If you didn't listen then.... Are you willing to pay attention now? Ron Paul "What if" REMASTERED!

I didn't watch them, I just can't shut up.

Damned funny how it is conveniently forgotten by the socio-liberals that all this deregulation happened on Clinton's watch and not W's...donchano...BWAHAHAHAHA

yup. All this creative lending was invented for and in behalf of "poor" people so that everyone could afford a home. You want to help the poor right?

BTW I believe both parties are guilty of this. So this isn't a Republican/Democrat thing. Its more to do with the roll of government and the Federal Reserve. There should not BE a Federal Reserve. Banks wouldn't take crazy risks on people who couldn't afford to make loan payments if there was no government backed printing press behind them.

You were there in the 1920's?

Beyond that, way to make a broad sweeping statement about the entire 20's and expect anyone to consider any of your statement to be worth the experience of reading it. I want my time back... you cheated me out of 20 seconds of my life with your worthlessness.

Did Nader run with any "Label"? Don't think so. Why wasn't he in the debates? Why wasn't he a real contender? Think about it. . .

I thought Nader ran as a "third party" aka the kook party.
But you're right, we will have to burn down the news desks everywhere in the USA. Maybe start stringing them up by their neckties. (If you think I'm kidding, you just wait til the country collapses and watch) Some shit will hit the fan. LOL

What if you look at his political record and find out that he gives any extra monies back to the government that has not been used.... if I remember right, he is the only member of congress to do so.

Yea that was a pretty un-informed comment. . . The only reason he is Republican is because we are stuck with a two party system.

He may even be worse than that, is he a puppet to kill the revolution? He did a good job if so. He rounded up all the energy and then threw it in a ditch. I need a refill on my apathy prescription. That refill will come with violent riots and the downfall of this hypocrite called the USA.

We aren't stuck with a two party system. There are literally hundreds of political parties in the united states. If the people don't back them then they cannot get into positions of power. But across the US greens, libertarians, and even socialists hold political office in local government. To say Ron Paul was forced to become a republican in order to get his message out is a scape goat argument to hide the fact that he is just as willing to sell out his ideals for a peace of the Washington pie instead of fighting for his core values from the ground up. Ron Paul was just 2008's Ralph Nader. There will be a different guy in 2012 who everyone will complain "should have been president" because of his/her "revolutionary ideas". Dennis Kucinich was that guy in 2004 and Ross Perot was that guy in the 90's. Different guy, same political side show. They never bring about their revolution.

I do agree that it was a major disappointment to see what was done with all his fund raising. But after all everyone did. . . no one voted for him. I knocked on every door in my area, gave them fliers and answered all the questions. . . and only 4 people voted for him in the primaries. Almost no one had even heard about him. The media pick the contenders before the race even starts. Its so frustrating.

If he had gone 3rd party he would not be doing the awesome things he is doing now. HR 1207 is gaining momentum and has over 100 cosponsors now! An audit of the Federal Reserve! AWESOME! Go Ron Paul!

Most of the money that was made in his campaign wasn't wasted. It is still being used to fund the C4L and YAL organizations and the only true injustice is if we let the momentum that was started by Ron Paul's campaign die simply because it wasn't a total victory. We opened the door, but were unable to enter. The door is still open, now we just have to get through it.

OUCH....simple, straight forward, effective.

He ran as a republican knowing that third parties never have a chance in hell at becoming president. He did it to give himself a fighting chance to win the public over with logic and reason, instead of empty reused promises that every other one of the candidates were using.

Too bad people were to stupid to listen to him.

But the condition of the nation was ripe for a LIBERTARIAN winner, and Ron Paul BLEW IT! They put a fricking REPUBLICAN Bob Barr, (anti-drug idiot) in the Libertarian candidate position.

I got some news for you, History has never repeated itself and never will. Our history teachers lied.

