The cost of empire
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Last week President Obama unveiled his record-spending 2010 budget proposal, which included a slight increase in funding for the Pentagon when compared with George Bush's budget of 2009. Though the specific details of the budget won't be released until April, the president has promised to increase troop recruitment while cutting "cold-war" weapons programs that have yet to be identified. But as the White House undergoes a reassessment of military priorities, there is little discussion about the future of the country's vast network of foreign military bases, a network that military expert Miriam Pemberton says includes roughly 1000 bases at a cost of $100 billion per year.
Miriam Pemberton is a Research Fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies. She heads a group that produces the annual “Unified Security Budget for the United States" and she is a former Director of the National Commission for Economic Conversion and Disarmament. She is co-editor, with William Hartung, of "Lessons from Iraq: Avoiding the Next War".
See Part 2 at:
http://current.com/items/89880751/why_are_us_bases_in_korea.htm
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silvanet
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Very good report...and consider, for example, the work of Chalmers Johnson, professor emeritus of the University of California at San Diego. He has extensive experience and has written three books on the consequences of American Empire, "Blowback," "The Sorrows of Empire," and "Nemesis: The Last Days of The American Republic." He wrote "Blowback" before 911, about as clear an explanation why any "terrorist" attack on the U.S. should have surprised noone.
P.S. This is very weird. I just got an email saying that someone responded to my comment??? There is no response either here or on the link to their profile. And, their supposed response seems to have been a wild jump to a conclusion not the least bit either implicit or explicit in my comment...I think this will be the last time I try to add instructive information...didn't realize that internet users apparently don't read books! And they certainly don't recognize authorities of any kind. They just blow whatever comes out their Arse.
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silvanet
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ampersand
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silvanet:
I, for one, liked your instructive reminder of Chalmers Johnson's work.
I'm certain there are thousands more who noted it as well.
Yes, there are quite a handful of aggressive ignorant twerps in this as most any other internet forum. Their promptness is only matched by their profound lack of knowledge and shallowness.
So it goes.
Don't let it discourage you from sharing a good thought or fact from time to time.
It won't do them any good, but there are indeed, others. - 3 years ago
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ampersand
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dmass5
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i know of 4 quite large bases that the military is getting rid of. Biggest is the Manas air force base (fuck them and there 2 beers a night) and that is used for transition soldiers going into the Kunar province of afghanistan.
I could see shutting down pointless bases, but not ones that are actually useful.
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dmass5
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JuliusBC
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If any politician is going to be able to figure out how to put this economic slippery slide into a checkmate, it would be Obama. He is seemingly the one and only.
Perhaps we should call him Neo. As Carmalite has stated: "We are in un-chartered territory and no one really knows what will stop this slide." The only politician I have seen aggressively following this "White Rabbit" down the rabbit hole is Obama.
Prior to Obama, all I ever saw was a bunch of scared little rats scurrying around looking for a pile of leaves to hide under as they wet themselves. Now that Obama has taken control, all I see from him is confidence, charisma, we can do this, let's get her done kind of attitude.
Many of the scared little rats, (most being republicans), have stepped up now to play their roles as Bane (Ian Bliss) with nothing but ill-will and nay-saying attitudes.
All I can say is: NeO-bama rock on!
In closing, which pill are you going to take, the red one or the blue one? Obama is offering the red one.
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JuliusBC
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carmalite
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This is worth keeping.
When I discovered how much the unnecessary war was costiing I called my Republican Senator and Representative. They have no problem with spending in Iraq. Now they are screaming about Obama trying to stimulate the economy, an economy that their abuse created. - 3 years ago
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carmalite
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JuliusBC
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The cost of the Iraq invasion. Here is a dollar counting clock! If you would like to see how much it is costing you and your community type in your info accordingly and you will be given your answer.
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JuliusBC
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Robroy1
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F___ the empire!
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Robroy1
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Robroy1
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This is extremely depressing!
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Robroy1
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Maitereya
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this is depressing
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Maitereya
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carmalite
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Maitereya:
Maitereya, and its anxiety provoking. I am having difficulty sleeping sometimes if I think about the USA being broke and all this mess too much in the evening.
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carmalite
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jubal
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America can no longer be the cop of the world. She needs to focus her energy on her own children for a while. It is a good thing to reduce the number of bases, war should not be our focus, peace making should.
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jubal
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carmalite
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We don't need an empire, we just need a decent economy and enough energy. Ron Paul is right about all that money wasted supporting troops all over the EU.
Its just supporting the military industrial comples. We need a good military and to be able to defend ourselves
but no more.
