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Morgellons disease reaching pandemic stage in the US?

source: http://www.naturalnews.com/025959.html

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JanforGore
Is Morgellons Disease the result of GMO exposure? Is it the result of our toxifying our environment? This article contains much useful information on this malady that is striking thousands of people across the US and around the world. This is not being covered by the MSM. Please read this and take it seriously.


From the article:

Yes, it`s been incredible. It took me three years to hear from approximately 600 people reporting their disease to me, and since the article I`ve heard from over 1,000 more, just in the matter of a few weeks. When it got to a thousand, I stopped counting. I really need to find a secretary. Wonderful people are also emailing me wanting to help.

People are reporting their disease from everywhere, Minnesota, Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Massachusetts, Texas, Georgia. I`ve heard from people in Canada, England, Scotland and Australia. I received an email that was in Chinese that I couldn`t read. Most of them want to find a doctor. I am trying to get more doctors to see these people. So far there is Dr. Amelia Withington in Virginia; Dr. Cheryl Reed, in Tampa, Florida; Dr. Jergens Winkler in Oceanside, California; Dr. James Matthews in Maryland; and also Dr. Gary Smith in Alabama. There is Dr. Susan Kolb in Atlanta, and Dr. Peterson in Citrus, Florida, and few others. These are all really good people, kind doctors who don`t have any problem getting their patients on homeopathic medicine or natural products.

I`ve also been trying so hard to find MD Naturopaths who will see these patients. All these sufferers are screaming out for validation. I`ve even been asked by the Social Security Administration to become an expert witness for people who need SSI/Disability and who are really suffering.

In your articles you put together a picture that makes sense. People feel better about coming out of hiding. Finally they can look beyond all the misunderstanding and see the misuse of Agrobacterium in our seeds and crops. They can get some understanding of why they are sick. Biochemists and scientists are playing around with horrible things. They are Frankenscientists. Monsanto should be shut down along with Dow Chemical.

Barbara: I am happy to hear that the last interview made so many people confident enough to email or call you. I am afraid there are still many more people who have just about given up on themselves. What are you able to do for people who call you?

Trisha: I ask them questions about their symptoms. Some of the symptoms that really suggest they have Morgellons are:

Hearing buzzing in the head or high pitched sound
Seeing floaters behind the eyes
A change in the sense of smell
A change in the sense of taste
Problems with time and space, and forgetfulness
Feeling like they are a magnet, and like they are attracting things
Feeling like they are surrounded by strange debris
Seeing fibers coming from the skin
Seeing flecks that glow like Christmas tree sparkles

These fibers and flecks are not planetary smart dusts implanted in our bodies by aliens or from chemtrails like some people imagine. They are PCBs from the environment as a result of toluene toxicity. Vectors carry this too, so it is transmitted not only by long periods of exposure to toluene and its relatives, but it is also vector borne.

Lastly, I ask them if they have seen parasites, and I tell them they can be very honest with me because I am not going to judge them. Ninety percent of the people who have called me have answered "yes" to this question. I am crying tears of joy here, because you came into my life and so have all the wonderful doctors who have stepped up to the plate to help these patients. These doctors love truth. More doctors will get involved in an honest way when we can take the voodoo and conjecture out of this disease.

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57 comments // Morgellons disease reaching pandemic stage in the US?

  • aripekangel
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  

    • I am not a naturapathic nut case, but I suggest caution when making quick conclusions regarding causes and remedies of diseases. Many modern medical remedies are derived from nature. Penicillin being the most prominent. Aspirin was derived from willow tea and many other cures were derived from observant scientists working with the natural world. Heparin comes from the study of snake venom. Many, many other medicines owe their existence to chemicals produced in nature and then reproduced in commercial laboratories. Antibiotics should be the last option, because of the now existance of resistant strains to our current antibiotics. Go to the hospital and catch a antiobiotic resistant staph infection and you can be dead in 24 hours. The doctors are helpless to save you.

