Report: Israel nears attacking Iran
source: http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=87548§ionid=351020104
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Merge9
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Merge9:
Of course I am not a nuclear scientist - but I'm sure they would have a few advising them before bombing anything. No nation would be stupid enough to do some action that would create world wide radioactive fallout.
I too would feel for the Iranian people but you miss my point - give me a viable alternative to a potentially far worse scenario of a nuclear arms race or a nuclear war between Iran and Israel IF diplomacy fails. I eagerly await your solutions. - 3 years ago
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Conniepae
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Merge9:
I'm sorry, but Israel has nuclear weapons and they are not part of the Non-proliferation Treaty. We aren't suppose to fund countries who have nuclear weapons and are not in the non-proliferation treaty. Who is inspecting Israel?
America, Russia and other countries have had nuclear weapons as a deterrent to nuclear war for centuries. Iran didn't invade a country using fixed facts and phony documents. WE DID! Facts matter.
We should follow a peaceful path before we judge others. I'm sick of countries portrayed as victims, while they are busy killing others. White phosphorus was used in Gaza. I'm against the use of white phosphorus used in war too.
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Conniepae
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Samiammi
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Merge9:
Here's a question to all the US citizens - If Iran had nuclar weapons, would we also be in danger? Now be realistic - could there be another cold war?
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Samiammi
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Venom7
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Merge9:
No we would not be in danger if Iran had nuclear weapons.
North Korea has nuclear weapons, we're not at war with them...
Gee I wonder why....
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Venom7
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Merge9:
Venom gets it. Countries that can defend themselves don't get invaded. With all the threats coming their way, what self-respecting leader wouldn't pursue nuclear armament?
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GoliathandDavid
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cerealforeal
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Oh fuck, Israel and the U.S. are still that primitive? I guess some people never change.
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cerealforeal
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Samiammi
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cerealforeal:
In order to be a free nation, you must be able to protect yourself and put yourself in a position where you are better off than your enemies. This makes sense right?
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Samiammi
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Bahai144
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cerealforeal:
Duhhh "samiammi" no actually it doesn't. Unless you're playing a video game.
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Bahai144
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elementaljim
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Man o man, this place stinks of neocons!
If any IMPROVEMENT is going to be made it will have to start with diplomacy, NOT violence.The US is guilty of war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Israel is guilty of war crimes against the people of Palestine.
Do they need to add to a criminal resume?The Mid East is a toxic mess. Don't stir it up.
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elementaljim
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elementaljim:
Isn't one of the nations within that toxic mess attempting to create the most destructive technology known to man considered stirring it up already?
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Merge9
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Samiammi
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elementaljim:
They've been trying to kill eachother forever and are just looking for more effective ways to do it. Israel may as well act; people like you are constantly supressing them - they are bombed daily and due to the small size of their country, are forced to enlist at the age of 14. Its not an "Attack" its a pre-emptive strike. They're risking a war on multiple fronts now - Its a bad move, but they have no other option - its better than one big nuke in the center of their country. This is an act of desperation.
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Samiammi
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Merge9
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Clearly Israel will not just sit back and allow a radical Islamic country dedicated to it's destruction to make some nuclear weapons. If I was in their position I would not either. Nobody seems to have another solution at present and the effects of the minor sanctions so far are not stopping Iran. So what is the answer? Sit back and watch Iran get Nukes - not an attractive proposition particularly to Israel or attempt to destroy them - again not attractive but from the view of Israel it is easy to see why this is more attractive. I think they accept the fact that most the muslim world wants them wiped from the earth so they need to protect themselves in whatever way they can whether the world likes it or not.
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Merge9:
Iran is not dedicated to the destruction of Israel - only those who are retarded enough to believe such gross anti-Iran propaganda think so.
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Vierotchka
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Israel is smart to have waited this long. They simply allowed the enemy to add every last little nut and bolt and technology as they could.
If a killer comes to you and says he will kill you and you go the police (the United Nations) and you say, he wants to kill me. The UN says you deserve to be put on trial for your war crimes and says nothing about the three years of missile attacks which provoked the Gaza attacks. Well, you begin to realize that there are no police. So you face the reality that you will have to kill the killer before he kills you. It is to be done without one penny from the U.S..
1. The whole world is in danger from the terrorists. 2. The whole world knows that Iran supports and pays for terror all over the earth.