As much as I respect both of your opinions, I have to disagree with both arguments. Ron Paul would have had a fighting chance if the ballads were not all ready chosen for us. It was smart to get Obama to run. McCain's success for the Republican position was just.... he is another Bush, I doubt people really went for all that and nominated his ridiculous self. People only started sticking McCain stickers on their SUV's and trucks when it was McCain vs Obama. Before that the back windows were pretty bare. My vehicle still rolls with "Ron Paul 2008" and "Ron Paul: Hope for America" stickers. When the dude dies from old age I am going to stick "Ron Paul is now dead "There is no hope for America". I agree that he should have ran for 3rd party, but I know he knows the inside operation of the ballad counting. Bush vs Gore should have told us enough about the system of voting.

To say that he should have run third party despite the fact that he would have had no chance of winning is idealogical absolutism. Be pragmatic about it. The reason we are ripe for a third party now is because Ron Paul did a great service in getting recognition for an alternative to the two-headed monster that is our current political system.

To many people said, "I like Ron Paul but I don't want to waste my vote." Now I've actually had friends say they wish they had voted for him despite his remote chances of winning. I always counter the logic of picking a lesser candidate for the sake of picking a lesser evil with the statement, "The only reason he doesn't have a chance is because everyone is saying they'd vote for him, but he doesn't have a chance."

Well... I wrote Paul's name in on the ballad. When I say I am going to do something... I do it. Dude was more than a bumper sticker to me, and I still support him. I really did and do not care what percentage my vote counted for. He dropped out, yes, but considering the options I figured writing in a good man (who dropped out of the race) was better than filling in a bubble for one of two men who had and still have no foundation to stand on. As far as him abandoning us...no. He simply shifted his attention to a different outlet to get his word heard. He is still holds rallies. http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
Check it out if you are interested. I signed up for the email and I recieve info where Paul holds his next convention every so often. He did chage the way many people think and feel about this country. Being a supporter opened windows which allowed questioning and interpretation a thing for the future. That is why people cannot stand the man. We are so used to being washed by the government, our raw minds are left to become dried up by the media and propaganda, that a new way of thinking is actually scary. He did impact many people. There are many towns near me that have a "meet up group's" about Paul and the 'Revolution' campaign. I have yet to attend one, but I plan on doing so once exams are finished. I do not want to make him sound like some god...but he is the only one who has preached about changing the government sensibly, in my opinion. I have not figured out what he would benefit from his policies if they were to come into effect. For example, politicians make great money off income tax and he says 'do away with it'. Great money off the war, 'do away with it'...ect. Where are the motives?

AnarchyintheUS , you mention "meetup.com" which is a site that thinks revolution is "offensive" and will ban you for speaking your mind just like they did me. I was a RP delegate, member, and a member of campaign for liberty too. I feel like I was suckered out of my time.

If a 3rd party has no chance, it's time for a violent revolution. I came to that conclusion and voted for the guy who would ruin the country quickest. (Obama) because I'd rather rebuild it from rubble than fix it.

I hear these people trying to "Fix" it. What so they can tax your dope? Screw that. I don't pay tax. I will buy it illegally first or grow it. You don't "fix" a hypocritical system, you burn it down to the ground.

Funnicus, honestly I think about revolution everyday. What would it be like? The movies? An apocalypitc world without water? A deserted desert with dry humanless landscap? Tom Petty running around helping out some mailman? All these questions run through my mind practically daily (except the Tom Petty bit). I am actually glad you mentioned revolution on a deeper scale, Most of us do not want to think of a violent Revolution. We watch and love movies like "Teminator", novels like "Brave New World" and "1984", music that has hidden political messages, but we seem to only feel lazy or unmovtivated to do something. I think sometimes American's forget that this country was created pretty violently. A handful of American's remember the revolution that created this country, but usually only around the 4th of July. Again, I am glad you said somehthing that opened the door to different type of revolution other than protest. I am sure we will never see eye to eye about Ron Paul. I think it would take a lot to turn me against Paul. As I mentioned earlier, I respect and appreciate your opinion. As the fantastic band,Muse, proclaims, "I am waiting patiently.I'll wait for a sign" I feel as if we are all in that waiting state. I wonder if a lowly citizen will have enough motivation and passion to get the ball bouncing (hopefully a peaceful gesture).