CA Hears Gay Marriage Arguments

Uh no, this is a Democratic Republic, not some tyranny of the majority "let's make Socrates drink hemlock because he scares me" democracy.

We have a constitution for a reason, you don't write shit like this into gently. Plus, it makes no sense that 50% + 1 person can do whatever the fuck they want while elected representatives need a 2/3's majority.

The basis of our country is that we guarantee freedom for everyone, not ensure rights to one privileged group and bullshit for everyone else.

I mean literally, by your logic, we should have overturned the civil rights act and brown vs. board of education or any other civil rights legislature. More people were against than for it at the time!

You know what you're saying is wrong and furthermore, you don't even care about this issue. So why bother leaving a comment at all?

It MATTERS to gay people, both symbolically and literally. This is an affirmation by the state of their existence and a guarantee to legal rights they clearly deserve and that everyone else already has.

amen to that! you know, abolitionists were a minority in the antebellum period. history is truly repeating itself.

"Gays got along fine before, why are things different now?" If by "got along fine" you mean got discriminated against, beaten, killed and denied civil rights for being gay...oh wait, that still happens now. So I guess things aren't very different, are they?

"I believe that love between two people shouldn't need marriage it should be unconditional if you really love them." They don't need it, but that's up to the couple to CHOOSE. The problem is, gay people don't have the choice at all.

@saladin I am truly sorry for not saying that we live in Democratic Republic. I love our country and the Constitution means a lot to me.

I was misguided in some of the things i said, sorry for the inconvenience.

with all repect , america was not built on equality , the situation we have right now in country,(madaffs and so many other theives) are being prised by what they are doing , tell me something, in a normal situation in usa
millions of people invest and what they get ( i said in normal usa not now) is a few dollar interest every month
what ceo's get is millions of dollars from yours and my money , so you see the sistem is not a good sistem to begin with, there was no equalities at the first place
madaff and the others are the products of this sistem
if you want a real change and some equalities we must chang the whole sistem.

There is no god. The only shame is being duped by ignorant religious superstition.

God has nothing to do with equal rights or more specifically your views on sexual orientation. I respect that your views on same sex marriage and will defend to the pain your right to express them. But you are wrong if you feel this is a criteria to determine who receives rights that are supposed to be afforded to all tax paying citizens in our union. Anything less is simply unconstitutional and un-American.

First, your probably a Christian, right? So lets see what else "your god" endorses;

Slavery;

The Old Testament “As for your male and female slaves whom you have: you may buy slaves from among nations that are round about you”- Leviticus 25:44-46 .

The New Testament does as well. Ephesians 6:5 proclaims “Slaves be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling in singleness of heart, as to Christ…” Similar quotes regarding slavery can be found in Exodus 21:7-11 and 1 Timothy 6:1-4.

General violence,

“If a man not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned”-John 15:6.

"Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword."-Matthew 10: 34-36

"Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matthew 25:41)

“God deems it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you…when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance upon those who do not know God…"-2 Thessalonians 1:6-9 says

Wow, you have some really twisted morals.

"they do not deserve to be married in the eyes of MY God."
That's why they won't be married in YOUR church, under YOUR god's approval. Understand that the American government and YOUR god should have nothing to do with one another.

"these people" have proven to be just as upstanding citizens and parents as heterosexuals if not more so. Any claim otherwise is the result of anti-gay propaganda and fear-based tactics that the Catholic church had utilized to scare people into voting for prop 8. "Teacher's will be forced to teach your children about gay marriage!!" O_O

...and God doesn't belong to you prick. in fact, if you wanted to do a population count, I'd say God belongs to the Muslims.

Also, you views reflect the views of the 18th century where whites saw other "races" (China and India in this example) as inferior no matter how advanced their architecture, art, education and society were because... they weren't Christian.

So I think your a good example of why being homophobic or "homonauceous" (whatever, it's the same) is equivalent to being racist. Good for you! now please evolve.

Dude, you just had to open your mouth.

I am a Christian as well and have had my share or ridicule among the people or Current.

Politically, i am for equal rights.

Religiously, i want my kids to grow up in God.

Well, looks like majority ruled in Prop 8.

it was an amendment to California's Constitution to keep marriage between a man and a woman. Personally, i really don't care.

In the eyes of the majority of Californian voters, gay marriage was wrong and so it was amended. It's how things go, a democracy at it's best, eh?

This is good, these decisions should be up to the states and not the federal government. States are to be sovereign.

Why is this so important now? Gays got along fine before, why are things different now?

Uh no, this is a Democratic Republic, not some tyranny of the majority "let's make Socrates drink hemlock because he scares me" democracy.

We have a constitution for a reason, you don't write shit like this into gently. Plus, it makes no sense that 50% + 1 person can do whatever the fuck they want while elected representatives need a 2/3's majority.

The basis of our country is that we guarantee freedom for everyone, not ensure rights to one privileged group and bullshit for everyone else.

I mean literally, by your logic, we should have overturned the civil rights act and brown vs. board of education or any other civil rights legislature. More people were against than for it at the time!

You know what you're saying is wrong and furthermore, you don't even care about this issue. So why bother leaving a comment at all?

It MATTERS to gay people, both symbolically and literally. This is an affirmation by the state of their existence and a guarantee to legal rights they clearly deserve and that everyone else already has.

Hey, Unimatrix0... there "could" be a God, we just can't prove it. Nor do some of us really care to.

WANKER!