    • 3 years ago
  • ArmyJuggalo
  • sue4e3
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      sue4e3  

    • the hysteria is giving me a headache .statistics dictate that 65% of all relitively new diseases (within the last hundred years ) come in with this same kind of scarey bang.I think the advice of detoxifing your life is probably a good idea.It's an idea as old as time in the event that you don't know where something is coming from isolate as many factors as possible.As far as the medical world if this disease was fatal and not chronic (like I'm suspecting ) it would be out there .Aids by the early 80"s was out there the cdc wasn't talking but every one knew it. Maybe by different names but they knew it was fatal and it was spreading.This disease seems to be dermatalogical, neurological,and or immuno deficiency( parasites, lymes and skin problems love people with a lowered immune system) the problem with this kind of thing is if it doesn't mimic another disease it is probably being treated symptomatically instead of finding the reason. hundreds of diseases are treated that way every day.Not that it's good. The lists of diseases and syndromes that are strange and scary before they had a name are huge ,but now we know there names they are digestable.

    • 3 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  

    • Here is some info to chew on. I worked for an oilfield chemical company for 20 years, in contact with many volatile chemicals and a herbicide also. Before getting a severance package we were required to sign a statement that we would never sue them in the future for health problems related to possible exposure while working. Now why would they ask for a release? Inquiring minds want to know?

    • 3 years ago
  • vladrath
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      vladrath  
    • MoonLoon:

      Because you were in contact with volatile chemicals and herbicides?

      And also they have a lot of lawyers who don't want a bunch of old employees suing them for every malady that befalls them as they age?

    • 3 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • MoonLoon:

      You are correct about them not wanting to be sued. However, the greater fear is a class action suit brought about because they failed to research the effects of the products or they knowingly concealed information regarding hazards to employees health. Google the health hazards of Benzene, Toulene,Formaldahyde Acrolein, Abestos, Coal Dust, Mercury. Are you aware the mercury and radioactive scale is produced from many oilfields? All company men and service hands are exposed to these hazards. These are just the tip of the iceberg. Nowadays most employers conduct a through physical to establish employees base line health. They then have information needed if the employee ever goes to court on a frivilous suit.

    • 3 years ago
  • kcfoxie
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      kcfoxie  
    • MoonLoon:

      It's starting to sound as if society is cultivated into two kinds:

      Thinkers with poor health

      Mentally challenged with strong backs

      Based on what I saw from the series "Black Gold" on discovery, and this tidbit, it makes me wonder. Lots of "third generation" oil drillers on that show...

    • 3 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • MoonLoon:

      Foxie, you just described our World! Is being strong, yet not so smart, a handicap? Just as being a little weinie, incapable of performing a 12 hour shift required of a man trying to support his family, a handicap? We are all in this together and the sooner you realize it , the sooner we will have some power over our oppressors. Do not fool yourself, we are pawns, moved by the master's, manipulated by bankers, investor's, and white collar criminals. Wake up boy! This has been going on a long, long time.

    • 3 years ago
  • bjm1989
  • Uelthomas
  • Anyother
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  

    • OMG!!! Did any of you actually READ this article???

      This lady, Trisha Springstead, is a NUTTER!

      First of all, NOBODY KNOWS what is causing Morgellons. This is why the CDC is working with Kaiser Permanente to research the disease.
      http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/16/BA0EUGEBK.DTL

      And if it is caused by genetically modified "agrobacterium", then show me one technical paper published in a peer-reviewed medical journal, accepted by the medical community, detailing the cause of the disease as such. Until then, we have no idea one way or the other.

      Now for this "expert" Trisha Springstead . . . This lady says the way to prevent Morgellons is by going "GREEN" . . . to get rid of all the chemicals in your house, to stop using plastics, to use only natural products, to brush your teeth with baking soda and salt . . .

      What's worse, is that this lady is actually telling people how to "self-medicate" with her own voodoo herbal remedy:

      "Diataomaceous earth is used in cattle feed to kill parasites, funguses and bacteria. It is fossilized hard shell algae and can be used by people too. One teaspoon in four ounces of water for anyone 100 pounds and under, two teaspoons if the body weight is 100 to 150 pounds, and one tablespoon for more than 150 pounds. This should be taken right before bed and nothing else should be consumed until morning."

      and then says things like:
      "Antibiotics should be shunned at all costs unless there is absolutely no alternative." and "I do believe one of the electrical frequency machines on the market would be an acceptable therapy . . . "

      This woman, this "expert", is a NURSE that is using this disease to promote a "green" and "organic" lifestyle . . . which has nothing to do with the disease. She's not a doctor, she's not even a researcher, and she should not even be given the time of day after listening to what she is saying.

