The US Senate announces it will investigate torture under Bush
source: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Senate_to_announce_investigation_of_torture_0225.html
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The Senate is quietly preparing plans to investigate allegations of torture under President George W. Bush, according to comments published Wednesday by Senate Judiciary Chairman Pat Leahy (D-VT) and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).
The Senate Judiciary Committee could announce a hearing to consider various plans to probe allegations of torture as early as today, according to Salon's Mark Benjamin, citing Committee Chairman Pat Leahy and members of his staff. A call placed Wednesday morning by Raw Story to Leahy's office was not immediately returned.
Sen. Whitehouse said he’s “convinced” the investigation will move forward.
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unclecharlie
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Ha! Ha! If it wasn't for the US military, we would not have freedom of speech. Most of you kiddies would be arrested for speaking out anywhere else! You live in the world's greatest democracy. But I suppose, a dream for you would be to live in Castro's "free" Cuba. So stop slamming it! Read futuregens post, and jahoosaphats post too. (J is a fellow vet) Obviously, if they ever went to college, they successfully fought off the "America is the Enemy" propoganda that US college professors (all the dried up old hippies) feed to well meaning, idealistic dupes like you who hate America. Let's treat the terrorists as the "Citizens of the World" they are. Please!! They mass murder thousands upon thousands. The Americans, at least, are torturing these goons not killing them. But if an American is captured by Taliban, it's not torture for him- it's murder!! At least David Horowitz and Harry Stein finally "grew up"- you kiddies need to do the same!
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unclecharlie
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unclecharlie
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Nice picture, at the very top...."Here she is....Miss America......"
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unclecharlie
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unclecharlie
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OK, whatever. Even terrorists who cut off peoples heads and kill thousands at one time using jets as bombs need to be treated like the rational, upstanding Citizens of the World that they are. Only a democrat controlled senate would come up with something like this.....
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unclecharlie
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samthesixth
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The USA and Israel are clearly NOT the scum of the earth. Have you never heard of Zimbabwe?
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samthesixth
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charmedkitten
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samthesixth:
oh you mean that country that the US and Britain has a hand in
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charmedkitten
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charmedkitten
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why investigate it when im sure they knew it all along. hell they were probably the ones who authorized.
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charmedkitten
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jahoosafatz
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Oh boy.. I knew I was gonna havta face this eventually. " Soldiers Doing Despicable Things"
When my unit (A 178 INF from Chicago) was training up for our Iraq deployment, we were given several speeches on how to conduct ourselves. Things to do, and not to do. Most notably, the way we treat captured terrorists. Yes, they are guilty of setting off bombs in market squares, were Women & Children reside. However, as Americans, (the good guys that we ARE) we MUST set the standard!
Our Chain of Command repeatedly emphasized, "do NOT do something, that is going to put the Mark of Cain upon you"!!
As I am a Soldier, I realize that there are gonna be people out there that will do things in such a way, that will make service Men & Women look bad.
I do my very BEST to make sure that both I, & the soldiers in my charge, represent our country, & it's ideals to the fullest! The ideals being that, which our fore-fathers set fourth back when we were "The New World".
It is important that the American public understands, that the people (soldiers) at "Abu Ghraib" holding facility for captured terrorists, acted outside of the US Army Standards for Detaining Insurgents. We DO have laws. If we violate them, we have a much more AGRESSIVE "non-judicial system", Uniform Code of Military Justice, (U.C.M.J) that we will answer to. Those soldiers involved in that atrocity, will pay dearly, FOR THE REST of THEIR LIVES!! As they should, no doubt.
In short, service Men & Women are NOT barbarians! We are just like you, and the next guy. 13/16ths of us are good, and 3/16ths are prison bound. We are no different than any other form of American. Except for the fact that we'll EAGERLY sacrifice ourselves, for the good of our country, and any other group of innocent Human Beings that are in need of rescuing/liberating!! That's what we signed up for! That's what [I] signed up for!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS AMERICAN, THEY CALL ME G.I. JOEL!! jahoosafatz..........
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jahoosafatz
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barbara3d
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jahoosafatz:
Thanks for your service and honesty GI Joe Jahoosafatz.
