Community | March 22, 2009 | 35 comments

More women going from jobless to topless

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As a bartender and trainer at a national restaurant chain, Rebecca Brown earned a couple thousand dollars in a really good week. Now, as a dancer at Chicago’s Pink Monkey gentleman’s club, she makes almost that much in one good night.

The tough job market is prompting a growing number of women across the country to dance in strip clubs, appear in adult movies or pose for magazines like Hustler.

Employers across the adult entertainment industry say they’re seeing an influx of applications from women who, like Brown, are attracted by the promise of flexible schedules and fast cash. Many have college degrees and held white-collar jobs until the economy soured.

“You’re seeing a lot more beautiful women who are eligible to do so many other things,” said Gus Poulos, general manager of New York City’s Sin City gentleman’s club. He said he got 85 responses in just one day to a recent job posting on Craigslist.

The transition to the nightclub scene isn’t always a smooth one — from learning to dance in five-inch heels to dealing with the jeers of some customers.

Some performers said they were initially so nervous that only alcohol could calm their nerves.

“It is like giving a speech, but instead of imagining everyone naked, you’re the one who’s naked,” Brown, 29, said.

Eva Stone, a 25-year-old dancer at the Pink Monkey, said dealing with occasional verbal abuse from patrons requires “a thick skin.”

Makers of adult films cautioned that women shouldn’t rush into the decision to make adult movies without considering the effect on their lives.

“Once you decide to be an adult actress, it impacts your relationship with everyone,” said Steven Hirsch, co-chairman of adult film giant Vivid Entertainment Group. “Once you make an adult film, it never goes away.”

The women at the Pink Monkey say dancing at a strip club might not have been their first career choice, but they entered the business with their eyes wide open. The job gives them more control and flexibility than sitting in a cubicle, and “it’s easy, it’s fun and all of us girls ... look out for each other,” Brown said.

In this economy, “desperate measures are becoming far more acceptable,” said Jonathan Alpert, a New York City-based psychotherapist who’s had clients who worked in adult entertainment.

For some, dancing is temporary, a way to pay for college loans or other bills. Others say they’ve found their niche.

Dancers at the upscale Rick’s Caberet clubs in New York City and Miami can make $100,000 to $300,000 a year — in cash — even with the economic downturn, club spokesman Allan Priaulx said.

Priaulx said 20 to 30 women a week are applying for jobs at the New York club, double the number of a year ago.

Rhode Island’s Foxy Lady held a job fair Saturday, seeking to fill about 35 positions for dancers, masseuses, bartenders and bouncers. The Providence Journal reported that more than 150 job seekers showed up to apply for work at the strip club. Foxy Lady co-owner Tom Tsoumas said a recent promotion to cut prices helped the club regain business lost due to the bad economy, forcing it to hire more employees.

Still, analysts say, the industry isn’t immune to the economic recession. Business is down an estimated 30 percent across all segments, including adult films, gentleman’s clubs, magazines and novelty shops, said Paul Fishbein, president of AVN Media Network, an adult entertainment company that has a widely distributed trade publication and an award show.

“In the past, people have said this industry is recession-proof,” said Eric Wold, director of research for financial services firm Merriman Curhan Ford. “I definitely don’t see that; maybe recession-resistant.”
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35 comments // More women going from jobless to topless

  • anilk
  • Agorful
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      Agorful  
    • You know that compounding interest thing about a penny compounded for a month = 10.7 Million?

      Well, humans have been up to no good since the beginning of our time on the planet. No big deal at first, few fires here and there, few fur coats for the honeys. But now it seems like were on day 26 or so of that month and the compounding thing is really getting huge.

      I just feel like tomorrow's news will be an enormous compounding result of yesterday's sins. And before the month is out, our time may be up.

      But that's just me.

    • 3 years ago
  • mik661
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      mik661  
    • Say you were a successful young lady or at least had some education with a bright future. Now every interview you go to has a hundred people are more experienced than you and desperate for work. Would you rather A: go work at best buy for starvation wages grinding through swing shift schedules or B: work 3 or 4 nights a week making mad cash. Hmm. I think that the naysayers might just be fugly and are jealous.

    • 3 years ago
  • cybexg
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      cybexg  
    • Years ago I managed (in a different capacity - she had a normal day job) a woman who had chrone's (sp?). She was very beautiful and stripped to pay her medical bills. I saw nothing wrong in her.

      Also, I've dated someone that was in Playboy. While not a rocket scientist, I saw nothing wrong her.

      For a number of years, my sister was a model (yes, real model - as in cat walks, etc.)

      I guess I don't see the harm in stripping - as long as the girls are safe and fully understand their actions.

    • 3 years ago
  • Found_Avenue
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      Found_Avenue  
    • A friend of mine danced at a strip club to work her way through college, but gave it up after she was doing a lap-dance and the guy came. nothing sobers you up like getting a stranger's jizz on your thigh.