We are in this mess because of spending all on guns and nothing on America. - 3 years ago
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carmalite
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stopnoise
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Just imagine if all this money was administrated to the benefit of humans instead to their death. We got to do better than that. Just look at Current Radio News for the previous video;
http://current.com/items/89855061/changing_the_world_one_child_at_a_time.htm
Do not get fooled again America!!!;
http://current.com/items/89872937/the_who_won_t_get_fooled_again_live_8.htm
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unclecharlie
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Mo' Money!! Mo' Money!! Mo Money!!
Keep it up, Obama!! It is our God given mandate to Save the World!! Shit, if we wanted to save the World, we'll call on SuperMan, thankyewverymuch! Obama, pull your head out of your arse. We already have enough people that hate our guts! Go Ron Paul!! - 3 years ago
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JuliusBC
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unclecharlie:
Uncle Charlie, Father Obama knows best. Many in the world are already starting to favor America yet again. Once the Village Idiot was booted out, the world took a sigh of relief ,as did many Americans, and the long road to recovery began.
As to your racist comment of "Mo Money" I can only imagine how much your guts must churn to know there is a Black Man in the White house. He is the first politician I have seen that actually shows up for work and aggressively pursues a solution to the problems America is facing. He may not be perfect but he is light years ahead of the monkey we have caudaled for the past eight years.
The total dollar amount spent in Iraq is actually nearing $604 Billion dollars. This could quite easily quantify as MO MONEY! This $604 Billion dollars is tax payers money that yields zero return. Essentially it is like throwing money out the window as you drive through a forest fire.
I guess you could say Bush's first $604 billion stimulus package started in 2003 and is ongoing. His second $750 billion stimulus package was launched near the end of 2008. NOW that, is MO MONEY! What a Chimp!
For your entertainment, I have included a link that shows the actual dollar amount the Iraq invasion is costing per second. Check it out if you would like.
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home - 3 years ago
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JuliusBC
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carmalite
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unclecharlie:
UncleCharlie, you are once again drinking ideology and not looking at the disaster we face now.
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Do some reading. Conservative economists are actually saying that the stimulus is not big enough. We are in unchartered terrority and no one really knows what will stop the slide, but if we don't try, we ALL will go down with the crooks on Wall Street and the investment Bankers who caused this.Obama is capable, intellilgent, and better than anything we have had in the presidency in a long long time.
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carmalite
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unclecharlie:
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If any politician is going to be able to figure out how to put this economic slippery slide into a checkmate, it would be Obama. He is seemingly the one and only.
Perhaps we should call him Neo. As Carmalite has stated: "We are in un-chartered territory and no one really knows what will stop this slide." The only politician I have seen aggressively following this "White Rabbit" down the rabbit hole is Obama.
Prior to Obama, all I ever saw was a bunch of scared little rats scurrying around looking for a pile of leaves to hide under as they wet themselves. Now that Obama has taken control, all I see from him is confidence, charisma, we can do this, let's get her done kind of attitude.
Many of the scared little rats, (most being republicans), have stepped up now to play their roles as Bane (Ian Bliss) with nothing but ill-will and nay-saying attitudes.
All I can say is: NeO-bama rock on!
In closing, which pill are you going to take, the red one or the blue one? Obama is offering the red one.
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JuliusBC
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The U.S. Financial System Is Effectively Insolvent
There is a grave risk of a global L-shaped depression.
By Nouriel Roubini
Even with the $2 trillion of government support, most of these financial institutions are insolvent, as delinquency and charge-off rates are now rising at a rate--given the macro outlook--that means expected credit losses for U.S. financial firms will peak at $3.6 trillion. So, in simple words, the U.S. financial system is effectively insolvent.
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22168.htm
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This Is What A Financial Collapse Looks Like
Argentina's Economic Collapse
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Documentary on the events that led to the economic collapse of Argentina in 2001 which wiped out the middle class and raised the level of poverty to 57.5%. Central to the collapse was the implementation of neo-liberal policies which enabled the swindle of billions of dollars by foreign banks and corporations.
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22169.htm
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The Bottomless Bailout
By Ralph Nader
Does anybody in the federal government know or could know "who, what, where and when" of the massive, complex, vertical, horizontal, global collapse of Wall Street and its planetary tentacles in over 100 countries abroad? Step forward if you exist! Uncle Sam needs you!
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22171.htm
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America Loses 23,000 Jobs Every Day
Output suffers biggest slump in 25 years
By Gráinne Gilmore, Economics Correspondent
In a further sign of the struggles that are facing workers in America, the number of people forced into part-time work because their hours were cut or they were unable to find full-time work rose by 787,000 to 8.6 million last month. Yet despite the gloomy figures, analysts drew hope from evidence that the pace of job losses was easing.