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barbara3d
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barbara3d
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Its been going on since there was a government, no matter what the party. The shame is we LET it all happen. People have just plugged along quietly while being robbed blind. Like in England. They spend BILLIONs so that "Royalty" can be supported in their lifestyle that should have been gone as it no longer serves a purpose really. Watching the Queen (I know it was just a movie but very true to fact and a real eye opener. These kinds of people convince themselves and the PEOPLE that they are deserving to live these outlandish lifestyles while the rest struggle to survive.
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barbara3d
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PrimeTime
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http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE51O3TB20090225?sp=true
HAHAHAHAHAHA i guess the messiah doesn't think its wrong!!!!!!
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jahoosafatz
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PrimeTime:
What da f**k is dat s'posed to mean?? Stop smokin CRACK dude!
jahoosafatz...................
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jahoosafatz
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SDLN
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Understanding how NOT to govern is just as important as understanding how to govern. An examination of the Bush Administration will certainly provide an example of the former.
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SDLN
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barbara3d
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Move on people. Anyone who enjoyed OJs trials needs to get a real life. Focus on the deep &hit we are in NOW. Stop looking back and look forward. Obama has already nixed it.OOPs...guess you have to get a job now and stop watching TV so much.
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barbara3d
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opit
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barbara3d:
There are jobs going begging where you are ?
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opit
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barbara3d
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barbara3d:
what? It was a rhetorical statement , not literal.
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barbara3d
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lcdoll920
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I think this a little late. Where were these allegations when Former President Bush was still in office?
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ChloeLu
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Well, good. It needs to be done. Plain and simple. Although I feel it should have been done a while ago.
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ChloeLu
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charliesommers
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Its not going to happen...lol. God how I love it when you socialists get your panties in a bunch over this. The democrats are going to waste millions of dollars (as usual) for absolutely nothing. Too funny. Leahy is such a hipocrite.
I suppose it was not a waste of money when the republicans investigated Whitewater to the tune of
50 million dollars. We are supposed to be the moral leaders of the world. Japanese who conducted water boarding during WW-2 were later convicted, by us, for war crimes. Confessions obtained by torture are totally worthless, the victim will say what you want to hear just to get you to stop, even if he knows nothing. People of high moral standards to not engage in such activities. - 2 years ago
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futuregen
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Obama administration backs Bush, tries to kill ‘lost’ White House emails lawsuit
This does not make me have much "hope". Only more cover-up.
Excerpts from Article:
Monday, Feb 23, 2009
Missing email includes day Cheney’s office told to preserve emails in CIA leak case
WASHINGTON — Welcome to change.The Obama administration, siding with former President George W. Bush, is trying to kill a lawsuit that seeks to recover what could be millions of missing White House e-mails in a stunning reversal of Obama’s rhetoric about Bush secrecy on the campaign trail.
The exact number of missing e-mails is unknown, but several days on which e-mails were not archived covered key dates in a Justice Department inquiry into the roles of Vice President Dick Cheney and his aides in leaking the identity of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson.
Ironically, Cheney’s office is missing emails from the very day President Bush told reporters he’d “take care of” whatever staff member had actually leaked the CIA agent’s name.
“If there is a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is,” Bush said Sept. 30, 2003. “And if the person has violated the law, the person will be taken care of.”
Emails are missing from at least some of 473 days of Bush’s presidency.
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futuregen
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futuregen
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I remember hearing there were Israelis in the building across from the world trade center that were seen with equipment to "direct/guide airplanes". This had to be covered on the national mainstream media because that's what I was watching at the time. This was right after 911 happened.
Excerpt from article:
"Israeli intelligence connections to 9/11 can be traced back to the five “dancing Israelis” who were witnessed setting up video camera equipment pointed at the World Trade Center in New York before the first plane hit the tower. The men were seen jumping and high-fiving with shouts of “joy and mockery” as Flight 11 and Flight 175 slammed into the buildings. They were later seen posing for photographs in front of the debris.After the men were arrested, the FBI discovered maps of New York City with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports.
There were also Israeli news reports that the men were driving a white van packed with explosives that were intended to be detonated on the George Washington bridge.
The men were found to have been working for a removal company called Urban Moving Systems, the owner of which immediately fled the U.S. for Israel after the attacks and was subsequently placed on an FBI terror suspect list."
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futuregen
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tbarski
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Terrorism is not planned or committed under any sense honor.
Complain to me after you have lost a loved one to a terrorist attack.
