can take a any opportunity to decide the nature of a persons heart based on an innocent debate. You've missed the point I was trying to make completely and turned me into an animal mutilating slave owner. Not everyone wants to go veggie and there are plenty of farmers all over the world who raised their own animals for the consumption of their family who take very good care of the creatures in their charge. The point I'm trying to make is that something does need to change, but its in the ethics of food production not a personal choice about eating meat or not. And further more, you don't even know a thing about me and my food choices.

Yes, it is rather sad to think about the plight of these poor, domesticated animals who we have bred all the intelligence and spirit out of. And it also makes you think that perhaps, by eating them, we are taking the spirit out of ourselves. And then I question whether it is right to have a dog or a cat; though we love them, wouldn't they have been better off without us? Too many philosophical contradictions in my brain.

I usually don't eat that much meat, and I never eat any from the store. It is always an animal that I have met, and usually one that I have seen die, or one that my redneck family has hunted and given to me. I don't think people can, in good conscience, eat meat, without having at least watched animals be slaughtered, if not taking part in it themselves, so they know what has been sacrificed for their eating pleasure. I think most meat-eaters wouldn't be able to stomach even a relatively humane death, never mind the torture that goes on in corporate facilities.

I definitely understand where you guys are coming from. I feel the same way about my pets which is why I started letting my cats come in and out as they please. The problem with keeping our pets more free is the fear of them getting hurt by cars or other animals/sickness. So essentially are we doing the right thing? Argh! I wish I knew. At the same time I love the company of my pets. But that in itself is selfish.

As for farms, people have become too greedy and gluttonous with meat. If everyone started a garden they could eat from, how much healthier and happier could the world be?

The treatment that animals deserve? I cant believe that you dedicate your life trying to make people treat animals the same as they would other people.

it's the golden rule, isn't it? it's not about treating animals like humans, it's about acknowledging and respecting their interests. it's about not tearing their testicles off, tearing their tails off, keeping them in pens above a lagoon of their own shit, injecting them with hormones and antibiotics, branding them, feeding them shit (literally to some extent), blasting them in the head with an air gun to stun them (often several times, what with the thrashing, and often improperly to keep efficient), slitting their throats, disemboweling them, skinning them (sometimes alive), and consuming their flesh as if it never even belonged to a sentient being, meanwhile ignoring the environmental and human devastation. treating animals with respect is mutually inclusive with treating humanity with respect, not to mention yourself.

mik661. Do you have anything important to say? Not only should we care for and respect ALL life on earth but this article is also about the negative impact these farms have on HUMAN health as well. So please try reading the article and coming up with a more intelligent response to it.

I would love to see some one who truly lives a life that does not in some way utlize animal products.

99 percent will have to suffice for industrialized nations, for now, but here you:

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/life/2005/01/07/stories/2005010700080200.htm

i'd like to see someone who truly lives a life free of human exploitation.