Scientists find active 'super-thermite' in WTC dust
source: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Scientists_find_active_superthermite_in_WTC_0404.html
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- maasanova
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http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/gen.php?file=7TOCPJ.pdf&PHPSESSID=d6da6e25...
We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.
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ignatzfattis
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The link given above for the paper mentioned is no longer active -no reason given.
Here is a link to the original PDF -as of today still accessable.
http://www.bentham.org/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf
This paper is also not accessable from the Bentham search page -the link that results from the search goes nowhere. I would suggest printing the paper once you've accessed it, in case it "disappears" too.
posted 10/11/10
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ignatzfattis
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jkw077
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I am not sure which is a greater crime against humanity: the intentional perpetuation of a lie to cause destruction, or the perpetual attempt to conceal truths that will lead to peace and salvation. I do know that both are indeed crimes against humanity.
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jkw077
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jkw077
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- Raymond McGovern, PhD, former Chairman of the CIA’s National Intelligence Estimates (NIE) and 27-year CIA veteran. “I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke.” (According to the CIA, NIE’s are “the most authoritative written judgments concerning national security issues.”)
- William Christison, former Director of the CIA’s Office of Regional and Political Analysis, overseeing 250 CIA analysts. 29-year CIA veteran. “I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. … An airliner almost certainly did not hit The Pentagon. … The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center almost certainly did not collapse and fall to earth because hijacked aircraft hit them.”
- Melvin Goodman, PhD, former Division Chief of the CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs and Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. “The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup. I don’t know how else to describe it.”
- General Albert Stubblebine, former commanding general of U.S. Army Intelligence. 32-year U.S. Army veteran. “I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What’s going on?”
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jkw077
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Vote this up... this report that came out find absolutely clear evidence of thermite in the WTC dust. He lost his job getting this paper published. Its disgusting that this has become so taboo that you have to feel like a crazy person to bring up new evidence debunking the official 911 story. They have been sucessful in socializing joe-six-pack to snear at the mention of something being seriously wrong with the official story. I ask you... WHAT OTHER POSSIBLE REASON would there be to have Thermite in the buildings... especially building 7 (which no plane hit)
Look at this picture from the study that is zoomed in... wake the hell up.
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ryan0000
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Leonidis
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Why isn'tthis on the front page? this is important!
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Leonidis
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Anyother
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Just go to Google Video and look for "Zeitgeist" movie. It`s all about 9/11
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Anyother
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maasanova
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Let's not forget that on the day of 9/11, it was the mainstream media who informed us of the HUGE EXPLOSIONS AFTER the planes hit the WTC Towers.
This video has more than 10 million views and counting.
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maasanova
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frank_runyeon
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Please do all your homework kids.
Below is the NIST website which is very helpful in explaining what exactly happened on 9/11 in great technical detail. The conspiracy videos are flashy, but here is the real deal.
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frank_runyeon
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cheezynuts
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frank_runyeon:
thats just their theory
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cheezynuts
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frank_runyeon
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frank_runyeon:
Absolutely, let me clarify. The NIST report is a thorough expert investigation. What I mean by real deal is that it is not hyped-up nor does it aim to persuade the reader/viewer. It's simply a straight-forward presentation of expert opinion on each issue. Check out this section on FAQs, it's pretty well done, especially for a government site...
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frank_runyeon
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TenaciousZ
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Oh really you retards....... We also didn't land on the moon and Kennedy was shot by a million federal agents. Believe everything you see on youtube.
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TenaciousZ
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cheezynuts
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TenaciousZ:
i guess its better to believe everything on your T.V. and this has nothing to do with a youtube video, try reading it
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cheezynuts
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wirehedd
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The visibly "demolition scarred" beams after 9-11 left little doubt. To say that we have been told the truth about this tragedy is simply dumb.
No surprise at the findings, the question is now; Is anyone giong to do anything with/about it?
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wirehedd
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think_free
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It's a shame that our government killed so many Americans to be able to go to other countries and kill more people.
All for what?
Greed.