      It's not worth it, girls.

    • 3 years ago
  • Eleganza
  • Eleganza
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      Eleganza  
    • I have often found the difference in attitude between a young man with few options who chooses a career in boxing and a woman with few options who chooses to strip. The young men who get into the ring are trained for and EXPECTED to so seriously injure one another that one eventually is beaten until he is unconscious..... and they are hailed as warriors, macho etc.....yet the young women who get on stage and do nothing more than arouse the men watching them are seen as victims of a cruel, depraved society...think about that and then draw your own conclusions

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • Everyone has different standards I suppose.

      In my humble opinion, there are too many whores in our society as it is, so I always try to set people on the right path for them long-term rather than encourage their own short-sighted self-destruction in the pursuit of easy money or fun.

      I have been let down a lot, but I admire myself for trying to do the right thing and make the world a better place even if it backfires at my expense sometimes.

      That decision to take off your clothes and arouse strangers for money instantly turns a women from potential dreamgirl/actress to slut in my mind, although, the girls that do this are typically slutty anyway...but I would be destroyed if I ever had a daughter that allowed herself to be such a low-priced worthless sex object.

      Then again, like I said, all people are not created equal and everyone has different standards...so my opinions are subjective and relative.

      The entire usury behavioral scenario is unattractive to me, so I just don't get how people can be turned on by something without respect for it.

      My dad took me to a strip club on my 18th birthday and all...but I've met too many strippers who were completely delusional (read literally bat shit CRAZY), destroyed creatures on the inside...and I see people for what they are on the inside more than the outside (stupid over-powered brain)...so perhaps I'm not the one to speak to on this.

      I just hope no crazy bitches think they can do it and then try to hide it and have a normal life again one day...that kind of pathological behavior is toxic and is like putting a nuclear bomb under the foundation of a relationship...and potentially destroying the truly innocent. It follows you.

      So, you're an accountant?...that used to be a stripper?...sorry, you're labeled as a stripper for life, because you chose that path instead of thinking marriage or respect or life past 30.

      Another hottie that is forever toxic and untouchable in the context of true 'love'. :'(

      To be honest, I have no problem with people doing whatever they like as long as they don't lie about it, but the nature of the beast is having to live with yourself at age 40...when you don't have any boyfriends around to pretend to give a f*ck about you while f*cking you for fun.

      I can only imagine how much that will suck.

      If your girlfriend is a stripper...would you be upset if she gave blowjobs? What about for $$$$ ? Well, the easiest way to avoid sin is to avoid the occasion for sin...and can you really trust that personality in that environment to do anything but have sex for money? In which case, what's the point of a relationship unless you're not a boyfriend (someone who truly cares about her well-being long-term) but a pimp?

      How can any relationship exposed to that environment and social dynamic not be plagued with fights and distrust?...unless it's just an 'open' relationship...which isn't really remotely the same as a normal relationship, because the normal way of showing a relationship that makes it a relationship is exclusive sex...beyond that it's more like swinging...

      ...but this entire conversation started by discussing 'normal' girls who are becoming strippers (and going down that path) because of the recession?

      Eh, it's a free country. lol :)

    • 3 years ago
  • eta
  • Gozy
  • eta
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      eta  
    • this is also an indication of the degradation in what getting and having a degree in America means. and I'm only using this influx in strippers and porn actresses as a springboard, but the pursuit of degrees and higher education in America have come to resemble our economic system, in mentality and practice.
      increasing in the past 20 years with this rise of hypercapitalism, we've seen this nihilization of american education. it wasn't about gaining knowledge, but ended information for a career. Just like throughout our cultural system, "the best and the brightest" at our nation's top universities were no longer the best and the brightest in reality.

      in regards to this article, there's also the generational factors of hedonism and performing to account for. but to me, the issue isnt necessarily strippers and pornos, it's how we choose to portray them. our repressive national sentiment toward sexuality makes these things smuttier and more unpoetic than they already are.

      I think women dancing buttnaked (suggestively or otherwise) can be beautiful and I also think if porn can be beautiful - if it becomes simply the capturing of sex without aesthetics dressing it up and perverting it. but in both of these arenas we have to realize there is discerning to be had. some people are TALENTED at the art of lovemaking. they really are. Some women were made to be sexual beings. and a lot of women in the porn industry are absolutely NOT meant for it, but gravitate toward it b/c of corporeal limitations.
      as a culture, we need to move forward to this structural point where are being artisans of our craft, whatever that may be. and we recognize and embrace a process of steady self-improvement within that craft. and no shit, if you wanna talk about cultural indications that this is taking place, kinda like Lil Wayne in The Carter III. listens to his verses and lyrics on that album, and just the progress he's made from previous work and you can say, he's tried to get better and has. this is in hip hop and maybe not the most ideal exemplar, but you know if you see it in one of the most capitalistically shat on microcosms of our society, it's taking root and emerging in other places as well.

