Community | March 16, 2009 | 25 comments

The world's first climate change refugees: Papua New Guinea

source: http://www.france24.com/en/20090315-world-first-climate-change-refugees-papua-new-guinea-car...

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JanforGore
So now it begins. Papua New Guinea, Tuvalu, Kiribati, the Maldives, Vanuatu... Names of islands that are now experiencing the effects of sea level rise that threatens the existence of life. However, we won't see this on the MSM, because to report on this would then have people actually seeing that climate change/global warming is indeed happening. And in the case of the Carteret Islands, where will the people go? The man quoted in this article stated it should be the industrialized nations that caused this that have to pay for it.

What do you think?

This is a serious problem we have to plan for. Imagine if this were Bangladesh. Where are we going to place all of the climate refugees from these most vulnerable locations? Will the US take some? China? How could Australia when it is now suffering the effects of it as well and water resources are already strained?

Another report that came out last week stated that the US is woefully unprepared for the effects of climate change. California would be a good example of that right now. Why does it seem to me as though we are all in slow motion as this begins to play out? We were warned about this years ago. And still we sit waiting for a meeting in Copenhagen where a group of elitist world leaders will sit and continue to bicker and hash this and that out to best suit their own agendas, while islands sink.

Unbelievable.
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25 comments // The world's first climate change refugees: Papua New Guinea

  • appy
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      appy  

    • Despite the headline, I believe that the first refugees of climate change actually existed around 10,000 years ago when the last ice age ended (search for "doggerland"). Since that time, sea levels have risen approximately 120 metres!

      Personally, I am not yet convinced about our influence on the climate, but I am fairly certain that it was not our fault that the ice formed and subsequently melted!

      As an aside, I have recently come across this article - http://www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerintervie...

      It gives an alternative expert opinion on sea levels.

    • 2 years ago
  • Kepano
  • jfill
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      jfill  

    • if your computer isn't made of cardboard and running on solar or wind power stfu with the wining please and thanks.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • jfill:

      It isn't what you've got sometimes it's how you use it. Maybe people like you should then be the ones to "stfu". Getting sick of your droning about others who care.

    • 2 years ago
  • specialk82
  • specialk82
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      specialk82  

    • this is bad. I think we will see a lot of people die. I think it's so bad for us (not me) to be in denial about this. If we can do something now we must before it's too late and the movie walE becomes a reality except we won't be able to escape to space. We're all fucked

    • 2 years ago
  • specialk82
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      specialk82  

    • this is bad. I think we will see a lot of people die. I think it's so bad for us (not me) to be in denial about this. If we can do something now we must before it's too late and the movie walE becomes a reality except we won't be able to escape to space. We're all fucked

    • 2 years ago
  • galwayman
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      galwayman  

    • Jan,
      You are right if we continue down this path of destruction then planning must take place for the people displaced by global warming! if by 2050 vast parts of this planet are underwater where do the people go? Some of the fools who have posted think we are nuts! global warming is false its a plot to suck tax dollars out of people! Apathy and stupidity together make for bad combination! Bet these same people litter without thinking,drive the biggest gas guzzlers,and use the most of our resources! We are talking hundreds of millions of people at least if those parts of the world on or near the ocean flood by 2050! as we will soon reach a population of 9 billion people and by 2050 a lot more then that where would all these people go? It seems to me it would be far easier to change our ways and attempt to reverse the process then it would be to relocated all these people!

    • 2 years ago
  • uponrooftops
  • opit
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      opit  
    • galwayman:

      I've seen enough intelligent analysis to realize the 'deniers' may be right about one thing : the process is irreversible. The easiest way for me to share information is at my Index : Opit's LinkFest!, where I cull best info onto my Links page. Or e-mail opit@operamail.com
      Do not take this to mean I don't think Climate Change real : just that the description may include overwhelming natural processes.

    • 2 years ago
  • PirateSauce
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      PirateSauce  

    • The poster has it all wrong. The media will stop at nothing to make us think global warming is our fault. IT'S NOT. It's a worldwide scam to bring on hundreds of new taxes for us to pay in the name of saving the world.

      Anyone that believes in MAN MADE global warming has been duped by the corporations and the politicians that do their dirty work.

      DENY IGNORANCE

    • 2 years ago
  • jfill
  • uponrooftops
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • PirateSauce:

      What's the matter? The evidence now too overwhelming that something is happening? Don't think your words are going to overrule the thousands of scientists (which I am assuming you are not) that have corrobrated the part of man in the exacerbation of this. Don't worry however, you can continue to be a lazya^s who just sits and whines. There are others who will be willing to pick up the slack for the minority of knuckledraggers who are too comfortable in their denial to see beyond their noses.

    • 2 years ago
  • clownpuncher
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • clownpuncher:

      The only thing sinking is your credibility. And this isn't about Al Gore, though it is obvious flatearthers will continue to deny this until they are treading water just so they don't have to think he was right, because he is THEIR obsession. It's so sad. I think the people who live there know better than you.

    • 2 years ago
  • clownpuncher
  • notonourwatch
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      notonourwatch  

    • Not the first evidence - look at Alaskan Islands - now under water - town submerged - locals forced off what was once their land. London's table water (formerly well below beneath limestone) is rising periodically flooding the transit tunnels, they're building wells to releave the problem. Ocean PH levels changing as is salinity. Not only are bees disapearing, so are milliworms and ocean plankton - disruption of food chain fast to follow. And that's not all - it goes on and on...

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • idealist
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      idealist  

    • how is anyone gonna pay for sinking islands? people will eventually forget there were ever islands there is the first place. except the people that lived there of course....

    • 2 years ago
  • galwayman
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      galwayman  

    • An entire culture is already being wiped out here! Global warming and the flooding that will result has already begun and unless we begin now to make people see that it is up to us to force a change in how we live our race will die! our so called leaders don't care cause their bosses the elite don't care they will continue to pollute and rape this planet unless we the people FORCE change! organize and educate! hold demonstrations! we need a revolution or it will truly be ALL over!

    • 2 years ago
  • opit
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • opit:

      Yes, it is, and with a population of over 153 million people with just over 33% of them 0-14 years of age, this does not bode well. That is why this is such an important issue. In light of this, we need to address this in a global plan that would at the very least work on adaptation measures and relocation plans. Beginning to work on where hundreds of millions of climate refugees would go will be a daunting task, that would based on human nature more than likely lead us to war as well as famine. And that's not to be a scaremonger, that is simply looking at reality of the future if we continue to be unprepared for the effects of climate change.

    • 2 years ago
  • opit
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      opit  
    • opit:

      JanforGore
      I have my own weblog and have started posting items at Care2 - a community with opinions more closely mirroring your own : I've even been featured your posts as news items and at your personal blog.. I'm not suggesting you ease up on the good work you are doing here, as it's an effective way to present information - but sometimes knowing one is not the only 'voice in the wilderness' can be an immense boost.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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