Maya Angelou calls for marriage equality
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Angelou, who maintains a home in Harlem in New York City, placed three phone calls to state senators in the past week, compelled by her belief that allowing same-sex couples to marry is a matter of fairness.
“To love someone takes a lot of courage,” the 81-year-old said in an interview with the newspaper. “So how much more is one challenged when the love is of the same sex and the laws say, ‘I forbid you from loving this person’?”
Other prominent personalities lobbying the legislature include Paul Tagliabue, the former commissioner of the National Football League, who has a gay son, and Sex and the City star Cynthia Nixon, who is a lesbian.
Despite Angelou’s stature, a call this week did not convince state senator Shirley Huntley, a Democrat from Queens who opposes the marriage-equality bill, to support it.
“If they gave me a million dollars, tax free, I just wouldn’t vote for it,” Huntley told the newspaper.
I admire Angelou's call for equality and is really needed right now. But Im a bit mad at Huntley (actually pissed), since when do civil rights fall down to money? Talk about greed.
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Agreed Ms. Angelou.
She sees the world in a certain perspective, and it makes no sense for some people on this thread to be scorning her experiences. Try reading her poetry for once, and open your eyes to beyond your bubble.
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RCS
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For a look at the viewpoint of those who are opposed to Maya Angelou's support for marriage equality, take a look at CatchAlexandra's Current post in which traditional, Bible-based, religious marriage is explained and defended.
http://current.com/items/90155066_betty-bowers-explains-traditional-marrige.htm
Don't miss this one!
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RCS
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Saladin
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Dear any anti-gay marriage fucktards.
14th amendment, equal protection clause.
You lose, buh bye. End of discussion.
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Saladin
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mrblahblah
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Saladin:
You are so very correct!! Equal protection for all of us Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Trans Gender, Zoosexual, Pedosexual, Objectsexual we are all in this fight together!!
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mrblahblah
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EmperorThan
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What an attention whore. Man if I ever become famous I'm going to chime in about every single popular issue. Everyone will be like "Hey he's right!" or "Hey he's wrong!" or "Hey! Who the fuck is he to tell me!..."
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EmperorThan:
It looks like you didn't wait to be famous. Look in the mirror.
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unclecharlie
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Marriage was always a sacred covenant between man and woman- to procreate and create children. No longer the case- slippery slope here- Besides, Angelou- who really gives a damn what that old dried up bag really thinks? www.NBRA.info
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unclecharlie
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unclecharlie:
It was? Have you heard of polygamy? Marriage was often about ownership rights, one's wife being considered the husband's property.
And obviously a lot of people care what she thinks, hence the attention to her comments. Your opinion, however...
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unclecharlie:
i think this remark was uncalled for...You may not like her but, she's more important, well known, richer. more educated, and more respected than you ever will be...
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lezsttat
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mrblahblah
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NickerBocker09 your comments directed toward me and my kind (zoo sexual) were very judgmental, uniformed, hurtful and intolerant. First regarding pedosexuals, you stated a boy does not have consent because he is underage. And who is it that determines he is under age? The same government that says gays and lesbians should not be allowed to marry. If the government is wrong on the marry issue, maybe they are also wrong with the age of consent issue. I'm glad you agree that it is possible for a human to love a animal or an object (see object sexuals www.objectum-sexuality.org/) and I assure you that the animals and objects that we fall in love with do show us love back. It is always mutual you just have to understand their method of communication. I know you are ignorant and uneducated regarding our issues but if you get a chance to know us, you will see we are just like any other minority group fighting for the right to be fully accepted into society. As I stated before we support GLBT rights, once you are fully accepted that gets us one step closer to our acceptance. Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Zoosexual, Pedosexual, Objectsexual we are all in this fight together and together we will defeat oppressive government laws that discriminate against us!!
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mrblahblah:
I realize that this is a red herring/troll post, but out of curiosity, how is it that an animal or object consents to a mutual sexual relationship? Or a child for that matter?