Makes me sick to say I am a part of this country.
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think_free
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mik661
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I think that people actually would feel better if they believed it was a mass government conspiracy rather than the probable truth that we as a nation were a bunch of fat lazy ignorant slobs being governed by incompetent idiots who allowed it to happen.
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mik661
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Mikeysfake1
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If they used Thermite then why hijack the planes? Think about it.
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Mikeysfake1
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Leonidis
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Mikeysfake1:
Dude the whole thing was a staged event. The thermite was used to bring down the buildings.
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Leonidis
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Think4urself
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Mikeysfake1:
uh the planes were the staged event, u couldnt just demolish the wtc and say the wind blew it over....
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Think4urself
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Mikeysfake1:
The replies used words reminiscent of a polular sci fi series aired during the 1990s called Babylon 5. B5 used aliens called the "first ones" who were classified as lords of order and lords of chaos who would pit newer, less advanced civilizations against one another like pawns on a chessboard. The Shadows were called the lords of chaos because they used War to accelerate evolution. Their brainwashed got excited calling the results vast improvements, making the survivors, faster. stronger etc The central figure,Capt. Sheridan, commented: " Oh, so that's what you do huh ? Kick over a few anthills every
100 years or so to jump start progress ? It was all symbolic. But whatever was the staged event( I prefer to think it was the suicide planes, since Bush showed no surprise, and both the FBI/CIA knew it was coming, and likely when)-it's the outcome that matters. The yellow Journalism spurring the jingo slogan Remember the Maine ! came at a time when someone else's real estate was needed for a foreign base(Cuba) so the opportunity arose to invade. Same parallels. The story that came out of Canada in 2005 was that a new pipeline was needed across Afghanistan,Iran,iraq, and Kuwait to replace the crumbling Alaskan oil pipeline as the motive to invade. - 3 years ago
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PressCore
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mik661
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911 truthers all sound like Robert Mulder on the x-files: they all want to believe. Its much sexier, satisfying and exciting to have all your deepest paranoiac fears confirmed rather than accept that it was a freak accident precipitated by a terrorist attack.
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mik661
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mik661:
Dude, actually its disturbing to me to KNOW that 9-11 was a staged event. I was sick to my stomach to figure out the truth. Just use COMMON SENSE in your own research that you do .......peace.
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Leonidis
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mik661:
This is a great example of television creating a sterotypical analogy in order to control preception of the social attitudes towards a particular section of information that is not allowed into mainstream society. This is most definately not conventional wisdom and to just toss it aside would be quite a waste, if it is true or not the implications more then merit much further and detailed investigation into something that would be such a horrid and vile crime.
Psychologically speaking it would be much easier to believe that everything is ok and nothing is wrong. The old saying "ignorance is bliss" should apply there, not to mention historical events of the past have shown that it is socially more acceptable to go with mainstream then is to believe underground or backdoor information when it is against the government itself. The group think is not towards the thought that the government was key to the destruction of the buildings but the majority do want further investigation, including alligations of negligence, at very least.
I do not think that the question is if it was by definition a terrorist attack or not but rather by what organization, above and beyond some front group. Since it is on public record that the very organization blamed for it was created by the original neo-conservative movement and used for political gain ever since as the new non-soviet boogieman. We know for sure that someone had to call off air protection of the pentagon otherwise the automated response system set up by the air force would have shot down any aircraft within a very large radius. That would have been a very timely and costly mistake to be sure, if indeed it was.
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lordd42
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mik661
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mik661:
@ animal lover - I am glad to see you are so up on popular fantasy programming and other sources of your conspiricist fantasies.
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mik661
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Ihatethemall
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and some of those very same people are the ones who either think guns should be either banned or have closer regulations or tighter control. Why are you so willing to give up control of your guns to a shit bag government that you feel is capable of doing this to it's own citizens. These stories only go to show why every American citizen should not only be armed but should also carry those weapons.
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Ihatethemall
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Ihatethemall
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What amazes me is that some people are willing to believe that the GOV was involved in this, yet they don't believe in the New World Order or other conspiracies and will actually go as far as to "deride these people with every chance they get" Why is that? and some have already posted on the story right here and now.
