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Protestors say "We are the 48 million Americans who cannot access health care today!"

ANP: Congressman Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) led a protest Monday outside the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Washington, site of the 2009 national conference of America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), a trade group for the health insurance industry.
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  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  
    • Some college or high school teacher giving out false info somewhere? Or a book published and not edited with an eye to acurrate information?
      My daughter had a history teacher that was teaching misinformation at high school level.. And of course he was tenured. She continued to enlighten him throughout the school year with multiple examples of accurate info. He tried to slip her a C for the course. She called him on it. And he had to admited she had earned an A+.

    • 3 years ago
  • holyshiite
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      holyshiite  
    • V, stick to your day job. Such amateur analysis is leading you to false conclusions that you feel the insidious need to share. All treaties must be ratified by Congress to become the law, not just a signature by some rep o the Executive branch. So funny.

      No President, including Carter or Clinton, has even bother to send the UDHR to the Senate. It wouold be DOA, like your analysis.

    • 3 years ago
  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  
    • Vierotchka, the info you quoted is not in the United States of America Constitution. It is from the UN or UNESCO constitution. Before the constitution can be changed every state must ratify it. The only rights we have are the 'right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness'.
      I've looked through my Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of rights and don't see those you mention in their contents..

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • nursediesel:

      Any treaty or agreement signed by the US automatically becomes the Supreme Law of the Land as per the US constitution (Article Six, Paragraph 2), therefore the Universal Declaration of Human Rights became the Supreme Law of the Land the minute it was signed by the US - thus the right to health care is indeed a right of every American man, woman and child.

    • 3 years ago
  • holyshiite
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      holyshiite  
    • nursediesel:

      V, stick to your day job. Such amateur analysis is leading you to false conclusions that you feel the insidious need to share. All treaties must be ratified by Congress to become the law, not just a signature by some rep o the Executive branch. So funny.

      No President, including Carter or Clinton, has even bother to send the UDHR to the Senate. It wouold be DOA, like your analysis.

    • 3 years ago
  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  
    • I have a problem with letting our wasteful government run my healthcare.
      Yes, I think the majors insurance system is running rampant. But neither one is the right answer. If each one of us was responsible regarding our own health care the costs would come down.
      See the Bargaining down healthcare blog.
      That's a start. Government won't fix it. It screwed everything up with Diagnostic Related Group's in the 80's.
      It'll take a major change in us, the people, to fix the system. Check out the government run veterans care.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • nursediesel:

      There is a widespread misconception, which you seem to share, that universal health care means that the government will run the health care - this is not the case at all. What it means is that the government will ensure that all people are covered by a health care insurance, that all people will have access to health care no matter what their income may be.

    • 3 years ago
  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  
    • nursediesel:

      Sorry, Vierotchka, but the government will have conyrol over it in a Big way. They have to use our tax money to start an office to oversee and make sure that the mandate is enforced. And they will most certainly benefit from it, in more ways than you can imagine.

    • 3 years ago
  • privateibber
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      privateibber  
    • What I wouldn't give for a real discussion on health care.
      I mean a give and take and perhaps a solution.
      Or two solutions. Or three. I don' tlike the mudslinging either.

    • 3 years ago
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • DouginLA, another brain washed idiot spouting right wing hand book disinformation about Canada's healthcare system. Quit your fucking lying asshole and try and understand this, 68% of American's want single payer healthcare system or universal healthcare. We won the election and it's time for your ilk to leave my country and live somewhere else if you don't like democracy.

    • 3 years ago
  • DouginLA
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      DouginLA  
    • LOL this is yet another post by people who think the government and the country owe them something. Nowhere in the US Constitution does it promise healthcare. To scream for socialized medicine is to beg for mediocrity. All men are not created equal society just tries to force them to be. The United States is not a welfare state and it does not need to be one. The tools are there for everyone in this country to live a healthy, happy and productive life. If you are to lazy to go out and do so that is your fault and it is not my job to take care of you. If you do not like it, move to Canada and see why so many of them come to the US for medical care.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • DouginLA:

      The US constitution actually states that:

      "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." (Article Six)

      The US is a signatory to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (which was largely crafted by the USA) which states that:

      Article 25.

      * (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
      * (2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

      Therefore, by virtue of Article Six of the Constitution, Americans are indeed promised health-care to all citizens.

    • 3 years ago
  • privateibber
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      privateibber  
    • The only people that will be able to get coverage will be a list of very healthy, never had a thing wrong with them, individuals. PRE EXISTING CONDITION is the operative term. I would also want to open an insurance company if all I had to insure were 10 year olds who never even had the flu.
      BP normal stats were 120/80. They changed it to 110/70. This means that anyone who thought they were :"normal" could easily switch insurance and get turned down.
      It all started going bad with Health South. After many scandals and collusion issues, they now claim to be honest and upright.
      If there is one more thing that gets to survive putting profit over life, we won't have much left. It's quite sad.
      When you go to a surgical center that is owned by the doctor who sent you there...well that could be a bit sticky. Or not.
      As most things, it is difficult to find the root cause of anything. Too much information and little factual evidence that can be pieced together for a common good solution.
      Yes, he needed surgery. And you know what? The cost of the surgery and the cost of the doctor's new kitchen remodel were EXACTLY the same. Amazing how well it worked out.

    • 3 years ago
  • unclematt
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      unclematt  
    • Give em' HELL!
      We in America pay the MOST for the LEAST!
      Lets get with the program my fellow Americans!. The 48 million without health insurance cost the system up to twice as much as if they were covered by a national plan. These people crowd the emergency rooms with their non-emergency ailments while the rest of us pay considerably more in premiums to compensate for the difference.

    • 3 years ago
  • holyshiite
  • Vierotchka
  • neocongo
  • holyshiite
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      holyshiite  
    • holyshiite:

      LOL! Neocongo, I've used Vierotchka's dismissive comment to me on the UBS story twice on her posts and the insults have come flying! Four words to provoke such a stir? Funny.

      Antway, I'd love to post a few facts and have a nice give and take. But, why bother? I know that you are up to the task but he immature, non-American, anti_American, driveby slammers are everywhre.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • neocongo
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      neocongo  
    • Medicare and Medicaid cover the elderly, the very poor, and the disabled; the people most likely to need healthcare. The insurance industries are left with the remaining healthiest portion of Americans and THEY STILL CAN'T FUCKING DO IT.

      Nationalized healthcare is the only answer.

    • 3 years ago
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • Health insurance providers, thats a joke they are health care insurance deniers and they are pigs profiting from others medical needs. It's time to throw these people under the bus, and no need to here from them anymore unless they can reduce their overhead to 3% like medicare or else get out of the way.

    • 3 years ago
  • tanamurph
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      tanamurph  
    • Despite what Republicans dribble with their usual fear talk, we should socialize health care. Interesting that our country does not provide the best health care, but that the countries that socialize do. It is just unethical, unChristian to make profit based on health care. More denials means more profit. Don't we have enough good minds in our country like other countries to figure out how to do it? The health care 'industry' lobbyists and Republicans will scream loudly because it could cut into profits.

    • 3 years ago
  • freedom08
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      freedom08  
    • people over profit--I agree with all my heart---
      --however it is very clear that it is still PROFIT over people!!!
      The way it is now it may be some time before the Obama administration gets to this--a little too much on their plate at the moment--
      give it some more time though--i still have faith--our new leaders have already made some key moves in the right direction

    • 3 years ago
  • pjacobs51
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  
    • Healthcare should not be determined by how much money you have. Who can afford an extra $400-600/month just to convince the doctors to actually treat you properly??

    • 3 years ago
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