      The bottom line is that the medical community DOES NOT KNOW what causes this disease. Speculation on the cause is one thing, but prescribing a "cure all" solution is irresponsible at best and possibly dangerous at worst.

      I've questioned your judgement and mental capacities before JanforGore, but holy effing sh!t did you drink the kool aid this time . . .

    • 3 years ago
  • H3ADLINE
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      H3ADLINE  
    • lucidstone:

      thank you so much for making this comment. the world needs more sane, fact based people pointing out what should be obvious when hucksters and kooks exploit the unknown.

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • lucidstone:

      To call someone nuts without proof only shows that because you are for GMOs even though you have nothing to back up that they are safe, you would say anything to try to disprove anyone who suspects them. No one here stated for certain it was GMOS, hence why I formed the title in the form of a question. Again, arrogant people who think they know more who have no more proof than anyone else trying to showoff. And when you can produce a peer reviewed medical report INDEPENDENT of Monsanto that proves GMOS are safe, maybe then you will have some credibility in calling anyone else nuts.

    • 3 years ago
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • lucidstone:

      I am not saying that GM foods are safe, I have said that they CAN be safe and that we should explore and exploit the hell out of the technology to human benefit . . . and I say quite sincerely, screw all of this "sacred earth" nonsense you continuously put forward.

      But I digress.

      First of all, the "expert" in the article that you posted asserted that the disease was caused by GM "agrobacteria".

      Second of all, YOU asserted the link between GM organisms and the disease in your very first post by saying:
      "Disease Contains Identical Material to GM Food.", and then linking an un-credible source to back up that statement . . . .

      How you could say, "No one here stated for certain it was GMOS" . . . when YOU yourself stated it, well that is beyond my ability to understand . . . I think you probably live in a delusional world where such statements actually make sense.

      Lastly, I do not need proof to determine someone is off the rocker when they claim to "know" the cause of a disease which is unknown to the rest of the scientific/medical community . . . and then "know" what the "cure all" is, and then to recommend it to everyone over the web. THAT is a "nutter" in my book any day of the week.

      The fact that you put ANY stock in that article makes me question your mental facilities as well. And when you say, "Please read this and take it seriously." . . . just, wow.

      Personally, I don't know one way or the other if genetically modified organisms are causing this disease. It's an interesting hypothesis worth looking at, and I would very much like to see data one way or the other. But i do know that the article you posted is absolutely worthless in figuring out the truth.

    • 3 years ago
  • nkeg87
  • current89
  • Nettle
  • vladrath
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      vladrath  
    • lucidstone:

      Thanks for keeping things rational around here lucid.

      It is very important to make sure that sources are checked so we aren’t actually taking stories that don't substantiate their facts seriously.

      I mean if you have been to college you will now by taking a low level english class if your sources don't pass muster you won't get very far.

    • 3 years ago
  • suthnautr
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      suthnautr  
    • lucidstone:

      Actually what Trisha Springstead says makes a lot of sense. When you ask what proof she presents, what clinical studies and trials and articles in medical journals to back up her research you are using a form of circular logic. The medical community will not take Morgellons seriously because it is not an "officially recognized" disease. If a doctor were to treat it as such, that doctor would be in danger of losing his or her license. So there is no such study, and for this reason you say she's nuts. A lot of what Trisha Springstead is doing goes AWAY from Monsanto's gene splicing into mycoplasma and inserting it into our food plants. What she does know about is something used throughout the world for over 6,000 years by dozens of cultures for medical reasons - the use of essential oils, herbs and botanical extracts. Western Medicine has always liked to deny and put down anything not Western Medicine - all the way back to the days before blood letting, leeches, and skull borers were commonplace, all the way back to the days of the Roman Baths when "scrapers" were used to scrape off the oils from peoples filthy skin, mix them all together in a big bowl, and then apply the putrid mass to the ill to make them "healthy". Western Medicine has changed and advanced a great deal since those days, but it is by no means perfect, and the pharmaceutical companies are the second largest money making companies in the USA directly under big oil. Trisha Springstead isn't nuts. She may just be onto something, and she's definitely one of the ones who is actually pushing the CDC and others very hard to look more seriously into this thing while she herself actually has people coming forward saying that she has helped them. The fact is that when the "accredited agencies" don't act, then we, the American people (and people of the world) don't accredit them with very much of anything, no matter how much they all stand together and pat each other on the backs proclaiming how main-stream and scientific they are. So Trisha Springstead does what needs to be done - accesses her vast library of research books on various botanicals, treats purity very seriously, and refuses to keep her mouth shut and obediently march lock-step behind the CDC and article writers for Medical Journals just because they haven't yet officially figured out what Morgellons is or isn't.