I don't think I have to call you out by name, you know who you are. - 3 years ago
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Ihatethemall
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Leonidis
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Nevermind the evidence just watch the tube and GET PATRIOTIC!
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Leonidis
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Leonidis:
The REAL patriots are the ones that question everything and don't follow along like "good Germans". Where money is involved I don't rule out ANYTHING.
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Leonidis
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Leonidis:
I was being sarcastic.....
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Leonidis:
Where money is considered I don't rule out anything either.The pressing desire to know the Truth will clash with the social control of the masses propaganda it's aimed at. But I am a cynic too. And the sad fact is that we live in a land where Democracy and Capatalism have routinely been at odds. It's sad to think that the USA has been sold out more times than a $2 ho. But whenever people make money their God, there's going to be real trouble. Some like to call us Conspiracy theorists crack names, but realisticly, how many people in this World can do it all by themselves ? Conspiracy simply means a combination of 2 or more individuals/groups with a common interest cooperating to accomplish that goal. It's only connoted to involve something sinister because all too often people have less than virtuous motives. I have a Webster's NewWorld Dictionary of the American Language. College edition 1950. It talks of New World Order as hoped for by the emergence of Democracies.But it too has come to be connoted to mean something sinister, such as an international cabal of uber rich factions manipulating conditions to accomplish the world domination the axis powers couldn't accomplish militarily.
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PressCore
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maasanova
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I love the new tags that the haters and debunkers created for my submission (crap, conspiracy theories, bullshit) so I changed the image just for them.
I think the reason this is a story even though it's been out for a while is because it's been published in a peer review journal. So now it's a matter of fact and not just a theory.
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maasanova
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It was an organized event with a clever idea to suck the world in on this war on terror. The industrial military complex was in need of a boggyman with the Russian's gone and trade with China going on so heavily why not have a thought club you know islamic extremist living in caves be the new enemy. I think that was really the big sell when they came out with the list of hijackers so fast. And then it was on pointing to islam while they cleaned up the mess and a thorough investigation was never really began. 3,000 people die and the powerful people running the show don't even have an investigation into why 3 buildings come down as if they brought down by explosives. We all want to know the real killers so justice can be served, but that ain't going to happen.
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kennymotown
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kennymotown:
And THAT'S one reason why I don't buy the "Afghanistan is the good war" mantra. Another reason is the Charlie Wilson foolishness.
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kennymotown:
and your one of the people that wants to give the government more control of our guns. WHY? why would you want to give up control to a government that does this to it's citizens?
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Ihatethemall
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Bigdog_mike
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Thermite is used in steel welding, fireworks shows, and hand grenades... Its kinda messed up when you start to think about what your own Government would do to you... I'm on the conspiracy side of this, there's just too many things pointing to conspiracy
people hearing other explosions
other buildings exploding
all the tapes in the area of the pentagon confiscated
no debris on the pentagon lawn - 3 years ago
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Bigdog_mike
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asherp
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No shit...
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slarabee [removed]
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slarabee:
and you think we should give up control of our guns to the government and have tighter regulations. WHY? why would you do that if you think the GOV is capable of doing this to it's own citizens?
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Ihatethemall
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Thermite ? As in Thermite Bomb Blast Thermite ? It
doesn't surprise me in the least to find evidence that the WTC could have been rigged to be detonated to correspond with the inpact of the hijacked plane crashing into it. Wasn't it reported that the $2.3 Trillion
which Rumsfeld reported missing occurred only a day before ? The 9/11 investigation that occurred when the Bush Regime was in power couldn't have produced the truth with all that repression just starting up. Don't forget that Timothy McVeigh's Denver defense lawyer tried to introduce evidence that the Oklahoma City Federal Building showed evidence of implosion from within based on the supposition that explosive charges were set to demolish it from within.
They didn't follow up on that either. Those who do not learn from the lessons of History are doomed to repeat its mistakes. - 3 years ago
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