Four arrested in plot to bomb New York City temple
source: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/05/20/nyregion/AP-US-Temple-Plot.html?_r=1&hp
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Officials told The Associated Press the arrests came after a long-running undercover operation that began in Newburgh, N.Y.
The names and charges were not immediately known, but authorities said the suspects had planned to detonate a car with plastic explosives outside a temple in the Bronx neighborhood of Riverdale.
The investigation had been under way for about a year.
FBI officials were expected to announce the arrests Wednesday night.
Rep. Peter King of New York, the senior Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, was briefed on the case following the arrests.
"This was a long, well-planned investigation, and it shows how real the threat is from homegrown terrorists," said King.
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AveryMoore
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Ooops!
That latest nasty "Islamist Plot"? The one trumpeted as proof that they's-a-comin-to-git-us?
By some odd coincidence the plot was hatched by a government spy. It appears it was an entrapment. These scams can generate some really hot press, at first, but the most dangerous guy in the bunch? That was the government agent. Everything was his idea.
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/foiled-terrorist-plot-not-so-much
"Robert Dreyfuss in The Nation:
By the now, it's maddeningly familiar. A scary terrorist plot is announced. Then it's revealed that the suspects are a hapless bunch of ne'er-do-wells or run-of-the-mill thugs without the slightest connection to any terrorists at all, never mind to Al Qaeda. Finally, the last piece of the puzzle: the entire plot is revealed to have been cooked up by a scummy government agent-provocateur.
I've seen this movie before. In this case, the alleged perps -- Onta Williams, James Cromitie, David Williams, and Laguerre Payen -- were losers, ex-cons, drug addicts. Al Qaeda they're not. Without the assistance of the agent who entrapped them, they would never have dreamed of committing political violence, nor would they have had the slightest idea about where to acquire plastic explosives or a Stinger missile. That didn't stop prosecutors from acting as if they'd captured Osama bin Laden himself."
The gang that couldn't think straight
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350389.ece
““Did they really need all those men in ninja suits with M16 rifles to arrest four idiots?” wondered Kindlon, a former marine sergeant whose main concern is that real terrorists may be plotting undisturbed while domestic US agencies focus on fantasists. “Somewhere, someone in Al-Qaeda must be laughing.”
Concern about the FBI’s tactics heightened after Salahuddin Mustafa Muhammad, imam at the Masjid al-Ikhlas mosque in Newburgh, revealed that when Hussain first came to the mosque and started talking about jihad (holy war) – apparently to identify radical elements for his FBI handlers – several members immediately concluded that he must be a government agent.
The FBI is known to have infiltrated mosques, and many anti-terrorist experts believe a mosque is the last place a serious Islamic terrorist would plot an attack. “Anyone with any smarts knew to stay away from [Hussain],” said Muhammad. Yet nobody will accuse Cromitie and his cohorts of being smart. “
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AveryMoore
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kennymotown
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The four are just fed up with not having health care, now while in jail they have it. Republican solution "DON'T GET SICK".
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kennymotown
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jh64487
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or, viewed another way. 4 wackjobs convinced themselves the West was attacking islam. When they approached others they were reported to the authorities (by other muslims?). in this instance the authorities actually acted on the information (unlike 9/11). lives were saved.
...remarkable.
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jh64487
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Paratus
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Well, well, well. It seems that the real "homegrown terrorists" are jailhouse muslims not the Ron Paul, pro Constitution, tea party, anti Obama people that Homeland Security said were the real danger. This must be a depressing reality check to Janet and her peers in the administration.
It's time that Janet Napolitano and Obama realizes that the other real danger to this country, besides Obama and his policies, is islam.
Kudos to the FBI in this one. These four morons need to be put up against the wall.
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Paratus
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thewallisgirl
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Government agencies such as the FBI and CIA set these things up so we see them as saving us, when in reality, they are just controlling our thought processes.
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thewallisgirl
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thewallisgirl
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yeah, I don't believe this.