    • 3 years ago
  • mande
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      mande  

    • Altschuler has been studying a disease that sounds exactly like Morgellons disease.

      “People were calling us with very similar symptoms from all over the country,” says Altschuler.

      The NPA teamed up with the Oklahoma State Department of Health to study the creepy crawlers.

      They took skin samples from 20 patients who claim they have the bugs, but were diagnosed by their doctors as delusional.

      Researchers found collembolan, a microscopic critter, in 18 of the 20 patients.

      Collembola feed on algae, bacteria and decaying matter. They thrive in wet or damp surroundings, and can be found under leaky kitchen or bathroom sinks, swimming pools, and the soil of potted plants.

      The report was published in the journal of the New York Entomological Association. However, it wasn't enough evidence to get the centers for disease control to take action.

      The CDC told Altschuler that the collembola was not a danger to humans, even though she says the CDC has shown her no specific study to prove it.

      The Morgellons Foundation says it was also shot down by the CDC.

      If the research on the collembola is right, researchers still have to figure out how serious these critters are to your health, and they have to find out how to kill them.
      as copied from: http://www.safesolutionsinc.com/morgellons.htm

    • 3 years ago
  • mande
  • darkhorsejim
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      darkhorsejim  

    • This almost unbelievable disease has become much more prominent over the last few years, paralleling Lyme disease in some respects. The as of yet unidentified, creepy & painful fibers growing from the sores are a real attention grabber. GMOs are highly suspect among the victims given the widespread random cases from across our country & the world. We may have gone too far by overloading our ecosystem with petro-chemical toxins that we will inevitably ingest. Even climate change is being looked at as the Earth & its inhabitants must adapt to unforeseen consequences of an uncertain future.

    • 3 years ago
  • NeverNude
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      NeverNude  

    • Okay, this is from Wikipedia (I know, not exactly concrete) about the Black Plague. The reports of skin lesions reminded me of what I had learned of the Black Plague back in Euro history in high school, so I decided to look it up and see if there was any kind of connection. One of the three forms, the Septicemic Plague, is frighteningly simmilar. The second quote is particularly interesting in regards to previous comments made above about the connection between Morgellon's and Agent Orange. Also, thanks to this impromptu research, I've become aware of the idea of the Malthusian Limit-something that has been plaguing me (no punn intended) for sometime, though I'd yet to find a term to use for it.

      "The disease can result from bubonic and pneumonic plague when bacteria enter the blood from the lymphatic and respiratory systems, respectively. Like other forms of gram-negative sepsis, septicemic plague can cause disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC), and is almost always fatal. The septicemic plague was the least common of the three forms of the plague. The symptoms would include high fevers, purple skin patches and notorious vomiting."-from article about the Septicemic Plague-one of the forms of the Black Plague.

      "Every year thousands of cases of plague are still reported to the World Health Organization, although with proper treatment the prognosis for victims is now much better. A five to sixfold increase in cases occurred in Asia during the time of the Vietnam war, possibly due to the disruption of ecosystems and closer proximity between people and animals"-from article about Yersinia pestis-a bacterium that causes the three forms of what is commonly referred to as the Black Plague.

    • 3 years ago
  • seanalyn
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      seanalyn  

    • Theres been a lot of debate over this disease and I am on the side that believes its a real disease of sorts. Now I do think some people are faking and thats bound to happen with every disease, but I do think this is real.

      One of my friends had a roommate who has this and he swears he saw the fibers as well. So, Im inclined to think the fibers are real and not a psychological manifestation. But even if they are, then there is some underlying problem that is causing these specific hallucinations and the other symptoms. So we do need to look into this disease more.

    • 3 years ago
  • Sam_the_Wizer
  • NeverNude
  • JanforGore
  • NeverNude
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      NeverNude  

    • I dont understand how skin lesions with protruding fibers could possibly be over-looked by medical professionals? Either people do or they dont have it, how could it be disputed? Its not like people are claiming to have symptoms that cannot be detected, lesions with protruding fibers would be kind of hard to miss. So why does the term "delusional parasitosis" seem to pop up with any discussion of this purported disease?