3. In a simple math equation, that means that Iran is endangering the whole world.
Got guts? - 3 years ago
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Abraham99:
Yes, but when does the terror victims change and become the terrorists in another country? The attack on 9/11 scared the shit out of me. Then we scared the shit out of ordinary Iraqi's. The children of Iraq have had to live with our terrorism.
I don't think attacking Iraq was a solution to 9/11. We did not hold George W. accountable for using fixed facts and phony documents to "Shock and Awe" Iraq. Are we all guilty? Should another country feel compelled to punish us for the actions of our President?
Diplomacy is the answer. The Bush administration has not been held accountable. Why should we judge other leaders when we haven't held ours accountable? It's time to 'move along' to peace. We need diplomacy today!
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Conniepae
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Abraham99:
We support terrorists that carry out bombings in Iran...
This war shit just has to stop... it only helps the few that make money and get power out of it... the rest pay for it.
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Prijedor
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Abraham99:
We tried peace during WW2 - Lazefair - what did it do? It left us vulnerable to the only military attack on US soil besides the initial foundation of our country. Peace is something to strive for. Peace was the cold war, when everyone was afraid to fire.
Mother Theresa is the only spokesperson for peace who made a difference and wasn't murdered. While it seems like a beautiful thing, man is incapable in its current state - Go to another country - see if you can even spend a week there without accidentally offending someone - for instance, you wear shoes in the house when you're in Mexico, and you take them off in the US. There are not only cultural boundaries, but political boundaries - Is peace active? If so, was freeing Iraq from Sodom moral - or peaceful? What about blood diamonds, drug wars, human trafficking - how do you control greed, or power? - Is it peaceful to steal from the rich and give to the poor, or do you let the rich be rich and the poor be poor?
Peace can only exist in isolation on earth. This sounds horrible, and its difficult to admit, but there are too many contradictions that are required to create “global” peace.
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Samiammi
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Abraham99:
@ Samiammi
Im not sure where to begin... where did you learn history? First off what is lazefare? If you meant laissez faire then you are totally off seeing as how laissez faire is an economic term. Second, the attack on pearl harbor was in no way shape or form the second attack on U.S. soil. Ever hear of the war of 1812? Third the Cold War was NOT peace, hence the war in its name. We fought the Korean War(technically not a war) and the Vietnam War(again technically not a war) during the Cold War and we did in fact kill Russian soldiers in both conflicts. Fear does not make for lasting peace.
As for your views on peace i actually tend to agree. Nations are concerned only with their own safety and well being and therefore peace is generally not an option. I do see a time of relative peace at some point in the future and a time when all the peoples of the world will be united under the banner of a world government but man is not quite ready for that yet.
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fun_size
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Why would someone really want a country to be a smoldering ash heap? What's the up side? Why?
It may be lack of good brain cells. Something is missing in their brains. Compassion? Defects come in all forms, some are addressed and some aren't.Maybe if George W. were held accountable for Iraq, these armchair quarterbacks who supported him would feel some shame, instead of just moving along to the next war.
Many who post for war with Iran are the same ones who posted in favor of George W.'s war of choice. They don't want George W.'s crimes investigated, they want us to move along. No wonder they want us to move along, they want more war.Warmongers! Sad! Sad! Sad!
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Conniepae
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Conniepae:
Certainly a person opf peace such as yourself, called out just as loudly when Iran said that Israel should be wiped off the map.
Therefore, because you would certainly have protested against that and the attack on Gaza and the three years of missles being shot at Israel which provoked the Gaza attacks, therefore, I agree with you. Peace is needed. - 3 years ago
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Conniepae:
"Certainly a person opf peace such as yourself, called out just as loudly when Iran said that Israel should be wiped off the map." Certainly she would have if a) Ahmadinejad had actually said that and b) Iran possessed the means to facilitate a pre-emptive attack.
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Conniepae:
To "abraham99" and anyone else who believes the propagandizing U.S. corporately owned media: the Iranian President never said those words in that context, that was a deliberately incorrect translation of what he said which had nothing whatsoever to do with wiping Israel off the map. The reason this absolute lie has been perpetuated in the media is to bend the American mindset in the direction of having a false and imaginary reason to make war on Iran. Consider yourself effectively bent along with all those who swallow this lie of deliberately bad translation. It's no more true than the lie they had the little girl who was the Kuwaiti ambassadors niece tell congress about Iraqi soldiers tossing babies from incubators in Kuwait in order to bend the minds of congress and the American people into thinking there was a reason to go to war with Iraq during the first Bush regime.
