Death by 40,001 magic brownies
source: http://media.www.stoutonia.com/media/storage/paper1199/news/2009/02/19/Opinion/Death.By.4000...
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remanns
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This cult is still "current",...that should be changed. Added to current cult.
- 2 years ago
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remanns
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remanns
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Cult of Prohibition. A futile and destructive cult.
- 2 years ago
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remanns
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davenuk
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Driving stoned just gives them an excuse to keep it illegal
- 3 years ago
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davenuk
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JETaylor
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I will gladly wait 2 hours before driving if it was legal
- 3 years ago
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JETaylor
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davenuk
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Sorry guys, anyone who smokes and drives is a Selfish a hole who puts themseves before others.
Kill yourself doing anything you like but risking others lives is not cool. Just cos you haven't done it yet doesn't mean you wont, 99% of the the time you get away with it, I wouldn't want to be you for the 1%.
I've heard the exact same arguments from people who drive drunk. - 3 years ago
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davenuk
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DeliaTheArtist
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davenuk:
But getting drunk and high are different. As I said, how many people drive while under the influence of prescription medications? We don't seem to have a problem with that.
- 3 years ago
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DeliaTheArtist
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chuygarsia2
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davenuk:
you deserve to die
- 3 years ago
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chuygarsia2
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resolute
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I am so sick of all the rants about legalizing marijuana.
Anybody that does marijuana knows it alters your senses.
Quit making excuses. Go live where it is legal and quit ranting.
- 3 years ago
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resolute
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DeliaTheArtist
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resolute:
What is wrong with altering your senses? A lot of things do that!
You are proposing a "love it or leave it" mentality? You don't think people should work to make the place they live better?
- 3 years ago
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DeliaTheArtist
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ras_menelik
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resolute:
A rant (also called harangue or declamation) is a monologue which does not present a well-researched and calm argument; rather, it is typically an attack on an idea, a person or an institution, and very often lacks proven claims. Sometimes rants are used not to attack something, but to defend an individual, idea or organization. Rants in this form generally occur after the subject has been attacked by another individual or group.
Rants are often used in situations requiring monologue. Comedians such as Dennis Miller, Lewis Black, Adam Carolla and Rick Mercer use rants as a way to get their message or punchline across to their audiences.
A rant could be used to flame members of an e-mail group or electronic mailing list who are failing to reach a consensus on an issue, or to present another's alleged opinion on a subject.
- 3 years ago
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ras_menelik
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TopScruffy
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resolute:
Maybe you should listen, idiot.
- 3 years ago
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TopScruffy
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DeliaTheArtist
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Do we ever pause and consider how many people are "driving while inebriated"? What about the millions of people on prescription medications? They get a free pass from the gov to take very intense chemicals that have a wide range of effects on your body and brain, yet do we consider them "driving while high"?
If marijuana is legalized for medicinal purposes, we will have to accept that high drivers will be on the road (we should accept it now, as there already are!)
- 3 years ago
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DeliaTheArtist
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simplecj
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This totally reminds me of snowboarding. I mean, really, I can participate in extreme sports while pretty high and actually perform better and enjoy it more as well. So who can really say that I can fly down a mountain with a plank strapped to my feet, but I can't drive a car?
Sailing through several feet of fresh powder and winding though big beautiful pine trees is like my ultimate zen!I love it!!
- 3 years ago
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simplecj
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simplecj
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I might agree that rookies and those who are not used to the effects of cannabis, probably shouldn't drive. For those of us experienced and responsible about our use, we know how to handle ourselves instead of acting a fool like the dumb as burn-outs who give cannabis a bad name. Additionally, legal regulations could help keep cannabis out of the hands of irresponsible teenagers, something that prohibition has completely failed at accomplishing no matter how hard they tried.
Alcohol is perfectly legal, yet has been proven to cause MAJOR impairment to drivers, while the few toking and driving studies that have been done show that while cannabis does effect drivers, it does so in almost the opposite way that alcohol acts; making the drivers drive slower and more cautiously.
What further stands as a testimony to this is the huge number of alcohol related traffic fatalities, and the almost non-existent evidence of cannabis related wrecks, let alone fatalities. The few cases where the driver did have THC in their system, in every case there were other substances also found, including alcohol and other hard drugs like meth or heroine, so you cannot blame the cannabis. The presence of a substance is really only indicative of a window of time for consumption based on how long that substance remains in your system. Almost every legal and illegal substance is out of your system in a few days, but cannabis stays for up to a month or sometimes longer, so again, there's no possible way to say that those with cocktails in their systems were effected by the cannabis more than the other substances.
Cannabis is safe, there is plenty of evidence, why do we have to continue to argue?
FREE THE WEED!!!
- 3 years ago
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simplecj
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Gargaryun
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To expand on what galwayman said...I've never had any problem at all driving while stoned(without ANY alcohol involved) & when I bought a Motorcycle after being off of them for 19 years (other than a couple of test rides), I discovered that My re-learning curve improved amazingly after I ate magic brownies....tended to allow Me to "become one" with My bike, all the while causing Me to REALLY pay attention to what I was doing...It's a dichotomy, but the less tense You are, the better You "feel" the road, improving response & balance.
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Gargaryun
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simplecj
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Gargaryun:
That totally reminds me of snowboarding. I mean, really, I can participate in extreme sports while pretty high and actually perform better and enjoy it more as well. So who can really say that I can fly down a mountain with a plank strapped to my feet, but I can't drive a car?
Sailing through several feet of fresh powder and winding though big beautiful pine trees is like my ultimate zen!I love it!!
- 3 years ago
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simplecj
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logicpocket [removed]
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logicpocket [removed]
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TopScruffy
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logicpocket:
You're an idiot.