    • 3 years ago
  • NeverNude
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      NeverNude  
    • NeverNude:

      you know, the interraction between fungus and the human body and the oddities that ensue isn't really a new subject for discussion. Take the tree man for example. I'm still searching for some hard evidence and statements from medical professionals. Also, having read your comments on the supposed cause being GM's genetically altered crops and your presumption that they had prior knowledge of this and went ahead regardless, leaves me a bit skeptical. I'm not saying any of it isn't true or even that its not plausible, but I do think that this is starting to sound a bit like the boy who cried conspiracy..

    • 3 years ago
  • NeverNude
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      NeverNude  

    • "Many dermatologists refute the suggestion that this is an actual disease but instead indicate that many of these patients have psychological problems or other common skin disorders. Given the large numbers of individuals who feel that they have this affliction, it will be most helpful over the coming years to have a valid scientific assessment of Morgellons diesease and its possible etiology (or etiologies). One of the chief criticisms by many patients has been that they feel the medical community and other scientists consulted have not been open to the idea that there is possibly an as yet undescribed infectious or physiologic causation for the disease. However it is certainly true that in fact many expert parasitologists, medical entomologists and other microbiologists have in fact carefully examined fibers and other materials expressed or extracted from such patients and found that biological organisms are not present. Although an apparent association of the condition with the presence of Lyme disease has been reported (Savely et al, 2006, Am J Clin Dermatol, 7:1–6), further research will be needed to help resolve the validity of Morgellons disease. Until then, whether Morgellons disease is another name for delusional parasitosis or a real disease entity with a biologic or physiologic basis will remain up in the air"(2007). Atlas of Human Parasitology ?? Im finding alot of mixed information so far

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • asherp
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      asherp  
    • JanforGore:

      Wouldn't it be interesting if putting animal genes in plants has created a new form of life that can act as a neo-parasite?

      I wrote a short story about exactly this kind of thing happening, but I thought it was far fetched.

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • NeverNude
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      NeverNude  

    • "Hearing buzzing in the head or high pitched sound
      Seeing floaters behind the eyes
      A change in the sense of smell
      A change in the sense of taste
      Problems with time and space, and forgetfulness
      Feeling like they are a magnet, and like they are attracting things
      Feeling like they are surrounded by strange debris
      Seeing fibers coming from the skin
      Seeing flecks that glow like Christmas tree sparkles"

      these are pretty ambiguous symptoms, what exactly is this we're talking about? Said list seems, to me, like a recipe for a hypochondriac's(spelling??) wet dream. This whole thing is pretty vague, I've never heard anything about this before. I gather this is cuased by genetically altered crops?? Is it contagious? Is it deadly? Is it curable? wtf

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • NeverNude
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      NeverNude  
    • NeverNude:

      certainly not, but I dont think it to be a good idea to cause unnecessary panic. What is the eventual outcome? does it lead to other medical complications? has it been known to go away? does it spread? does it kill? Is it contagious?

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • NeverNude
  • JanforGore
  • cadsuch
  • leahl
  • cheezynuts
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      cheezynuts  

    • Monsanto GM-corn harvest fails massively in South Africa

      South African farmers suffered millions of dollars in lost income when 82,000 hectares of genetically-manipulated corn (maize) failed to produce hardly any seeds.The plants look lush and healthy from the outside. Monsanto has offered compensation.

      http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/270101

    • 3 years ago
  • Mikeysfake1
  • scabbio
  • Agorful
  • kennymotown
  • queenofit
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      queenofit  
    • Image

    • * Vierotchka added the current link 7 months ago.....

      ________________________________-

      There is no telling what kind of disease and deformities lie ahead. Look at some of the sufferers left from Monsanto's spraying Vietnam with Agent Orange. You think Monsanto gave a crap what the people of Vietnam would look like in 30 or 40 years? They sure don't care about our health, that is for certain.

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • queenofit:

      Yes I saw that ( though I am sure others didn't) but more cases are being reported now and the CDC is still in the stages of investigating the potential reasons. You can bet if it in any way would compromise the profits of a certain company they will not be allowed to divulge it. And in all honesty I think Monsanto knew this kind of thing would happen and allowed GMOs to be put on the market anyway because as they were quoted as saying they don't want to give up one dollar of profit.