We did not bomb the twin towers, we did however prevent any further attacks on our soil and basically mitigated the Al Queda effectiveness.
Holding terrorist suspects seems seems minimal when 3000 innocent people people kissed their families goodbye and went to work only to never come home again.
This is not a political statement...it's philosophical. - 2 years ago
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opit
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tbarski:
Let me get this straight. A 'terrorist' is somebody who likely doesn't wear a uniform and isn't supplied with killing gear by his government. He may or may not be in his own country. For our purposes he somehow has the money and initiative to enter our country and use sabotage to cause death and destruction. Despicable.
It has been done how often ?
I lived through the Cold War and Mutual Assured Destruction : including the time when SAC bombers were constantly in the air to 'deter Mad Ivan' - while US bombers sneaked into Soviet airspace to 'stir things up' fairly routinely - though the public didn't know this at the time.
Compared to that I'm now supposed to think we should all shake in fear in our cellars over what are little more than scouting parties.Did I say are ? I haven't seen any reports of such that I can recall!
But : they wouldn't be 'terrorists' if they wore a uniform, drove a tank, or used naval artillery, missiles or attack aircraft. Then they would be proper military and the Good Guys.
And they would be 'Defending America'. Even outside the Continental United States in peacetime.
Say what ?
http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html
That could be a matter of perspective. You think I'm unreasonable ? Oh hell - get a load of this then !
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21052.htm - 2 years ago
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PajamaDan
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This would be deserving and responsible. In a global community, EVERYONE answers for their wrongs,... even if some regard it as right. But,... repercussions shan't be dispensed so willfully. IFF something happened as a result of investigating the US,... surely the evil-doers would be statute-lapsed or commuted or rich enough to walk.
But, props for stepping up! - 2 years ago
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PajamaDan
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Raven6
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Trillions of dollars in debt
Lied us into war
Thousands of Americans killed in that war
Millions of jobs lost
Millions of homes lost
Wounded Veterans getting the shaftBush's friends and administration are traitors.
We're mad as hell and want prosecutions !
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Raven6
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Bren589
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I hope it does happen , It will make history thats for sure. But not holding my breath untill i see it with my own eyes. Its way past their time to be charged with these crimes. . Peace to all
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Bren589
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NO it’s not okay to torture people but if other countries cannot take care of their waste (prisoners) then we have to help them out. Because these were people that were considered threats to our homeland, and the only reason why we did have them there is to protect America that’s what you people don’t understand, these pieces of shit had some type of plans or were associated with people who wanted to commit acts of violence against our country . We have to watch over the rest of this world b/c no one has the balls or arms to take care of their own shit. So by releasing these ingrates (barely human) we are in fact making our lives as Americans worse!
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Prijedor
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NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN!!
Come on people this is a waste of time... These people are above the law.
Wake the fuck up and realize that.
Only when we get a true person that is for the people in the white house (like Ron Paul) and when we get the congress that is going to be working for WE THE PEOPLE and not corporations and big oil.... then and only then we might see some people go to jail and a lot of changes...
As long as the media is controlled by the few that do not have the best interest of the people, change will have a thought time coming our way anytime soon. - 2 years ago
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Prijedor:
Well. They investigated Clinton's affair. Seeing as that wasn't above the law I can only hope the torture of other humans wont be either.
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GatorMonkey
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Prijedor:
and gatormonkey just nailed the golden argument.
who wants to put bets on what obama will be investigated for when he's out of office? my money's on throwbacks to his campaign financiers, but it's still early
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sidedish
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synclaire
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About god damn time!! I want to see some accountability and I want to see Karl Rove "perp walked" from his house straight to jail for contempt of congress.
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synclaire
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Valence
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I recommend staying very clear of this until other problems have been taken care of,because this will be HUGE!
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Valence
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Valence:
The problem is EVERYTHING is gonna be huge. The country needs to do a 180 and unfortunately MOST of the issues can't afford to be placed on the backburner.
Im sure there is a legal reason why this has to happen w/in a certain time frame.
I doubt there will ever be "time" to focus on this and Back burner other issues.
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GatorMonkey
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Valence
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Valence:
Personally i think the economy is way "huger" than anything has come up,realistically America needs to fix itself before it tries to fix anything else.
Something America seems to fail at,fixing itself.
