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The Right to Die or Die Trying

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Euthanasia in France has recently caused a lot of debates. Euthanasia is illegal, but doctors have still performed the procedure, and there is a big right to die movement. Some people who can afford it travel to Switzerland, where euthansia is legal, to choose to die.

We'll hear the story of 29 year old French twins who suffer from Cystic Fibrosis and support the right to die movement in France. We also hear from legislators, doctors and others involved in this movement.
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  • c1r3s
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      c1r3s  
    • Self determination is the core of all human belief systems, free will to do what we will, to believe what we will, and, if needed, die. It is a part of who we are as people, we live, we die, but in between we... choose.

      Laws against Euthanasia are just the last remnants of Old World thinking. Governments should not have the right to tell me what I can or can not do to my own body.

    • 2 years ago
  • keys71
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      keys71  
    • Perhaps there are those who would not mind being trapped in their ill-functioning bodies, where care needs to be given constantly. Or those who do not mind experiencing an undefinable amount of time and pain before their minds and bodies give way to the ravages of their disease.I feel that there should be circumstances where the right to die with dignity should be allowed.

      The problem with not protecting that right, as I see it, is that those whose assistance were needed to help or who wanted to be there in a supportive fashion would now be at risk for criminal persecution.

    • 3 years ago
  • Tayllerand
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  • hella_cereal
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      hella_cereal  
    • The opponents of assisted suicide are often comprised of lobbyists from the gargantuan pharmaceutical industry or conservative religious organizations who have a very clear interest in maintaining sick people alive and suffering. Unfortunately, greed is more important to them than sympathy.

    • 3 years ago
  • snanders
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      snanders  
    • Very sad indeed... I think people who are suffering and have almost no hope should be able to end their life on their own terms.
      My problem is how people may possibly abuse this "God-given" right if it were made legal with too little regulation. I mean, how does it work, can anyone just ask to kill themselves? Do you have to be terminally ill to be allowed to have assisted suicide? Where's the line drawn? Should there even be a line if some people think its a god-given right? And if it should be regulated, who can kill themselves and who can't?

    • 3 years ago
  • hairwhipper
  • samthesixth
  • animalia_libero
  • naty_forty
  • KI4CLZ
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      KI4CLZ  
    • ....And they will clamor for more and more legislation....

      Sheesh like we need the government's involvement, if you decide to snuff it...

      Who cares if it's against the law, you're dead...

      I've never seen such a bunch of whiners...

      "We want more laws, we want more laws"

      The government has never been able to do it's job and now you think they'll get this right...

      You wanna kill yourself go right ahead... it's easy!

      Just think of that ole' Paul Simon song '50 ways to leave your lover' but instead of leaving your lover, you're killing yourself.... XD

      Just pop a few caps Jack
      Tie a tight rope dope
      Pop a few pills Phil

      and set yourself free...

      (or get the government involved; and fill out a few hundred forms, see if you qualify, or if your insurance will cover it, and then have your death on the conscience of a perfectly good doctor, hope it doesn't get botched, he gets sued, your family gets pissed-
      Man just do it the old fashioned way and eat 20 boxes of sleeping pills or something)

    • 3 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • KI4CLZ:

      Simply killing yourself is different that being in a hospital surrounded by people with a terminal illness and wanting to end your life. Really think about how "easy" it is for a dying cancer patient, someone with a brain aneurysm, someone too weak to control their bodily functions to kill themselves.

      Perhaps if you had someone in this position you would feel differently and show a little bit of sensitivity to it?

    • 3 years ago
  • KI4CLZ
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      KI4CLZ  
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    • KI4CLZ:

      again D' you missed the point...

      Do we need Government involvement?

      NO

      Can our government function in a compassionate capacity...? (which is clearly needed here)

      NO

      Then why do we keep on including them in our lives...?

      Who cares if it's illegal! Do you think for one second that those brave Bostonians gave a damn if it was illegal- when they dressed up like indians and threw all the tea in the river...?

      Would you rather have the Gov. over your shoulder to decide when you can die or your friends and lovers....?

      The government WILL make death clinical and terse, but your son or daughter will let you die with dignity.

    • 3 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • KI4CLZ:

      But how could you kill yourself in the hospital without some government involvement? Certainly there needs to be standardization of methods and tools if we are to accept euthanasia into our society, right? Again, how is someone who is too weak to use the bathroom going to end their suffering? They need help from the doctors, doctors need help from the government.

      Trust I do not like government involvement where it is not needed, but in this case it seems very needed. This is not just about "killing yourself" in general, it's specifically about choosing euthanasia as a patient. Most patients who would chose to end their lives are not in a position where they can simply kill themselves so easily!

    • 3 years ago
  • KI4CLZ
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      KI4CLZ  
    • KI4CLZ:

      "But how could you kill yourself in the hospital without some government involvement?"

      Charitable Organizations, Human Rights Groups, Your Family....

      As to the means to the end- You have a good point; that I had not throughly thought out... So an end to a suicide prohibition would actually be necessary in some respects... but that is where it ends. A prohibition would make available the powerful drugs to these Doctor run Human Rights Groups that would do the deed... but then you would probably need some more damn laws to make sure these people were doing their jobs correctly and humanely...

      I guess my biggest problem with Euthanasia, after carefully considering both sides, is where do you draw the line.... Am I gonna wake up one morning and find out that I'm due on the chopping block because I can no longer contribute, as deemed by some legislation or health (-snicker-) organization...