    • 3 years ago
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • queenofit:

      So, I looked into that source and it directs to:
      http://www.i-sis.org.uk/error/login_error.php?location=

      The "Institute of Science and Society" . . . sounds official doesn't it.

      However the link to the paper doesn't even give an abstract like any other respectable source would without paying a membership fee, which would be odd for a legitimate source.

      So I looked at the displayed list of their recent publications for sale:
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      I'm sorry but this doesn't appear to be a respectable source at all since all of these recent publications appear to slant to a particular "organic" mantra.

      Also, their self-applied description of:
      "Science in Society magazine The only radical science magazine on earth"

      . . . demands incredulity to this being a viable source of rational information.

      The term "radical" implies a lax set of rules and science is not "radical" by nature. If you can't prove something through a thorough use of the scientific method and proper data analysis techniques , then you can't prove it.

      So instead of just singularly dismissing the agrobacterium hypothesis off of one bad source, I tried looking it up on scholar.google.com . . . and I could find nothing that had both the words agrobacterium and Morgellons or Morgellons and GMO. I welcome you to find a published article in a respected peer-reviewed journal if you can, I however can not.

      So, as it looks . . . your source is invalid and there is not yet any proven link to the Hypothesis that Morgellons is caused by GMO's.

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • lucidstone
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • JanforGore:

      If I want real information I get it and do. I don't need arrogant people to preach at me about where to get it. Looks like the GMO groupies are out in full force. Amazing you don't see that Monsanto being able to push through GMOs without the same 'credible' information you now demand is the biggest joke of all. How hypocritical. I personally do believe that there is a link, and if you think any reputable medical journal would be allowed to state that publicly you really don't know about the real world. There are many looking at this but it is obviously being hushed. I wonder why? Don't answer that though, because I really don't think I could take another pompous answer from you here.

    • 3 years ago
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • JanforGore:

      I love that your argument boils down to: "If Monsanto doesn't use credible data than neither do we."

      There MAY be a connection and there may not be.

      There ARE studies being done to test whether or not these GM foods have any affects on non-target organisms, studies that aren't being funded by corporate interests. I'd respect your point of view a lot more if you could dig up studies published in peer reviewed journals . . . but you don't, so I don't respect it at all.

      All you are doing is propagating rumors. Nothing more.

    • 3 years ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • JanforGore:

      Thanks Jan, for this post. I have suffered from purple splotches forming just under my skin for the last three years. I have also been to 3 opthamologists complaining of a cluster of strange floaters occurring at night in low light conditions. They have yet to come up with an answer and seem to think that I am imagining them. I assumed some type of parasite from living in Nigeria, but I may follow up on this. I am far from a hypochrondiac, but when you see creatures crawling in your eyes it a bit disconcerting.

    • 3 years ago
  • lucidstone
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      lucidstone  
    • JanforGore:

      To: moonloon

      Personally, I have 4 of these symptoms that are "strong indicators".

      -Hearing buzzing in the head or high pitched sound
      A high pitched ringing sound occurs from time to time, especially when I listen for it.

      -Seeing floaters behind the eyes
      I see two kinds, gram- shaped rod like strands and clusters of circles. I see them usually against light backgrounds. They actually shift in relation to itself as if they were fidgeting, but they don't grow and it's always the same floaters.

      -Seeing flecks that glow like Christmas tree sparkles
      I see these whenever I shift my focus to better look and track the floaters, especially when looking at a clear sky. It's like little bright white specks that shoot in and out of my field of vision.

      -Problems with time and space, and forgetfulness
      Time, forget about it. I lose track of time all the time to the point where I forget what month it is, let alone what week or day. . . . which leads to the forgetfulness.

      However, I've ALWAYS had these "symptoms" for as long as I can remember, at least since the age of 4, long before ANYTHING was genetically modified. For me, I'm pretty sure this is just normal physiology and I'm not concerned at all.

      The floaters always perplexed me because most people I talked to growing up didn't see them. However, the eye doctor told me the floaters are harmless as long as they don't grow in number, which could be a sign of retina detachment or macular degeneration or something like that, I don't quite recall.

      As for the purple splotches, I couldn't relate . . . If it concerns you I would talk to a dermatologist. But, between the floaters and purple splotches . . . that doesn't sound like this disease to me, so I think you are safe. =)

    • 3 years ago
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