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22170.htm - 3 years ago
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Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq "1,311,696"
www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
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Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America'sWar On Iraq 4,256
icasualties.org/oif/
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The War in Iraq Costs
$602,825,747,405
See the cost in your community
nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182 - 3 years ago
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JuliusBC
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Diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy!
A chimpy grin and a whole lot of illiterate babble and an unfounded war has alienated most of the world against the US. If America can re-establish a connection with all of their previous Allies, then we won't need as many military installations around the globe.
Like the old trite saying goes: "You can attract more bees with honey than you can with vinegar"! This was something the old administration had backwards.
Obama and Hillary understands this concept and is doing all they know to rectify the abortions created by chimpy and friends. If America wants to retain it's world power status, they need to wake up to the fact of needing to re-establish a solid footing at home and regain the trust of their allies abroad.
America is no-longer the all powerful that they used to be.
The problem is this: Many of the republicans are so drunken on their aristocratic ways and they cling to the impression that they can maintain this facade they have created. With this mentality they seem to do all they can to thwart any and all activities aimed at rectifying the current situations. They seem to be clueless to what they are actually playing with. Time is of the essence. The world will not set idly by waiting for America to figure this out.America needs to pull it's tentacles back in and rebuild at home. The ten plus billion dollars per month that is being spent in Iraq needs to come to an end. We get nothing in return for this expenditure. This has been going on for quite some time and has cost Americans more than they may ever know.
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JuliusBC
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Vierotchka
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JuliusBC:
There is absolutely NOTHING aristocratic about Republican ways.
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Vierotchka
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JuliusBC
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JuliusBC:
In my referral to republicans in their aristocratic ways I should perhaps clarify it to be more of that which was quite prominent prior to and during the French Revolution.
"Let them eat cake" is a statement widely attributed to Marie-Antoinette (1755-93), the Queen consort of Louis XVI. She is supposed to have said this when she was told that the French populace had no bread to eat.
The republicans have somewhat of this Kind of "let them eat cake mentality."
"Rule by the wealthy"! In actual practice, aristocrats' wealth allows them to portray their own virtues as the "best" ones. This tends to echo much of the mindsets of the republican party.
Their trickle down economics is where the little people get the crumbs that trickle down. This has yet again proven to be a bad policy for the masses. Many of the little people have and are still falling by the wayside as the powerful and the wealthy continue to thrive. The last eight years of republican dominance has practically brought America to it's knees!
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JuliusBC
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carmalite
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JuliusBC:
Vierotchka
Republicans want an underclass, an entrenched peasantry that they can use for cheap labor, that is why some say they are aristocrates. Feudal Lords would be more appropriate. - 3 years ago
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carmalite
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JuliusBC:
Yeah and democrats are your friends. Please stop acting like anyone in the government gives a shit about you or anyone else. Republicans want a rich vs poor dichotomy and the Democrats want to make everyone poor but equal. Either way everyone but the politicians loses.
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DouginLA
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cerealforeal
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Why?? Is that going to help the world become peaceful??
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cerealforeal
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pjacobs51
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Ron Paul has got it right, we can't afford to run an empire. We don't need all the military bases, and we certainly don't need the F22 Raptor when what we've already got can out fly anything on the planet.
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pjacobs51
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pjacobs51:
he's got it right about many a'things.
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itdango
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pjacobs51:
Sure lets stay with our existing technology, that way when the next war happens, and it will, we can be just like WWII all over again. Now I agree we need to be more frugal in the use of defense funds, but we do need to continue to develop new and better weapons.
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DouginLA
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Vierotchka
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Which one, specifically? There are twelve to fourteen large permanent US military bases in Iraq. Then, there is the huge American Embassy compound - a veritable city - which cost billions to build (using cheap labour) and houses a vast number of personnel, plus shops, swimming pools, etc.
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
It must pain you to not be an American.
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clownpuncher
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Vierotchka:
Its the embassy compound I am speaking of..I never really heard of any other permanent bases in Iraq but that one.....and it kills me to be american these days.....Though I stand strong knowing that the foreign policy of the government is not american in any way, and has not been since before I was born........
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regjoeschmo
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Vierotchka:
No, it does not pain me at all not to be an American - why on earth should it pain me?
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
Being American suck in so many ways. We have liberties and luxuries but at a very great cost, many people suffer on behalf of our comforts.....
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regjoeschmo
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how much does the permanent base in Iraq cost??
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regjoeschmo