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mrblahblah:
heh... and if the objects don't want the love and attention, how do they cry "rape?"
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lezsttat
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It's nice to see a woman of her importance and standing take a such a positive stance on such and important issue..
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lezsttat
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jh64487
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If you wanna deny someone equal rights because they don't conform to your religious ideals than you can happily trot over to saudi arabia.
But that's not what america was founded on, ...so get the hell out.
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jh64487:
Here! Here! I so agree with you!!
People are such control freaks!
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jh64487:
Yes...and? Isnt that a good thing? If you are being sarcastic then your wrong. I do believe hole heatedly in tolerance, magnanimous and being democratic. Even of people who oppose my opinion. Kisses back ;)
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jh64487:
you have a right to be here and express your opinon. we also have the right to ask you to shut up. freedom of speach is fun.
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jh64487:
It's so nice to see someone like you who's such a strong proponent of diversity.....
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Good for Maya Angelou. It's nice to see that she is taking a strong stand for full rights for all Americans.
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myblahblah you are as ignorant as you always are. First of all, a boy doesnt have consent because he is underaged and cant fully make decisions like that. Also an ostrich is an animal and cannot prove it loves you and give consent. Pedophilia is seperate from homosexuality, bisexuality, and heterosexuality if you ever cared to try and understand shit in this world.
Also it is very doubtful a human would be born to love a specific bird or any bird but it is possible. While humans are born to love another human, sometimes the same sex. So go ahead and love if the animal loves you (dont know how ull prove it). But its a completely different subject so fuck off.
Hard to believe I even bothered responding to your stupidity.
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No one should discriminate for whatever floats someone else's boat... I am not against gays, but I sure as hell am not for them...
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http://www.smbc-comics.com/
Orange: Average wealth of anti-gay groups.
Purple: Average wealth of pro-gay groups.
green: Average cost of saline solution. - 2 years ago
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mrblahblah
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Gay, Lesbian, Bi and Trans gender people deserve to have the same rights as all Americans. I agree with fun_size "that love is not something you choose it just happens". 6 months ago I fell in love with a beautiful ostrich and I believe that love has no color, race, gender or species boundaries. Some individuals think that I'm strange but I can't help who or what I fell in love with, I was born this way. And what about the members of NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association)
don't they have rights. I pay taxes and I love my ostrich why can't we marry like everyone else? Fight for your rights GLBT we are in this together!! - 2 years ago
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mrblahblah:
your sarcasm is a bit evident darling. and the reason LGBT love is different then loving and ostrich or raping a child. for one neither an ostrich nor a child has the ability to give consent, unless you've managed to create not only a way to understand ostrach speech AND give it a humans mental capicity. and once again, STOP COMPAIRING THE LGBT COMUNITY TO SOMETHING AS DISTURBING AS NAMBLA! Statisticly speaking more heterosexuals rape children than homosexuals
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Ares
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mrblahblah:
His point is still valid. Would it have sounded better for him to claim he was in love with a dolphin, monkey, or any other semi-intelligent animal capable of providing consent?
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Ares
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timetide
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mrblahblah:
How could any animal provide consent? Again, animals do not have human mental abilites, even the smartest one. his point is not valid. logicly speaking even if an animal does have a human mind how could it communicate human consesnt?
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mrblahblah:
If you're really making that argument, then the notion that homosexuality present in animals indicates that being gay is natural is completely invalid.
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Maya is right . Recall the days when the church was not friendly with marriage at all because it put people in danger of placing the spouse, before god . If your religion is so right , trust that your children will chose it of their own free will , when they reach the age of reason . Without any childhood indoctrination . Because their parents and religious leaders are such shinning examples of decency , of course .
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Davidandgoliath. Why do you care if someone else weds? Its not like you're right is being taken a way, and if you say that gays can love eachother already then how will morality be hindered if marriage is recognized?
Stop saying it is a christian institution because it is definitely not! People have been marrying for thousands of years (more than 2 thousand), you think Jews and Muslims don't wed?