Their talking points and buzzwords are all lies which the duped American populace happily swallows and follows. Wise up children. - 3 years ago
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Bahai144
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Conniepae:
Wow Bahai, did you actually infer I believed the mistranslation after pointing out that it wasn't what Ahmadinejad said in the first place? From now on read a response before you start typing.
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GoliathandDavid
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Bahai144
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Conniepae:
Hey "goliathanddavid", sorry, my bad! I didn't scroll up far enough when posting to get the right name. I'll edit.
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Bahai144
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Well, you know if the Israelis even do a half ass job, Iran will still be a smouldeing ash heap....
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unclecharlie:
Why would you want Iran to become a "smoldering ash heap"?
Does Israel need another conflict? - 3 years ago
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elementaljim
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unclecharlie:
Elementaljim,
Unclecharley says nothing about wanting Iran to become a "smoldering ash heap". Also, are you going to reply to every comment in this pod?
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HikoSeijero
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elementaljim
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unclecharlie:
re-hikoseijero.." are you going to reply to every comment in this pod?"
Simple answer for simple question, No..
3 or 4 out of 150+...DuhHave a problem with that, math whiz?
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elementaljim
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clayjj05 [removed]
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Dmass is right. Time for our boys to fuck these pussys up
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elementaljim
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clayjj05:
You may want to loosen your collar, it is cutting off the blood supply to your head.
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elementaljim
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clayjj05:
clayjj05
I assume you are in active duty in Iraq now or Afghanistan? Right? You are putting your precious body and mind where you put your ideology?Or are you like GW and Cheney? Send the young and poor to fight unnecessary wars instead of trying to solve problems diplomatically?
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carmalite
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clayjj05:
carmalite i am active duty so how bout you stfu guy.
how bout that
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Conniepae
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OMG more armchair quarterbacks cheering war. Not again! If Israel wants to unilaterally attack Iran. That is what should happen. They should be on their own. We can't afford to finance our own wars. Our tax dollars should not be used to fight their war of choice.
Enough is enough! It's time for the war mongers to go to their armchairs in their dark rooms and play Play Station and satisfy their taste for war. President Obama should let Israel know, we are not going to war with Iran!
Not our money and not our weapons.
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Conniepae:
I want GW and Dick the Cheney held accountable for their blood lust and for destroying our economy.
I would like to see these members of the American aristocrat mafia in jail.
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carmalite
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Conniepae:
kuffar, your comment was the dumbist thing I have heard today! We are already at war with Iran? That's just stupid spin!
** SHAME ON ME -- I LET THE LITTLE GREEN MONSTER IN ME COME OUT AND POSTED AN INAPPROPRIATE COMMENT. I HAVE REMOVED IT. I DO THINK IT IMPORTANT TO ACCEPT MY SHAME. **
My comment was censored. Kudos to current staff. If we all let the little green monsters out, it wouldn't be the great site of diverse ideas. It would be chaos. I appreciate the censorship, my comment was posted in anger.
I tried to stop the lead up to the Iraq war. I was SCREAMING. No one would listen. I feel passionately about the casual use of war talk.
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Conniepae
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Conniepae:
Bush didn't kill the economy with the war in Iraq... that only cost 680 Billion$ - look it up if you don't believe me. Not to mention that war stimulated production, so in part keeping some people in business - its not like he was handing out billion dollar bailouts... O'Bama has already spend over 2 trillion - where has it gone? Don't be blind
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Conniepae:
Samiammi, come on, get real. President Obama didn't create the mess. George W. Bush caused the mess we are in today. Large sums of money wouldn't be needed if he hadn't ignored, or perpetuated the problem. Ya know, his base, the haves and have mores.
You can't seriously believe President Obama is at fault for our failing economy? The market didn't go down due to President Obama. He is doing what he can to revive the economy. Do you have an answer which doesn't require an influx of cash?
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Conniepae:
It is a culmination of event guys. Rome wasn't built in a day, and nor did it fall in one day. It was a long and painful death.
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Conniepae:
sorry but it was the bush admin who gave away the 2.5 trillion sight unseen to the banking industry then sat on their hands until after the Obama took office so they could blame the Democrats for the financial disaster. Funny how many people attribute something done months ago with a president who has been in office seven weeks.
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kuffar:
does the prospect of nuclear war seem appealing to you? Because as soon as one nuke flies, nobody is safe, even if you live in Europe or the U.S. Israel isn't prepared for a real offensive. Its only prepared for the ultimate defense, which is nuclear warfare on a global scale.
