What if the world all used the same currency?
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As the holder of some $2 trillion in dollar-denominated savings the Chinese government has reason to be concerned about the long-term strength of the dollar. One time-honored method of reducing large government debt is to gradually inflate the currency to reduce the real value of that debt. That would also devalue that big pile of Chinese savings.
The dollar’s role as a reserve currency also gives the United States a dominant role in the global economy. That also means other countries are subject to U.S. fiscal and monetary policies over which they have no control.
So it’s no surprise that China would like to see another entity — it suggests the International Monetary Fund would be a good choice — issue a single global currency that would be used by all countries in place of the dollar. There would be many advantages to this. But it has about as much chance of happening as the adoption of Esperanto as a common global language.
A nation’s currency serves several purposes, one of which is a global proxy for the depth, strength and productivity of its economy and the stability of its political system. For all of the problems facing the United States, investors around the world believe the dollar is the safest place to park their wealth. That’s why, for the moment, interest rates on dollar-denominated debt like U.S. Treasuries are so low.
MSNBC 4/06 17:40 PM ET
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neil_nachum
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Esperanto is alive an well, specifically for it's designed purpose: create friendship among nations. The average person will never know the level of usage of Esperanto. We are largely denied accesst to the media, even when we meet with thousands of participants in annual conferences. My English Blog: www.EsperantoFriends.blogspot.com gives you a taste.
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neil_nachum
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hjonnsters
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One currency would most likely help the global crisis. Could be the dollar.
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hjonnsters
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mae37
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Thanks for the info, I'm glad it's being uncovered. The subject of the one world currency was finally on CNN, MSNBC and FOX last night for those in denial who believe only what they SEE reported on slow news (if permissible) corporate owned TV. My concern amongst other investors and savings account holders is "if" they exchange the dollar for a NAU or global currency, we will get 10% for the dollar. Those who save nothing won't be affected much, however those who saved and invested because they were encouraged to could lose 80%, unless invested in gold or silver. I know plenty of 25 year olds that have worked heavy overtime just to save and by CD's or try to make their money work for them.
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mae37
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el_chivo
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What it is the point if the people in high places are going to keep wasting the money irresponsibly?
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el_chivo
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ClipsFC
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Trade agreement. Outsourcing. All contribute to loss of jobs in the US. If we are to get jobs back we need to offer companies better tax breaks so they will hire and keep the jobs in the US. We also need to find better way's to make our products in the US and still be competitive.
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ClipsFC
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NJDaryl
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look around your house and you will hardly find anything made in America. even items with American company labels are made overseas.
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NJDaryl
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kcfoxie
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NJDaryl:
my point exactly.
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kcfoxie
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Agorful
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Americans will NEVER stop buying the cheaper imported products.
Even when people were catching on back in the late 70's and 80's, they still kept on buying from Wal-Mart.
Oh crap, did I just diss Wal-Mart?
Yes, I did. Here's my point. When a Wal-Mart opened a few miles from a small town, everyone knew spending their dollars at Wal-Mart would mean NOT spending at Bob's Hardware, or Mary's Apparel Shop on Main Street. They knew the businesses on Main Street would suffer, but they kept driving past Main Street and into the big city to shop at Wal-Mart.
Soon, they started seeing more and more shops closing on Main. They saw the business owners, their own neighbors and friends, hurting and struggling to survive, but still they didn't change their spending habits.
They had chance after to chance to save the local business, but instead, they let Main Street go out of business and with it, their own town.
Nope, Americans will keep yelling at big business for sending jobs out of the country, and Americans will bitch and moan about how evil these big companies are for moving over seas. But when it comes time for them to spend their money...they'll load up the kids and head to Wal-Mart every single time.
(Forgive me for using Wal-Mart as an example. I didn't mean to imply it was the only problem. Every tag that doesn't read, "Made in the USA" is part of the problem and people don't buy everything from Wal-Mart.)
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Agorful
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kcfoxie
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Agorful:
As I said earlier, when American companies make the products I need on a daily basis, and can make them affordable (I'm speaking to YOU Apple, Inc), I will buy American.
FWIW I can't name anything other than the biodiesel in my german car that is made in America. My Brother printer's toner is assembled in Germantown, TN but that's about it -- printer's from Taiwan, the computer is from Taiwan, the car is from Mexico (designed in Germany), etc etc etc.
I pay more for the biodiesel; and while I sometimes have to blen arab tea into it to get the distance needed on a long trip (more than 700 miles in a single direction), I'm happy to pay that price. I'd be happy to pay the price for an American built diesel vehicle (that hasn't existed since 1988), or even an American built TV (do those exist at all anymore)...
But I can't buy what does not exist. I can't live with what options are there.
How do you suggest I shop?
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kcfoxie
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Houstrino
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Agorful:
Very good point! American made is expensive, we need to work on getting the cost down. Labor is a big part of the expense. That's why many companies outsource. Thats the one thing we need to fix.