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thewallisgirl
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PatrioticAstronaut
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The F.B.I. gave the insurgents "C-4", that is of course, after surveilling them for nearly 12 months. That seems to me like entrapment. I'm not sure, though. What do you think? I really would like to read other opinions, so please reply. This is the new propaganda, or at least, this is how I believe the system to operate. The corporate industrialist banking elite create "artificial" happenings. Events that are influenced by bureaucratic governmental institutions, like the F.B.I. in this particular matter, and then the "story" is paraded around the various media outlets; as to advance the societal acceptance of "their" globalist causes. These "various media outlets" are owned by the very same groups involved in the widely discussed corporate infiltration of the United States government, relating to, but not completely dependent on the "federal reserve" conspiracies. Now, my opinions are easily formed, and, most of the time, relatively non-thought provoking; so, I would enjoy the opinions of others, in particular, the analytical worldview of other users of "current.com".
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igordy [removed]
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Talk to them and re-educate them? This type of a statement could only come from a naive person, albeit usually good-natured. Sure, it's nice to believe in the ultimate goodness of people, but unfortunatly you'll usually end up disappointed or worse. These people need to be put up against the wall and shot - to make an example for any dumb ones who might follow their example...
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Prijedor
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igordy:
you need to get educated.
thats not how you correct anything, but it is how you make more people turn against you - 2 years ago
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Prijedor
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EdwardNadella
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from what i read today they were snitched on by there friend in there muslim group when he was approached by them. LATER
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JohnA
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Muslims commit an act of terrorism? Get out of here, that like almost never happens. They must be victims of....something. Just give them a good talking to, that should set them straight.
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JohnA
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Fading_Chaos
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Our Government does a great job sometimes, makes me proud of our Country and the people that run it. :)
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Fading_Chaos
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Mikeysfake1
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Interesting.
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Mikeysfake1
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MinneapolisMafia
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http://www.infowars.com/new-york-terror-plot-another-government-provocateured-se...
Well, lets look at ALL angles.
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MinneapolisMafia
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WesternBudda
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before we all get carried away, well dont know the full story or if this was even a cover up, governments allways lie and manipulate its people, you can never no for sure
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WesternBudda
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Prijedor
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Men like these need to be RE-EDUCATED, setting people up is not the answer, education is the key.
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Prijedor
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eriatarka23
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lol dersex has a point here, whats with NY?
As if they don't have enough on their hands already. - 2 years ago
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islek
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eriatarka23:
The plan was probably to score the highest kill ratio per bombing, which would make a densely-populated city an ideal target. It makes my skin crawl to even think someone would consider that... "How can I kill the MOST people?" Awful.
Glad these losers were caught before they had a chance to harm anyone.
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islek
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Conniepae
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Kudos to the FBI!
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Conniepae
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CommonCents
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Anti-Semitic Islamic Jihadists? I am shocked that they would plot to kill Americans and target Jews specifically. I wonder if they attended the "peaceful" pro-Hamas rally in NYC?
Great Police work. Thank god the FBI has watched and infiltrated these Mosques that are breeding extremism. Profiling at its finest.
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CommonCents
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CommonCents:
Easy there fella. No need to be hostile
The men were jailhouse converts to Islam. Police Commissioner Kelly quoted them as saying that they wanted to commit Jihad for Muslim Deaths in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Not only did they want to blow up two synagogues but they wanted to shoot down a plane with a shoulder fired rocket. Sounds like Islamic Jihadists to me.
Maybe you should take your own advice.
Kind regards,
CommoCents
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CommonCents:
lol not everyone who wishes harm on the usa is an islamic jihadist
some people just get tired of the injustice and bullshit that america inflicts on others
regardless, if youre quoting from a different article then more power to you. in this article cited on this thread, there is no mention of the quote from kelly
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mendokusai
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Dersex
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why, i say, why do people hate NYC so much?? its not that bad. if you really want to do something and kill the bad guys, then blow up DC for Christs sake... fuckin retarded terrorists!!Q
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Dersex
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Dersex:
they were targeting jewish temple (jews)
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Prijedor
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Found_Avenue
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Thank God that these men were caught. Unbelievable story - it really touched me, as I have family that lives and worships in Riverdale...
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Found_Avenue