    • 3 years ago
  • alivein85
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      alivein85  
    • i agree with damnneargenius. i am only 24, but of the many people i have spent time with the last eight years, there were precious few I met who ever had any self respect, not to mention respect for their fellow man. i feel like i am one of the last (of people my age) who were raised to have manners, to clean up after myself in day to day life, to be respectful, to not curse in front of certain company. to be punctual, to have self discipline and self control, et. cetera, et. cetera. does anyone else here see that? and its not just strippers either, and its not just females.

    • 3 years ago
  • mashuckles
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      mashuckles  
    • Hmm. I think it depends on the woman and her game. I too know a couple of strippers, one of which is my girlfriend, who have it down to a science. They go in, get their money and live separate, upstanding lives outside of work. If a woman is weak to begin with, then yes I believe she will succumb to the setting. But if she has her head screwed on properly, she can make her money by selling the "trick" a fantasy, an imagined connection that is lacking elsewhere in his life. Such a woman is in the position of power, because most of the men who frequent strip clubs have some unfulfilled need of connecting with another. And sadly enough, our society leads these men to believe that they can find this connection by living out a sexual fantasy. In a reputable strip club, however, this fantasy is merely entertained and not actually provided. So in the end, I believe it just depends on where the stripper works and where her head is at.

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • Self-respect = priceless.

      The lack of quality women due to the financial/social behavioral models of our culture is really starting to worry me.

      When in doubt sell out?

      Suit yourself but you'll never get respect nor a dime from me.

    • 3 years ago
  • Robert_S
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      Robert_S  
    • Didn't Christ Rock say that a fathers main job is to keep her off the pole?

      Guess Daddy is feeling the recession too.

      Probably pissed his daughter makes more dough than he does.

      lol

      Nothing surprises me anymore.

    • 3 years ago
  • JasonBeanhead
  • alivein85
  • Juas
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      Juas  
    • As a man, I would like all nice ladies to have little clothing. That would be heaven.
      But as the dude said up there - normally this striclubs are filled with drugs and alcohol and end up corrupting this nice ladies, making them whores.
      We dont want no whores. We just want nice ladies.
      Nice ladies that are happy with good jobs that work hard and eventually get home to do us a nice lapdance.
      So then, we can satisfy them over and over for their hard work and their greatness.

    • 3 years ago
  • Gozy
  • Slick
  • alivein85
  • jogglef
  • Gozy
  • jogglef
  • amilli23
  • Sam_the_Wizer
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      Sam_the_Wizer  
    • How sad. I've known quite a few strippers and they all had very unhappy lives. The girls I knew became addicts, prostitutes, and one attempted suicide. Although ideologically I have nothing against stripping as a profession, in my experience it doesn't work to empower women, but only to break their spirits.

    • 3 years ago
  • cmruready
  • Gozy
  • Ares
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • Sam_the_Wizer:

      Problem is, you can never fathom the depth and devastation of the consequences before it's too late to undo them. Once you cross that line, you become surrounded by and immersed in that tragically dysfunctional lifestyle, and life afterwards will be nothing but a bad joke.

      I'm not the kind of guy that goes to a strip club to pay a stranger to pretend to like me because I am smarter and more respectful than that, however, I have known a handful of strippers...and they were all totally fucked in the head.

      Selling your body might get you money, but at the price of losing all respect. Lots of people who don't care about you and just want to use you will pretty talk you into it, but in the end...

      Well, to quote my father, an analogy would be "You suck one cock and you're a cocksucker for life."

    • 3 years ago
  • ClareW
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      ClareW  
    • This is such a pile of crap, I refuse to beleive that the current state of the economy would encourage women to start lapdancing who previously would never have considered it

    • 3 years ago
  • motief1386
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      motief1386  
    • I must say this hits a little close to home. My best friend manages a strip club on the south side of Chicago. While I usually hang out there after work, I never really get dances or anything, but I have built up relationships with the girls. It's a way a girl with very little skill can make a decent amount of money, but there is a very dark side to dancing.
      A.) Copious amount of dope of any variety

      B) Like the article said most the girls are wasted during their shifts

      C) Most men feel, if a girl will strip she'll more than likely go home with you.

      So while yes there's money to be made a combination of those downfalls can suck away a lot of it. I've seen dancing simply ravage some pretty sweet young women's lives. But I always say more power to women if men are willing to give them money for looking good, I'm just not one of them.

    • 3 years ago
  • iemitremmusi
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      iemitremmusi  
    • “It is like giving a speech, but instead of imagining everyone naked, you’re the one who’s naked,” Brown, 29, said.

      That quote is just incredible.

    • 3 years ago
  • jh64487
  • boboman
  • Dersex
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