      We already have the Government supporting death in the womb (thanks Obama) when will the government support our "right to choose our time of death" by letting others outside of our control pull the plug...?

      The babies have no voice; when the mother (or father) decides to kill them... Who will be my voice when another decides to kill me in the name of Euthanasia...?

      (and for the record I have someone already lined up to pull the plug, push the needle, what have you, when the time comes)

      btw- and this is way, way off subject- but when did current start turning into YouTube-style-crassness comment and review as opposed to critical review and thought... I mean you know that I'm a staunch Conservative, Libertarian (not Neo-Con, make me puke) and a 'Myth believing' Christian; but I am still able to sit at the table with the likes of you and hash this stuff out... It is frustrating to see the 10-second-sound-bite-mind-shrinking train of thought that is becoming more prevalent on current...

    • 3 years ago
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • Here in the states, the freedoms of individual life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness all include within them deciding when to die.

      It's the individual's life, the individual's liberty, and the individual's pursuit of happiness . . . and current anti-euthanasia laws violate all three of those premises.

      Any law that protects you from yourself is unjust and violates civil liberties. Laws should only be made to protect people from other people.

    • 3 years ago
  • 1percent
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      1percent  
    • Just as you have every Right to choose how you live your life, You should have every Right to choose how you end it.

      Pareo Nullus

    • 3 years ago
  • seanalyn
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      seanalyn  
    • wow that is a very VERY naive thing to say GoSkateAllDay. These arent some little emo kids who think life sucks, these are people who are in incredible pain and are facing a certain and even more painful death. How dare you say that they arent trying when you are not in their situation and have not even the ability to grasp what they are going through.

      Also you have obviously never watched a loved one slowly and painfully die. If my father had not succumb to his cancer so quickly I wouldve supported him if he chose to die with dignity rather than to wither away in prolonged unnecessary pain. When there is no hope left and you have accepted your imminent death you should be allowed to end your life with joy and love rather than be forced to suffer and endure humiliation.

      I think its sad that you have such a narrow and naive view of the world and of pain. The pain these people endure is nothing like when you bailout on your board...that is not pain at all compared to what many people suffer with daily knowing fully that there is absolutely no cure and no way to stop their slow crawl to death.

    • 3 years ago
  • current89
  • GoSkateAllDay
  • DeliaTheArtist
  • malathion
  • crashbangnoises
  • cottenpicker
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      cottenpicker  
    • the only thing that we will ever really own in this life is our body. we should have the right to chose if we are very ill to end our life. but medicine is big money and medical community feed off the dying. they have no compassion for you. all they can see is dollars and keep you alive as long as possible to collect all they can from the insurance and leave your love ones with large bills to pay. ITS YOUR BODY IT SHOULD BE YOUR CHOICE.

    • 3 years ago
  • sarahlane
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      sarahlane  
    • I wasn't aware of Switzerland's position on assisted suicide before watching this. Really difficult to think of people suffering toward death. I think I agree with the twins.

    • 3 years ago
  • masterzip
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      masterzip  
    • Dying w/ dignity is a huge concern for me as one of my best friends(39 years old) has been on life support for over 4 weeks to date. each week his condition grows worse and it is very gruesome to see human anatomy distorted in such a manner. He has liver failure, kidney failure, jaundice, low blood pressure, etc, etc.. He starts bleeding from his nose, mouth and ears, and it will not stop, He has to have fluids that would normally be processed by the liver pumped out of his abdomen. Fluids also leek into other areas of his body, making him a complete distortion of anatomy.(it gets worse, but I will not continue with even more gruesome details) It is only by modern medicine that we are able to keep people alive past their due date. My friend has lived in so much pain the past 4 weeks and is connected to dialysis machine 24hours a day just to keep his body in a state that I believe no person should ever achieve. Does it make sense to keep a person on a slow march to death? In past times he would have never made it to the hospital alive, and would have passed to his next reality in a much painless manner. There is something called a "prime directive" that everyone should set up w/ their lawyer, it will specifically lay out the conditions of how you want to pass if you ever are unconscious where you can not make decisions.

    • 3 years ago
  • seanalyn
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      seanalyn  
    • masterzip:

      masterzip, im so sorry to hear about what you are enduring with your friend. My father very recently passed away at the age of 52 from cancer and the only thing that gave me comfort was that we were able to have him in our home with us and not have him hooked up to any machines to unnecessarily prolong his death. It was incredibly painful to watch him slip further and further away each day as his body withered and shut down. But I know if he was hooked up to all sorts of machines it wouldve drawn out his death and he would still be suffering. Im just glad that everyone in my family has written their wishes (non of us want extreme measures or life support) so we didnt have to make a difficult decision. We knew my father wanted to pass away naturally and peacefully surrounded by his family with his favorite music in the air.

      I hope soon you and your friend can both find peace. I know ive said this before but everyone please PLEASE set up a living will even if you are young so that your loved ones do not have to unnecessarily suffer and struggle through your death.

    • 3 years ago
  • noxidereus
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      noxidereus  
    • Obviously people should have the right to die. The only arguments against it are religious in nature, and therefore not founded in reality and devoid of empathy for the human condition.

    • 3 years ago
  • DeliaTheArtist
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      DeliaTheArtist  
    • Who has the right to decide when you die if you don't? Who owns your body if you don't? What does freedom mean to someone who is suffering and can not choose to end it?

    • 3 years ago
  • smurph25
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