And by the way, this isnt about religions, this is about government, seperation of church and state you fuckschmuck.
Marriage isnt about making babies, its about legally recognizing two people's love for eachother and various rights as a married couple. No where in the law does it say you are lawfully wedded to overpopulate the world.
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NickerBocker09:
don't forget that business about being able to know what's going on with your loved one if (s)he's in the hospital, maybe / maybe not on his/her deathbed, maybe / maybe not doing fine.
but wait. they have love and that's fine, so i guess they don't need to know how their loved ones are doing if they're in the hospital. love is just enough. forget the whole marriage thing. no need for anyone to marry. just a whole bunch of spam. (spam, because it sounds more fun than baloney.)
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DavidandGoliath
The shining example of Christian "tolerance" and "acceptance". What a beautiful religion.
Love is not something that you choose, it just happens. Marriage is NOT a religious practice as people have been "bonded" with each other since the rise of our species.
Let people love who they will and give homosexual couples the same rights and privileges afforded to heterosexual couples. Its called EQUALITY.
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Davidandgoliath:
for goodness sake dng.
Christianity DID NOT INVENT marriage. Christianity has only been around for || so long. There have been several other religions existing prior to Christianity which also include marriage.
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Davidandgoliath
First of all what you said it is not a fact, it is is deranged thought, cause it can't even be called an idea. How about we take away your right to breathe and throw you in a gas chamber you schmuck, but I guess that pushing for your survival would be pointless too. Hitler would have been a good friend of yours. I
t is not a political ploy; it is an issue that had to be addressed now. I am a straight man and gay couples want the same rights. After all they pay taxes, vote and live under the flag of a country that goes to war for "freedom". Where's the irony in that right? You probably get on your knees, knee pads and all when your wife is not around. - 2 years ago
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jam4life:
oh come on Chetdiva if you read the header it says davidandgoliath the comment was for him, he's two postings up; if anything you agree with me...it's all right
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Davidandgoliath:
>>It is a political ploy and nothing else.
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Davidandgoliath:
So marriages where the couple intends to procreate should be legal, and the rest should be dissolved, right?
Your prejudice is showing... better tuck it in.
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Davidandgoliath:
First of all what you said it is not a fact, it is is deranged thought, cause it can't even be called an idea. How about we take away your right to breathe and throw you in a gas chamber you schmuck, but I guess that pushing for your survival would be pointless too. Hitler would have been a good friend of yours. I
t is not a political ploy; it is an issue that had to be addressed now. I am a straight man and gay couples want the same rights. After all they pay taxes, vote and live under the flag of a country that goes to war for "freedom". Where's the irony in that right? You probably get on your knees, knee pads and all when your wife is not around. - 2 years ago
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Davidandgoliath:
Obviously you do not know your history very well. IN fact marriage was not "invented" as you call it. It existed before we had even evolved into our current human state. It wasn't until humans invented a language that we gave it a name. And it was not monotheistics called it marriage first, it was the polytheistics that created the name of marriage, in almost every known culture in the world. The reason everybody associates it with christians is because they beat the living H#$l out of everyone till they agreed with them.
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Davidandgoliath:
care to provide some proof for the stuff you're saying?
btw, my polytheistic religion also has marriage. your religion didnt invent it. get over it.
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Way to go hun. I really appreciate hearing more public figures express their opinion on this subject. (Especially when I agree with their view :P ).
I don't know how long this will get played out in the states but I do think this issue will finally come to resolution on the national level.
Hopefully voices like hers get heard by more people. - 2 years ago
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Snuff, if you believe in marriage equality, start calling it "our" fight. I'm not gay, but I consider this to be my fight, our fight. My dad was one of the million whites who was at MLK's big rally, and he considered the fight for equality to be his fight, too. Let's all proudly consider this to be OUR fight.
Regarding the story...