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Houstrino
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Agorful
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A world currency is overdue. Since the 1970's, we should have been on a universal currency. And no, I don't believe this is a sign that everyone is going to be forced to worship the devil.
The U.S. has brought this upon herself, via terrible trade policies, outsourcing production, continuing to feed the Fed, selling bonds to non-US sources, and the list goes on and on. Now, the international community is getting so large, they no longer need to kiss the ass of the U.S. and it is only a matter of when, not if we see one world currency.
And it will not destroy the U.S. economy as some have suggested (slarabee, I'm shocked you would even subscribe to the possibility, let-a-lone promote the fear).
It's a part of the evolution of society. We are living in a rapidly changing community that will become part of a One World society. To have multiple types of currency within this newly formed community will be too confusing and impracticable.
And unless slarabee is much older than I suspect, he too, will be folding the new paper currency into his wallet someday.
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Agorful
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TheEmpireGuy
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One world currency is another step towards one world government.
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TheEmpireGuy
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neocongo
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ClipsFC you are not even encouraging a discussion around your original article's topic which is a one world currency. What is your agenda? Cause from where I'm sitting, it's to stir up the pot with a shitload of unsubstantiated rubish.
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neocongo
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Get_Cape
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neocongo:
"unsubstantiated"
Say that 10 times fast!
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Get_Cape
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Agorful
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neocongo:
neocongo - I see your point. But just because he wanders, doesn't mean he is trying to get anywhere.
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Agorful
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ClipsFC
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neocongo:
We are discussing the topic of one Global currency. Some points where made that we need to stop spending, other countries are carrying our debt by giving loans etc. I brought up the obvious that we still have a long way to go. Mentioning the economic troubles we are still facing that could push other nations to demand a global currency. Apples but they do fall from the same tree. Sorry If I confused you.
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ClipsFC
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Houstrino
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neocongo:
I find it very interesting. I also agree that the Credit Cards will be our next toxic assets. I know mine are heh.
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Houstrino
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PressCore
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We need to wake up and stop spending ? Meaning no insult, but we need to start producing !!! When the USA produced to the max, it didn't need to borrow. Heck, there wasn't even an income tax, THAT came 3 years after the F(red). After the F(red), and the Income Tax, there was nothing but an alarmingly growing out of control National Debt. From 1913 to 1980, it had grown to $ 4 Trillion dollars, devaluing our money by inflation.After that idiot Ray Gun, Bush, hiatus, more,worse Bush, the "secret" National Debt as of August 2007 ( when the Denver Mint produced $800 Billion in Ameros to ship to China's banks) balooned to a whopping $64 Trillion. The same benefits of compound interest on assets are inversely the same disadvantages of compound interest on debt. Americans have a collective personal debt even larger than $64 Trillion. As Delia has said, they even had to add another (negative) place holder on the debt clock to remind us that Time is Money. Why we've been borrowing so heavily is because we've stopped producing to balance it. Which means we've been borrowing to cover our losses. When your gains don't outpace your losses, that's inevitable. Add to that the 4 biggest institutionalized parasited the World has ever seen: Big OIl Monopoly, its spinoff Big Chemical Monopoly, it's spinoff, Big Pharma Monopoly after Prohibition, and it's spinoff Big GMO now agressively seeking to become Monopoly with H.R. 875 and 2 other assaults on our fool production, and the USA is in deep, deep, deep, deep shit. I blogged a current.com news article about all the States on the verge of Bankruptcy. NOW is the time to contact NORML and increase theirefforts to launch Cannabis Legalization laws in every State to pull the USA out of its Depression. If you've read the article at its link you know the World Recession was caused by the USA's supermassive black hole debt. Cannabis legalization can produce enough to reverse course out of debt. The Federal Govt. can't do it. The
Military Industrial complex is at the center of that black hole National Debt, sucking up the majority of every dollar withheld from your pay each week. If Washington, Jefferson, Adams, and Franklin were here instead of Big Oil, Big Chemical, Big Pharma, Big GMO, I'm sure they'd agree. They've dug our financial grave when they got infected with War on the Brain. - 2 years ago
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PressCore
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Robroy1
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Good and bad points but a move towards the future. It would solve many oriblems but create many problems as well. I think this is light years away but entirely possible, but the powers that be and the people in control would have to loose to much to do this.just think of about a hundred families controlling all the wealth in the world, right now these people have places to hide and to be kept out of the public eye. With one currency they would be exposed and very vunerable to the entire world. The entire geography of the world would change and maybe not for the better. Think about it. Once we have interplanetary travel this may be necessary.(LOL)
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Robroy1
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1percent
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The world does use one common currency.
It's called credit.
Pareo Nullus
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1percent
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ClipsFC
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1percent:
Love it! Good one
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ClipsFC
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iamfree
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1percent:
DING;-).