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Valence
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Valence:
I agree, but I think Obama IS making huge changes. Or trying to find a way to go about that. Implementing caps and restrictions we never would have seen in the past presidency. Remember, we aren't even out of the first 100 days yet and he's already making some big moves.
Im just saying there is so much to BE fixed that we need to be able to concentrate on more than one at a time. He is obviously attempting to tackle the economy. We'll see if it works (and I know we all hope it does, even the haters, because who wants to watch their country go down the drain!) and i'll applaud his attempts into any other actions he foreys into.
This will ALL take time. Nothing can happen within the first month. But hopefully he can reduce the time we'll be in a recession (its not necessarily him FIXING it but reducing greating the time we'll be in it... history shows its a cycle, its just, how long will we be stuck in it and how horribly will it continuet o affect us) and be able to 180 the other issues we are facing.
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GatorMonkey
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Valence
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Valence:
True,well said.
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Valence
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blknight
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I doubt anything will happen to Cheney or Bush.
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neocongo
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Hmmm. Wasting millions of dollars investigating our country's use of torture vs wasting millions of dollars investigating a president's lying about a blow job. Clearly the Obama administration is making an investment that will have massive, positive, international implications.
Why do the Democrats always have to show Republicans what it means to live by the New Testament and the Golden Rule. Is it because the leaders of the GOP spit in the face of the faith of their constituents? Because they don't believe a word of the religiousity they babble to get elected? Because they believe in nothing but creating fear and reacting with violence?
String the bastards up.
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neocongo:
what a hypocrite you are! If violent acts are SO wrong against so called "terrorists"" and we are "above such atrocities"...why is there so much glee in your voice when you say "string those bastards up"??? So, I guess you mean torture is ok IF you hate the person but not if they are a possible terrorist? hmmm.
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barbara3d
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futuregen
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I would like to sue for one. They have put me out of business and I will soon loose my home if justice is not attained. We could also prevent another war. The military industrial complex does not deserve over half of our taxpayer dollars when they are working against the American people. Our country has already turned into a police state, many of you are just not aware yet. Israel seems to have been involved in 911 as was our military. They want Americans to hate Iranians so we will back a war against Iran. The corporations profit from building military weapons and associated military paraphernalia. The catholic church profits from donations from the military industrial complex and corrupt politicians.
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futuregen
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I approve of the investigation. There have to be other ways than torture to gain information. It is so cruel and I am ashamed that our country would stoop to such drastic means. This is America, or did we forget that somehow?
However, even when proven, what form of punishment could there possibly be? Perhaps just showing another tragic incident of the Bush administration will be sufficient!
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DaawnaC
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SometimesTheFur
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Sadly, I won't hold my breath for the justice that's truly needed.
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mark1957
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If Obama is as smart as most of you believe, he will stay very clear of this. Wouldn't putting more troops in Afghanistan. be considered a war crime? Slippery slope guys, slippery. Looks like headline grabbing and tax wasting to me. Haven't we spent enough already?
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mark1957
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mark1957:
The slippery slope is to make unfounded generalizations.
The point is that to have evidence to prove the charges that way the guilty don't get away with their crimes and the innocent are not charged with them for no reason.
The outrage is that people are not being charged with crimes that they have evidence for because of their influence.
That people can get away with atrocious acts scott free because of positions of power is the slippery slope no matter what the administration.
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mark1957:
Putting more troops in Afghanistan a war crime? That depends. Are we putting more troops in there to stabilize the country until we can help rebuild it, or are we simply invading, overthrowing and then making up excuses about why we invaded in the first place?
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Varex_Sythe
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It's about time this happened! Bush,Cheney,and the rest of his administration are war criminals and should face trial! Lets hope that this "investigation" leads to a trial and not a whitewash!
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fayemurman
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I'm confused. How does being against torture make us socialists?
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fayemurman
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fayemurman:
Your question is obviously rhetorical. Torturing other human beings has absolutely nothing to do with socialism. It has to do with being civilized.
I think there should be some gentlemen's agreement that you have to define labels intended to be pejorative before you use them.
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fayemurman:
That would presume one was dealing with gentlemen : an unwarranted description for criminal scum engaged in psyops.http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21052.htm
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opit
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fayemurman:
it doesn't. whenever the dems seem to be on the verge of something big the gops seem to get nervous and pull out the name calling.