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kuffar:
Are you under a Dr's care?
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kuffar:
wtf... why would you think that
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kuffar:
WHAT is a fact about nuclear war? That the bombs exist? That they can be used? yes. Obviously. But when you hate a people based on what they think, as much as you do muslims and as much as muslims do westerners, your bound to spark the flares of emotions among nations that make nuclear war less preventable.
First, you compared nuclear war with death, which would mean its inevitable. Then you said it can be prevented, which isn't like death at all. Seeing as how you said the sooner the better, it was completely relevant that I ask about nuclear war because Israel possesses nuclear weapons. And i dont know why "peaceniks" would ihibit an actual stop to wars, if they're names cleary mean "peace". I'm not into the whole "right" and "left" jargon that the media vomits into people brains. People are more complicated than what TV makes us think. And frankly, this isn't the 1960's anymore. We should stop giving shut a shit when broke ass nations over seas have crazy guys they call "leaders" spewing 2000 year old bullshit to create haters overseas and at home.
I got tired of hating a long time ago. It gives you time too see how STUPID apologists for war are.
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dmass5
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hell yea. maybe this time us soldiers will get into a real war.
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dmass5:
You're kidding, right?
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elementaljim
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dmass5:
If you are not kidding, then you have a serious problem.
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dmass5:
i love when fools expose themselves.....
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dmass5:
I dont know why i feel the need to speak for dmass but what i think hes saying is that a war in Iran would at least be more like a conventional war rather than fighting insurgents as in Iraq and Afghanistan. Right?
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dmass5:
dmass5 - only a dumbass would say something like that
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dmass5:
funsize is correct. going out on patrols and get shot at for 2 minutes is nothing. the longer battles show who is there for there country and who is there for the college money.
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dmass5:
Dmass, it won't take soldiers, only one nuclear weapon.
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dmass5:
The real war will show us the difference between the people who profit from it sitting at home and the brainwashed cannon fodder like dmass who will die uselessly.
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mik661
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akamaial [removed]
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This is indeed pending dark times, no matter what you faith.!
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akamaial:
akamaial, this is insanity. People are acting like lemmings jumping off a cliff one after the other.
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akamaial:
Its a pre-emptive strike. Israel would be at peace if they weren't surrounded by idiots claiming God condones war. Its not about territory, its about right to life. Besides, if this is a sign of "dark times to come" then they are necessary for the natural rights of man - or... the right to live without fear of imminent demise.
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akamaial:
Sammiami, I agree with your statement. I would be willing to have it all out once and for all to arrive at the ultimate solution for peace. But fundamentally, too many people are not willing to give up their position. That is the most difficult thing to change.
One can only hope to build bridges of understanding by finding things in common; suffering would be a good place to start.
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akamaial:
Funny akamail, I see only a bright and beautiful future from this.
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akamaial:
Bahai144, let there be peace between us, but I must say that as righteous that you feel about your faith and the outcome you seemingly believe that you are privy to and the comfort that you derive from such self assurance, it is nothing more or less than your "faithful perception". You have no more clue than any of us...& that's the bottom line..
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akamaial:
Well that's what everyone in opposition to the Revelation of Baha'u'llah says even as the predictions and prophecies become realities right before their eyes and even intrude profoundly into their very own lives as in 9/11 which is only one example of many which are well documented on our websites and many other places not at all affiliated with our Cause. These are a matter of public record for those who wish to actually know the truth. I/we don't bother to spoon feed the masses we point the way to the wellspring of truth and leave the seekers to themselves while remaining available for continued consultation, even though the majority don't want the solution to the problems of our times.
"As it was in the days of Noah." - 3 years ago
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Bahai144
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Bahai144
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This is the next major step to be taken in the battle for global hegemony. All part of the plan which will establish the man-made Totalitarian New World Order which is the necessary precursor to the God-given World Order of Baha'u'llah.
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Bahai144:
The New World Order will not begin until Israel agrees to a peace agreement with the rest of the world. This will not be possible until Islam is brought to submission, which may possibly include military action by Israel. It ancient writings, it is said that "Damascus will seize to exist in one hour of one day. That great city will remain desolate". This may eventually include a majority of the Muslim world.
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Bahai144:
That one hour is actually the one hour long thermonuclear war prophesied in many Holy Books, among them the Revelation in The Bible. This one hour thermonuclear war will engulf at least the entire northern hemisphere. It's what the Book of Revelation calls Armageddon.
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Bahai144