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iamfree
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elizajanenspain
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our US dollar is only worth .30 cents ! I was going to move to France ...should of before BUsh made America fall ....Now all I can afford is a room in a Garage ...
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elizajanenspain
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abipolarmind
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China possesion of trillions in US debt is perhaps one of the biggest threats to us as a nation. We need to wake up and quit spending. We must make the difficult spending decisions now and not continue passing them down the generations. This is unfortunate because the only way to do it is to lower the standing of living in the US, but we must at sometime pay for the excesses of previous generations.
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abipolarmind
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Highr0ller [removed]
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For Europe it will never be the dollar. It cost us all a lot of money to set up the EURO currency and we are not all going to change againgto suit just one country.
We might see crude oil pegged to the Euro. Many countries have asked for that.............Venezuela got in trouble for that, and so did Saddam Hussein.
America keeps printing money.......that's not a good thing to do..
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ClipsFC
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I think the point is well taken about the EU Currency. It works for all those countries and could possibly work as a global currency. It could be the dollar $. The idea is intriguing
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ClipsFC
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hjonnsters
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ClipsFC:
I think a common currency would be great. Canada/US and some other countries from the G20. It would probably also strenghten the currency if it's back by more countries.
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hjonnsters
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Sexirobot
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then i'll travel more often.
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Sexirobot
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current89
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Sexirobot:
Yeah, same here.
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current89
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ClipsFC
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Sexirobot:
Me three
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ClipsFC
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ClipsFC
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slarabee:
Very valid point. I think it hurt us to send many of the jobs overseas. Outsourcing is cheaper for companies but hurts the US work force. We have to figure a way to get these jobs back but yet make it possible for companies to afford the labor. Tricky but can be done. Lower Health insurance cost. Lower taxes on corporations that hire etc.
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ClipsFC
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bombastinator
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slarabee:
Yeah, NAFTA didn't go so well. There's going to be some serious mojo needed.
I wonder if it can't be attacked through ecology and social welfare. One of the reasons third world factories are more efficient is they are allowed to pollute much more freely and abuse their workers. Maybe there is a way to tax that. Even voluntarily. Set up some kind of rating system or something. This hammer put x grams of heavy metals into drinking water vs. y grams for this one could be a motivator.
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bombastinator
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kcfoxie
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slarabee:
While I agree with the idea, the country makes nothing that I need. I need 700 miles between fill ups (only germans make diesels that achieve such 'unimaginable' numbers), I need computers that are affordable and functional (apple's too expensive, dell and I don't speak, it's off to the Asian Asus company), my printers are US -- Brother, made in Taiwan.
Well, I take that back. My fuel is made in my state from state grown crops (that have been used as food and then recycled into a fuel). But that is not enough.
I'd love to buy a new Ford diesel, like a Fiesta, but they say those vehicles won't sell here. Apple says they can't make an affordable computer that isn't a piece of junk for less than $1200, and Brother hasn't made anything more than toner cartridges in Germantown, TN since 2002.
How exactly is one to buy american when there is nothing produced by americans that you need?!
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kcfoxie
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LisaVlad
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Good point Slarabee but I also see the point the article makes. Who will pay for all this!? What if China decides to stop lending then what?
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Get_Cape
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slarabee:
Our economy isn't in a tailspin right now?
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Get_Cape
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slarabee:
It could also mess up stability in the middle east. The Reagan administration set up world oil trade in dollars in the 80's as a way to get out of the oil crunch and our relationships with oil producing countries in the middle east are still to some degree influenced by this.
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bombastinator
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ClipsFC
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As the holder of some $2 trillion in dollar-denominated savings China is concerned. (DUH) And that's only China. There are other countries that have at least that, if not more in holdings of US Currency. This is how we paid for Stimulus by borrowing. I want to see what happens the day some of these countries call in the favors.
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ClipsFC
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elizajanenspain
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ClipsFC:
Yep I am afraid that they will Call the Note ! During the Regan years ...Japan bought all the Prime Realestate in New York and Hawaii ....
My Dad was in a couple of Wars he is 80 something and what he told me about the World and China and so forth ..makes me shiver ....China for the past 30 Year's has bought all the GASOLINE !!! And these car companies are Fooling some people ...they are still making Monster Size SUVS ! I BLAME THIS ADMINISTRATION FOR NOT OUT-LAWING SUVS AND CARS THAT DONT GET AT LEAST 40 MPG !AGAIN OBAMA LIED ....AND WILL CONTINUE TO LIE ...Right now President obama is trying to get Military families Health Care ...WHAT A MINUTE MR.President ....We The People Who Voted for you ....the reason why >>>>>>Universal Health Care and End to the Iraq illegal war !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!! No other reason ...none NADA !!!! And you keep destroying America just like the past administration ...you keep letting people DIE waiting in Emergency rooms ....500 a day !!!!! Kucinich 2012** - 2 years ago
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elizajanenspain