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fayemurman:
republicans only say these kinds of things. the truth is, the military is a socialist system and they still continue to throw the word around like its an insult. hypocracy at it's finest. im not a supporter of socialism, just to clarify. i'm a supporter of the Venus Project.
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Its not going to happen...lol. God how I love it when you socialists get your panties in a bunch over this. The democrats are going to waste millions of dollars (as usual) for absolutely nothing. Too funny. Leahy is such a hipocrite.
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clownpuncher:
I guess we shouldn't be surprised that the neocons are getting their panties in a bunch.
Remember when they said Obama would never win?
Oh wait.. Thats right. He did.
BUT, of course, it DOES make way more sense to spend millions of dollars investigating a blowjob... its just us treehuggin hippies bein silly for wanting a deeper look into the past president and his cronies torturing other humans.
Yes. That totally clicks. Wow, why didnt I see the light before!
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clownpuncher:
dosent hide the fact the torture is illegal and should be dealt with on a moral basis if not at least political. anyone who instigates this kind of pain on someone should be locked away. It has been proven that under torture you are more likely to say what ever you can to get out of the situation, BAM confess. what do you think?
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clownpuncher:
Wait a minute Gator,
The Clinton thing was not about a bj. It was about sexual power and whether it was proper to exude it as a public official directed at an unpaid intern.
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clownpuncher:
The fiasco into zippergate was blown way out of proportion by the conservatives for reasons that will be explained in a moment.
First I wish to get something out of the way. The adultery that put the whole country into an uproar, because we were hearing the words "blow job" on normal TV for the first time in history, occurred between two consenting adults. He consented, she consented. Yes Bill cheated on his wife. No, this should not have been a surprise to anyone who had actually checked up on Bill's history as a governor.
Now, the most likely reason why the republican party went on a hell bent single minded mission was the humiliation of watergate. Sure, Bill did offer the republican party an easy, if not politically pointless, target to try to tip the scales back in their political favor; however, an even better reason was that the first lady was one of the active questioners of Nixon during the hearings. And none of those questioners, including Hilary, was asking particularly pleasant questions for Nixon to answer.
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clownpuncher:
Yo Clownpucher, cool name, YO!!
jahoosafatz.................
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bansheewail
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Furturegen, read Naomi Kleins "Shock Doctrine". It helps spell it all out in black and white. keep up the good work.
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bansheewail:
Not to diss Naomi - she scares the whee out of anyone with half a brain - but you don't have to buy her book to get lots to think about. Look under Overton Window - for starters - at my http://my.opera.com/oldephartte/links/ a.k.a. Opit's LinkFest!
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opit
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bansheewail
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Primetime, do they go down that hole even if their innocent?? Just curious. I am glad to see you admit that the tactics used bythe Bush administartion are ("so they can feel how it feels to die from terrorism.") in fact terrorism. What a revelation. Keep reading, you'll get there.
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bansheewail:
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE51O3TB20090225?sp=true
Here you go woman and do some research on who is in this hell hole!!!!!! People who conspired against America!!!!! - 2 years ago
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bansheewail:
I don't think much of a Lawyers statements especially when he is working to free all these "poor people who like to kill Americans and others". If someone's brother is there innocently, that is wrong but he should not go into a country in the middle of war looking for a brother. There were safer ways to try to find him.
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futuregen
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I donated $300.00 to the Howard Dean campaign in 2004 as he was the presidential candidate brave enough to speak out against the war. Within a week or two my phones were radically bugged (they had been bugged before but this was obvious) and the military moved in behind my house. They have used torture on my family and I. The pro-military industrial complex Catholic church/General Electric was very much involved in our torture also. (Even when we went on a retreat with the Diocese of Peoria to Rome). We are Americans on American soil. There is much corruption, pre-meditated control, deceit, and murder to expose right on our soil, being done to Americans. A lot of it is being directed by homeland security and senators. Only if they get rid of some of these corrupt politicians and expose the military industrial Diocese of Peoria will they get the truth. No senator from Maine should be on the committee. They are using the military and fellow Republicans to further their own personal agendas. Goodbye Catholic church, you are nothing like "Jesus".