Good. Maybe she's someone Obama will listen to. He has to take notice of our former poet laureate, and one of the most culturally influential African-American women living today.PLEASE, Obama. I know you're just waiting for the right time to fight this fight, but PLEASE get it fought in your first term!
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It's great to see Angelou, an inspiring and prominent African American voice, speaking out for marriage equality.
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all fights for equality have been long and often time brutal. just don't give up your fight.
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Love and attraction of the same sex or not, is natural and is a human feeling and emotion. Marriage and Religion are non-natural, they were implemented by humans to build society status(all bullshit to oppress people). I believe people should be free to be attracted, fall in love and marry each other. Regardless of color, sex or nationality. It's time we progress as humans the natural way, god is infinite, god is love, god doesn't punish. Love freely, risk life and you will prevail....
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Way to go Maya. More old people should use their age and stature to advance civil rights. Sometimes change really does help people. I am always impressed and inspired by the courage and empathy it shows to bring cross-generational support and empathy to a cause Maya will no doubt never benefit from directly. Again, way to go Miss Angelou.
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I voted for it because I fucking agree with Ms. Angelou. I also voted for it for free, so suck on that, losers.
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yesindeed:
I stopped reading here: "Homosexuals don't need 'marriage' because they are not committed to their 'partner' for very long, if at all."
because it was stupid of you to say that. Have you seen how many straight divorces there are? Most people I know have divorced parents, and yes, they are straight. Whereas a friend of mine has gay parents who have been together for years, and my uncle has been with his partner for even longer, what with them being in their 60's. Gay people aren't the only people to have open relationships either, and many of them. Straight people do the same shit. There is no difference.
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Davidandgoliath:
We tend to learn and remember better when we do the research ourselves.
Homosexuals are free to live as they choose. What they shouldn't do, either gay or straight, is redefine marriage. There is a reason a marriage means a husband and wife. These unions are really special and distinct. Homosexuals don't need "marriage" because they are not committed to their "partner" for very long, if at all.
They attack the title "marriage" to legitimize their lifestyle; because in a secular society, without a moral authority, where do you go for the standards of right and wrong, good or bad? You go to law, because to homosexuals "legal equals moral."
By their logic, if the law says it's legal, then morality or objective reasoning is not an issue -- It's legal, and therefore OK.A study called "Male and Female Homosexuality" by M. Saghir and E. Robins found the average live-in homosexual relationship (not the average of all homosexual relationships, just the ones that were live-in) was between 2-3 years.(Imagine how low the average would have been if the study counted ALL homosexual relationships)
A study called "Male Homosexuality" found that few male homosexual relationships last longer than two years, with many men reporting HUNDREDS of lifetime partners.
University of Chicago sociologist Edward Laumann said in "The Sexual Organization of the City" that metropolitan homosexuals typically move through relationships of less than 6 months.
A study of homosexual men in the Netherlands (a very liberal and accepting country where homosexual "marriage" has been legalized) published in the journal "AIDS" found the average length of relationship was 1.5 years.
"Homosexual Marriage: A Social Science View" found a dissolution rate among homosexuals in Sweden (a very liberal and accepting country where homosexual "marriage" has been legalized) 50% higher than for heterosexuals. The lesbian rate of dissolution was double that of male homosexuals.
According to "The Gay Report," 38% said the longest relationship (monogamy was not specified either way) they had ever had did not last longer than a year. The study found the average relationship length for lesbians was 38 months. "Homosexual Marriage: A Social Science View" found similar results.
"The Male Couple" cites a study of 156 homosexual males in relationships lasting 1-37 years. Only 4% had totally exclusive sexual relationships...and all of these had been together less than 5 years
The same study as one cited above giving homosexual dissolution rates (Homosexual Marriage: A Social Science View) reported the average length of heterosexual marriages in the United states as 25 years.
Those are just a few statistics. There are plenty more out there for the inquiring mind to find...
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Davidandgoliath:
and every single report you have just listed was rejected by the scientific community for using faulty statistical models. The only group of people to accept those statistics were the same group of people who accept the idea of creatinism.
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