Alcohol hinders, marijuana enhances. It's truly not comparable.
- 3 years ago
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TopScruffy
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simplecj
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logicpocket:
I might agree that rookies and those who are not used to the effects of cannabis, probably shouldn't drive. For those of us experienced and responsible about our use, we know how to handle ourselves instead of acting a fool like the dumb as burn-outs who give cannabis a bad name.
Alcohol is perfectly legal, yet has been proven to cause MAJOR impairment to drivers, while the few toking and driving studies that have been done show that while cannabis does effect drivers, it does so in almost the opposite way that alcohol acts; making the drivers drive slower and more cautiously.
What further stands as a testimony to this is the huge number of alcohol related traffic fatalities, and the almost non-existent evidence of cannabis related wrecks, let alone fatalities. The few cases where the driver did have THC in their system, in every case there were other substances also found, including alcohol and other hard drugs like meth or heroine, so you cannot blame the cannabis.
- 3 years ago
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simplecj
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DeliaTheArtist
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logicpocket:
I would be careful to compare being drunk to being high in any case, especially driving. Alcohol and marijuana do different things to your mind and body. Driving high is really not that hard for some people.
- 3 years ago
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DeliaTheArtist
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galwayman
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good story Jack! I've rode my bike stoned many times and you tend to be more careful stoned then not! bet the government and the alcohol industry put this out to spread more lies about cannabis and its failed war on drugs!
- 3 years ago
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galwayman
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darkhorsejim
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Thanks as usual Jack for putting the MJ controversy in perspective. Alcohol is far more poisonous & destructive to an individual, a family & society in general. Talk about a gateway to a lifetime of hellish misery for those adversely affected by uncontrolled drinking.
But we don't hear these real stories about alcohol, the most popular drug in the world, because it's so widely accepted. The same mindset carries over to cigarettes, coffee & some prescription drugs - all proven to be physically addictive with long-term, unhealthy & even fatal consequences if abused. And these are all legal, regulated substances, heavily advertised & taxed for the enormous revenues generated at the expense of the masses.
And on the flip side, we don't hear the real stories of pot smokers who choose to use for a variety of perfectly valid reasons as people have done for millennia - only that they're criminal drug users. Ironically, MJ still faces a huge hurdle of acceptance in the mind of the public because of discriminatory gov’t propaganda spewed since the 1930’s followed by the laughable, so-called war on drugs that has done nothing except increase the amount, potency & variety of drugs sold in the U.S., ultimately sustaining drug cartels & helping to fund terrorism around the world.
Here in Massachusetts, we’re still enjoying our recent decriminalization of MJ without the state grinding to a halt because everyone’s baked 24/7. Now that 25% of the country has passed similar laws, it’s only a matter of time that other states will follow, realizing we have far more serious problems facing us. Seeing that the amount of resources used in an impossible attempt to keep MJ a crime can be used elsewhere in a far more beneficial manner, whether for infrastructure improvements or sustainable energy development, the momentum to decriminalize MJ is finally being realized.
- 3 years ago
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darkhorsejim
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krush_productions
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Good article, I like the way the author supports every point, credibly. Good stuff Jack!
- 3 years ago
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simplecj
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I drive fine stoned and have been doing it for almost 12 years now, minus a year long "vaccation". I actually zone into the driving, sometimes focusing on stuff far more than I would normally. I think it's fun.
Hardest thing I ever drove on... acid for sure, but we all still made it home safe!!
- 3 years ago
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simplecj
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kittyomally
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simplecj:
Totally. I had to drive 60 miles frying balls in my younger days and I won't ever do that again. The vivid colors in the sky kept distracting me.
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kittyomally
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simplecj
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simplecj:
I had to drive at 3am after a rave got shut down back in 99. The dose was just starting to kick in, and I had to make it all the way from SLC to Logan, UT (normally a 1.5 hr drive).
That was back when they were doing heavy construction on I-15 and many onramps were closed. It took me like an hour to finally make it on the highway, then 2 more hours driving north on the highway in a heavy rain storm for part of it.
It was insane and pretty traumatic, but I knew it was better than wandering the streets of SLC all night on a head full of dose. I've had several experiences like that in the past and actually got a reputation of being one of the safest drivers in my group of friends because I could actually pull it together enough to focus on the task at hand... never again though. Haven't touched that stuff in almost ten years now!
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simplecj
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jacocoll
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great article
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jacocoll
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Santeria13
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i drive high all the time. i drive right on speed limit by putting my car in cruise control. i become a very careful driver also
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Santeria13
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itdango
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Santeria13:
cruise control is the love of my life.
- 3 years ago
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itdango
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blknight
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I don't think you will catch someone zoomin 90mph down the highway smoking a joint. But I've heard of accidents where alcohol was involved and people speeding quite a bit.
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blknight
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fun_size
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Having driven high on many occasions and having been in the car with other drivers while high, i can tell you a few things about it. First off not everyone is capable of driving while high. Ive heard of a few friends who have done absolutely RETARDED things while driving high(hit a mailbox and not know it, pull off the entire side panel of a car while backing out of a driveway, etc.) Second, the people who are capable of driving high tend to drive much slower than usual and brake well before its necessary. High drivers are like old ladies behind the wheel.
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fun_size
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Buddah_Funk
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This is just another attempt at trying to convince the public that marijuana is dangerous. I bet it was the Alcohol companies that payed for the study?
Or maybe it was our government? In efforts to boost support for the war on DRUGS.
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Buddah_Funk
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shade1012
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interesting
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shade1012
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sarahlane
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Interesting that marijuana isn't being isolated in these statistics... and yeah, seems pretty flawed.
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sarahlane