- 2 years ago
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futuregen
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fayemurman
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Why now? The Senate are a bunch of pussies! This should have happened years ago
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fayemurman
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fayemurman:
You're right. But there was a lot of puppeteering going on in the Busshit years. Let's just be content that it IS happening vs the when and where. If that makes sense.
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GatorMonkey
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We are the leaders of the world and should act like it. We found that not everyone detained were terrorist. Torture does very little good. Like during WWll where our people were toutured. We were believed to be terrorist for bombing Japan by the Japanese.
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Well I mean these people were the scum of the earth, I think this is stupid especially once we have the first attack on American soil from someone who was released from Guantanamo bay by Barry Obama. It’s like Oscar the grouch said keep the garbage in the can where it belongs..... We should throw these piss ants who were in there down a hole that never ends so they can feel how it feels to die from terrorism.
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PrimeTime:
I'm confused by your comment. Are you saying it was OK for the US, under Busshit, to torture other humans? Just want some clarification. Simple yes or no will suffice.
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PrimeTime:
how bout getting sent to guantanamo for no reason...this guy was looking for his brother and spent to year in guantanamo.
http://enews.ferghana.ru/article.php?id=2057 - 2 years ago
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kampungboy
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PrimeTime:
you need to get out more.
- 2 years ago
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kampungboy
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PrimeTime
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PrimeTime:
NO it’s not okay to torture people but if other countries cannot take care of their waste (prisoners) then we have to help them out. Because these were people that were considered threats to our homeland, and the only reason why we did have them there is to protect America that’s what you people don’t understand, these pieces of shit had some type of plans or were associated with people who wanted to commit acts of violence against our country . We have to watch over the rest of this world b/c no one has the balls or arms to take care of their own shit. So by releasing these ingrates (barely human) we are in fact making our lives as Americans worse!
- 2 years ago
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PrimeTime
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akabetty
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PrimeTime:
They were only considered threats to our homeland by faulty intelligence information. Bush started an all out war for oil and for the destruction of religious ideals different from his own. There are a lot of men in Guantanamo who are not terrorists, bu good family men who may or may not have known someone who is a terrorist at some point in time. Just because you know who someone is does not make you guilty. We have laws that protect people from being considered guilty by association and since Guantanamo is US property, US laws apply. Most prisoners there are imprisoned illegally.
- 2 years ago
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akabetty
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Mark701
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PrimeTime:
PrimeTime: What? First off who said we HAVE to watch over the rest of the world? Who voted us the world's police force? To be honest, I think China should be allowed this chore because nothing destroys a country faster than maintaining an behemoth military force that forces you to bankrupt your economy.
Second 95% of those "pieces of shit" you refer to were innocent civilians caught up in the paranoid sweep of everything that looked Arab. Half of them probably couldn't identify the United States on a map and the other half could probably care less. Ever wonder why 99% of them were never charged with a crime? I'll say this slowly so you can absorb it..there...was....no....evidence....against...them. They were imprisoned because they came from the Middle East, Pakistan and Afghanistan and George Bush needed a body count. THAT's IT. And rather than admit he made a terrible mistake he had them tortured and cooped up like animals because free men talk and W was never very good at admitting mistakes.
- 2 years ago
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Mark701
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sammysoul
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PrimeTime:
PrimeTime, you don't know what you're talking 'bout! And I say that in the nicest possible way. I suggest you start reading up what really happened in the last 8 years.
- 2 years ago
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sammysoul
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bansheewail
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It's about time. This will be better than both the OJ trials put together!!
- 2 years ago
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bansheewail
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cerealforeal
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bansheewail:
foreal
- 2 years ago
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cerealforeal
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boscosaur
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bansheewail:
you took the words out of my mouth. i hope they lock bush up for shitting all over human rights
- 2 years ago
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boscosaur
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GatorMonkey
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bansheewail:
PSSHHAWWW. This could even be better than the OJ car chase.
Wait. Hmm. NM. But yes. Better than the trials
- 2 years ago
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GatorMonkey
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jahoosafatz
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bansheewail:
Sorry, this has nuttn' to do with the topic in question: Were the HELL did you get that picture of the soccer dude gettin drilled in da face w/a ball? That's freakin awesome!! I wanna get that pic, blow it up to say, frameble size, then hang it on me wall! Cheers mate!!
jahoosafatz....................
- 2 years ago
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jahoosafatz
