German Singer Arrested For Having Sex . . .

This is a moral issue. However, it's safe(r) to assume that having unprotected sex with anyone is putting yourself at risk -- especially, someone you met casually for sex ...assume you aren't the first and protect yourself.

It's like going into the jungle without any clothing and complaining something bit you...wrap up and protect yourself.

It's a jungle out there (too many people don't bother finding out their status)...

Not telling someone you have unprotected sex with that you are HIV positive is undoubtedly wrong as well, I don't think very many people would dispute that regardless of their HIV status.

But this raises the issue of how safe sex is a choice that should not be left solely on the lap of people with HIV (which nowadays in rich countries for people on the medications, can be held at bay). There was a case recently in which the prognosis of someone with HIV was determined in court - it was worked out at 50 years from infection if they were on the correct medication. We all have a responsibility to look after ourselves.

Whether or not sending this woman to jail is likely to help prevent this happening again is tricky. These cases are springing up allover the world. It is difficult to prove who infected whom and if people with HIV start getting prosecuted then this discourages people from getting tested and looking after themselves in the first place. In essence it increases the stigma.

But unfortunately for people living with HIV you have to accept that it does place a (perhaps unfair) burden of responsibility on your shoulders that might be difficult to deal with. Some people struggle to deal with that clearly. That is sad on very many levels for everyone.

Jubal you are totally on target, bullseye. Now the hard part is to have a healthy discussion without the fear and blame issues. Viral load is very important from a medical viewpoint. I am a little more educated being hiv positive myself.I know the infection rate is under 2% for those who come in contact with this virus. I also know that people come in contact with it every day and do not even know it. That being said it is a little if not a lot selfish to put someone in that position.Unknowingly of course. I do not believe we should declare ourselves invalid in the bedroom.This is a tough issue for those that are afraid.

Sex isn't worth your life. The guys should have worn condoms. BUT, she is definitely guilty of assault at the very least if she didn't tell them. Intentionally putting someone in harm's way because you're a self-centered fuck is wrong in any case. Whether it's covering up the truth about cigarettes, invading a country based on lies, or not informing someone you're screwing that they may die from it. And, I'd love to see blowing cigarette smoke in someones face considered assault. Then you could defend yourself.

Well I am concerned that a lot of people here are assuming facts yet not in evidence. I posted some very pertinent questions above that have yet to be answered. I reserve judgment on this case. I agree that people who are HIV positive should inform their partners about their status, but I also know that people also can use a person's status to mount an attack against them because of the hysteria around HIV that still prevails today.

I have seen one person here in my community be ganged up on by several of their ex's after they became HIV positive, trying to get them in trouble with the law. Something like what lucid was posting above.

I think we need to be rational and get all the facts before jumping to conclusions and assuming that his singer was knowingly trying to infect her partners with HIV.

that's tricky . she's pretty hot . i'd definitely do everything else to /with her which wouldn't endanger me . hell , i might have double wrapped and went ahead and did the nasty even if she told me she was HIV pos . .

You have to assume that everyone you have casual sex with has HIV and other STD's. Never have sex without a condom with people whom you don't know their status.

People need to take responsibility for their own actions, you can't rely on disclosure of anything.

I know two women who got HIV from their husbands who swore they didn't have any extra marital affairs. So no body is safe unless you and your partner both get tested and know your status.

But ultimately you can't blame anybody but yourself if you contract an STD.

I firmly believe that if someone has HIV they should be required by law to disclose it to any sexual partners. Yes people have the option to refuse sex or use a condom, but people also have a right to know what potentially deadly diseases they might be exposed to and make an informed decision based on this information.

One of my close friends contracted herpes from her boyfriend (well now ex) of over a year because he neglected to tell her that he was infected by his ex. His ex also neglected to tell him. Thats 2 people infected with a disease that couldve been avoided had people been mature and responsible and respectful to their partners. Now herpes isnt on the same level as AIDS but it still sucks that my friend has a disease for life because she trusted someone she loved and he disregarded her health.

It sucks for her now because she has to stop and inform everyone she is infected before engaging in any activity. But she is responsible and as awkward and uncomfortable as it is to bring up she has enough respect for others and isnt so selfish as to not disclose her disease.

Of course they should have used condoms, but these men are now infected with a disease that could lead to their deaths... Knowing that she had HIV a suggestion might have been a good idea.

Blatant disregard for human life is criminal in my book...

that's why people shouldn't promiscuous

Wow and here I thought a life changing event, like contracting HIV, would make anyone to grow up.

I'd be ok with her having sex with me. I can handle the HIV.

Somebody get this beautiful slut off the streets for gods sake.

It all depends how it came to light.

If her partners subsequently found out after they had unprotected sex, u can argue that had they known they could have used protection or decided not to sleep with her.

If she has passed on her infection deliberately then she deserves to be locked up and more, its a effectively GBH or murder!

This is really difficult, what she did was undoutedly morally wrong but perhaps she shouldn't be legally prosecuted. And some sort of blame has to lie with her partners if none of them chose to use protection.

This isn't hard at all... she's issuing a death sentence by having unprotected sex with these guys, they have a right to know.

Given all the facts would you sleep with someone who had HIV??? Even using a condom I wouldnt risk it regardless of how fit she is, it defo aint worth the risk!!!

I definitely agree that she SHOULD tell the people she wants to sleep with that she is HIV+, and that that is DEFINITELY the moral thing to do . . . . but is this something we would really actually want to criminalize?

I for one value privacy and I wouldn't want the whole world to know I have leprosy . . . damn it, it's out now. =( Haha, juuuuuust kidding.

But seriously, I would respect that a person would not want to tell their partners they have an STD . . . I mean honestly, I DO kinda look down on people that I know that have such a disease and would be revulsed at the idea of being intimate with them in any way. (Sorry if I've offended anybody with an STD. You're not dirty on the inside, you can still be a good person. You're just dirty on the outside, and that's kind of skeevy . . . just saying.) I would just hope that they would always use protection.

I'm really just glad I've never been faced with that dilemma. As I've always said, "Don't be a fool, wrap your tool!"

I don't know about a legal responsibility but she definitely has a moral responsibility to tell anyone she sleeps with that she has HIV.

Anybody who thinks she has a right to not tell people she has HIV is insane.

It's so coincidental that she's from a group called No Angels, but when you mix laws and morals it always ends up a siticky situation. No pun intended.

yes! people should tell their potential partners of such things. not to is just stupid and irresponsible. I hope people who do this sort of thing get the death penalty for it. sorry but I'm a little begrudging over people who don't inform their partners of such things... I've been a 'victim' of this sort of thing, luckily for me it wasn't a fatal or life-shortening disease... and YES she knew she had it... bitch.

this one's hard...what do i think?..
if this happened to me, i would be really scared but I don't think I would consider it an attempt on my life.

I'm not sure if I agree with that. I guess it could be defined as criminal disregard for the health of another person . . . but you would have to prove that she never told them she was HIV+.

Perhaps you could make the case based off of multiple witnesses that can attest that she either lied or said nothing about her disease; but there isn't any physical proof that the men weren't at some point warned, it would just be witness testimony.

And the problem I see with that is that multiple ex's could get together and lie about it . . . that's certainly possible. I guess the real crux of the legal argument is the criminal intent to put another's health at serious risk.

I still don't know though how much I want this to be a legal issue and how much I want the government involved in what goes on in the bedroom.